17:01:51 <SumitNaiksatam> #startmeeting Networking Advanced Services 17:01:52 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Dec 9 17:01:51 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:01:54 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:01:56 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'networking_advanced_services' 17:02:06 <sbalukoff> +1 to short meeting 17:02:14 <johnsom> o/ 17:02:26 <kobis> hi 17:02:33 <SumitNaiksatam> #info SPD has passed, next milestone in terms of specs is dec 15th 17:02:41 <SumitNaiksatam> #info SAD is 12-15-2014 17:02:45 <SridarK> Hi 17:02:47 <SumitNaiksatam> #info Kilo-1 is 12-18-2014 17:02:51 <mestery> FYI: We've already started moving lots of specs out of Kilo 17:02:53 <mestery> See my email to the list 17:03:14 <SumitNaiksatam> mestery: yes, thanks for that update 17:03:19 <mestery> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron-drivers 17:03:20 <SumitNaiksatam> saw that email 17:03:27 <mestery> See the bottom there for the reasoning we're using. 17:03:39 <mestery> A lot of the removals were around plugin decomposition, or lack of community consensus. 17:03:48 <SumitNaiksatam> mestery: okay 17:03:56 <SumitNaiksatam> i havent checked the latest list 17:04:03 <SumitNaiksatam> what got booted out 17:04:16 <SumitNaiksatam> but i guess we can bring any concerns in the open discussion 17:04:27 <SumitNaiksatam> #topic Advanced services’ split 17:04:39 <dougwig> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/services_split 17:04:46 <SumitNaiksatam> dougwig: thanks 17:04:50 <dougwig> status is in there, as well as a few separable tasks that people can help with. 17:05:01 <mestery> We need mindless coders soon 17:05:02 <mestery> ;) 17:05:09 <SumitNaiksatam> mestery: :-) 17:05:42 <SumitNaiksatam> i thought we could use today’s meeting just to quickly sync up on this activity and see how we can get people to help out with the pending tasks 17:05:57 <SumitNaiksatam> dougwig: nice to have this list in that context 17:06:25 <SumitNaiksatam> dougwig: are the items in the order of priority on the etherpad? 17:06:44 <SumitNaiksatam> some of these things need to go in lock-step i guess 17:06:53 <dougwig> SumitNaiksatam: and pc_m: blogan is working on the lbaas alembic chains. Once he's got that sorted out, we'll need someone to *quickly* do the same for vpn/fw, as the db stuff is gating most of the test fixing. 17:07:14 <mestery> We need this to land first https://review.openstack.org/140225 17:07:20 <mestery> It's in the merge queue 17:07:27 <mestery> Then we need this to land: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140164 17:07:42 <mestery> This involves watching these, working with infra and QA to get them merged 17:07:44 <dougwig> the second disables advanced services tempest testing. 17:07:45 <mestery> Lots of IRC time 17:07:54 <SumitNaiksatam> mestery: the first one seems to have passed jenkins 17:07:55 <blogan> mestery: im pretty mindless today, so im your man 17:08:14 <mestery> SumitNaiksatam: It's in the merge queue now, do you use http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ to watch these things? 17:08:18 <mestery> blogan: lol 17:09:11 <mestery> Anyways, once these land ,we can land this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139901/ 17:09:24 <mestery> Though we need to look at garyk's question there yet 17:09:54 <blogan> indeed 17:09:55 <mestery> So that's where things are at a high level here. 17:10:01 <mestery> Thanks to dougwig for doing most of hte legwork here. 17:10:19 <mestery> dougwig is doing some awesome stuff here. 17:10:20 <blogan> dougwig i don't care what mestery says about you, you're alright 17:10:29 <mestery> blogan: rofl 17:10:48 <dougwig> sigh. :) 17:11:03 <sbalukoff> haha 17:11:28 <SumitNaiksatam> dougwig: on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140164 is mat treinish looking at it? 17:11:36 <dougwig> anyone have questions? if you want to take on a task, please note it on the etherpad or ping me 17:11:55 <xgerman> I am stull looking for something simple :-) 17:11:59 <dougwig> that one needs a 'recheck' once the skip review merges. 17:12:19 <blogan> why did i have to pick the one that everythign depends on 17:12:22 <dougwig> xgerman: #1, #2, or #4 17:12:54 <xgerman> #1 it is 17:12:58 <dougwig> SumitNaiksatam: it's on infra's radar, as soon as the other change merges and we get it's gate passing. 17:13:08 <SumitNaiksatam> dougwig: ok great 17:13:17 <SumitNaiksatam> dougwig: on the query: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+file:%255E.*/db/firewall/.*+OR+status:open+project:openstack/neutron+file:%255E.*/db/vpn/.*+OR+status:open+project:openstack/neutron+file:%255E.*/db/loadbalancer/.,n,z 17:13:32 <SumitNaiksatam> it seems to be returning non-split related patches as well 17:13:39 <dougwig> that was for mestery, to temporarily -2 all services code during the split. 17:13:47 <mestery> ack 17:13:53 <dougwig> yes, a completely clean query is darn near impossible. it's just kinda close. 17:13:59 <dougwig> thanks to anteaya for creating that. 17:14:27 <SumitNaiksatam> dougwig: ah ok 17:14:50 <anteaya> o/ 17:15:00 <mestery> Did you guys read the emails on all of this to list? 17:15:10 <mestery> We've sent lots of information here, perhaps it all wasn't clear. 17:15:38 <SumitNaiksatam> blogan: do you have a WIP patch for the alembic migrations? 17:16:02 <dougwig> SumitNaiksatam: he just started a few minutes ago. he's awesome, but i expect he needs a few. :) 17:16:12 <mestery> SumitNaiksatam: Are you planning to review that patch when blogan is done? 17:16:37 <SumitNaiksatam> dougwig, mestery: ah okay, i was asking if we needed to start doing this in parallel for fwaas and vpnaas as well 17:16:55 <blogan> SumitNaiksatam: what dougwig said, minus the awesome part 17:17:01 <dougwig> check with blogan on when more hands will help there. 17:17:07 <SumitNaiksatam> i dont want to duplicate efforts, but we can start in parallel if blogan is just getting started 17:17:32 <blogan> SumitNaiksatam: you can definitely start setting up the alembic structure, that should take a few seconds 17:17:38 <SumitNaiksatam> mestery: yes happy to review 17:17:40 <blogan> for fwaas and vpnaas 17:17:59 <blogan> bc im doing it for lbaas right now, after that itll just be repeat 17:18:11 <mestery> good idea blogan 17:18:28 <SumitNaiksatam> so i guess, based on the number of folks from the lbaas team here, i think the lbaas action items are covered 17:18:49 <blogan> well i was going to do do this for fwaas and vpnaas as well 17:18:56 <xgerman> awesome 17:19:00 <blogan> but since i dont have the domain knowledge i'd need yalls help on that 17:19:01 <SumitNaiksatam> blogan: ah okay 17:19:12 * mestery wonders why we're covering LBAAS items in this meeting when the LBAAS meeting just happened 17:19:15 <mestery> I guess people really like meetings? 17:19:44 <blogan> im not a manager, so i dont like meetings 17:19:54 <SumitNaiksatam> are the items on the vpnaas side of things covered? 17:20:08 <sbalukoff> Mentioning the term 'lbaas' doesn't intrinsically mean we're actually discussing said items. XD 17:20:26 <xgerman> we are just the most awesome :-) 17:20:37 <SumitNaiksatam> mestery: we are not just covering lbaas items, that was the first thing i was checking on 17:20:39 <sballe> Everybody like LBaaS :-) 17:20:46 <dougwig> alright, let's pull back and focus here. 17:20:47 <sbalukoff> We're also the biggest jerks. 17:20:50 <mestery> sballe: ++ 17:20:57 <mestery> sbalukoff: rofl 17:21:01 <SumitNaiksatam> mestery: next i wanted to check if the pending items had owners on the fwaas and vpnaas side as well 17:21:34 <SumitNaiksatam> mestery: if you think the coordination is not required is not required at this stage, i guess we can move on 17:21:52 <dougwig> we don't have individuals identified for fixing unit tests for each repo, though that will need to wait for the alembic stuff. likely the same person will do all of the tempest re-enabling/jobs. 17:21:53 <mestery> I think we're doing it on the etherpad and in the various channels 17:21:58 <dougwig> mestery: +1 17:22:01 <mestery> And in email 17:22:35 <SumitNaiksatam> i guess pcm is not here for the vpnaas side of things 17:23:11 <dougwig> he's here in person. :) 17:23:29 <mestery> He's actually working right now as well :) 17:23:31 <dougwig> currently talking with the l3 refactor guys, but i could throw my red bull and hit him. 17:23:36 <mestery> coding and discussing refactoring in the room I believe 17:23:38 <mestery> rofl 17:23:38 <SumitNaiksatam> mestery: so are we 17:23:39 <SridarK> dougwig: SumitNaiksatam: mestery: i can take a swag on the UT stuff for FWaaS or anything else so pls feel free to throw me into the fire. I am in another mtg now and hard to keep up 17:23:57 <dougwig> SridarK: ok, we'll keep you posted once the alembic stuff goes in. 17:24:06 <SridarK> dougwig: cool 17:24:18 <SumitNaiksatam> #topic Open Discussion 17:24:37 <SumitNaiksatam> so seems like we are covered on the split discussion between the various modes of communication 17:24:45 <SumitNaiksatam> anything else we want to discuss today? 17:24:53 <johnsom> What is the status of the meet up? 17:25:19 <blogan> johnsom: lbaas meetup? 17:25:21 <SumitNaiksatam> johnsom: i would imagine that we get done with the split mechanics first 17:25:37 <johnsom> No, advanced services kilo midcycle 17:25:56 <mestery> johnsom: What do you want to accomplish at that meetup? 17:26:02 <mestery> The work to do the split will be done this week. 17:26:06 <blogan> i assumed there wouldn't be one with each service splitting up into its own project, however we can discuss after 17:26:12 <mestery> I'm unclear what the objective for an advanced services meetup would bve 17:26:19 <mestery> It's not needed from my perspective 17:26:26 <blogan> +1 17:26:40 <johnsom> That is kind of my question, are we still having it, what is the topic, etc. 17:26:54 * mestery notes dougwig said he's +1 to my idea too but he's eating a muffin at the moment 17:26:54 <mestery> ;) 17:26:58 <mestery> johnsom: No 17:27:17 <xgerman> mmh - muffins 17:27:21 <mestery> lol 17:27:35 <johnsom> Ok, thanks! 17:27:44 <mestery> johnsom: Sure! 17:27:54 <SumitNaiksatam> anything else folks for today? 17:28:01 <SumitNaiksatam> else back to the split! 17:28:25 <SumitNaiksatam> alright thanks all! 17:28:28 <SumitNaiksatam> #endmeeting