14:00:07 #startmeeting networking 14:00:07 Meeting started Tue Feb 13 14:00:07 2024 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is haleyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:07 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00:07 The meeting name has been set to 'networking' 14:00:08 Ping list: bcafarel, elvira, frickler, mlavalle, mtomaska, obondarev, slaweq, tobias-urdin, ykarel, lajoskatona, jlibosva, averdagu, amotoki 14:00:09 \o 14:00:17 o/ 14:00:18 hi 14:00:20 o/ 14:00:21 o/ 14:00:24 o/ 14:00:44 o/ 14:01:28 hi everyone, lets get started 14:01:31 #topic announcements 14:01:47 #link https://releases.openstack.org/caracal/schedule.html 14:01:54 o/ 14:02:22 we are getting late in C-3 cycle 14:02:45 and i hope everyone saw thierry's email about the release countdown 14:02:49 #link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/AJPHUQGBT7BET2CR5Z7MXI7GN4RE7TCB/ 14:02:58 Oslo libraries are entering feature freeze next week, February 15, 2024 14:03:05 General libraries (except client libraries) need to have their last feature release before Non-client library freeze (February 22, 2024) 14:03:12 Client libraries (think python-*client libraries) need to have their last feature release before Client library freeze (February 29, 2024) 14:03:21 Feb 26th-Mar 1st is C-3 milestone / feature freeze / requirements freeze 14:03:38 so what this means is we should land any neutron-lib changes this week 14:03:40 hello (late) 14:04:41 o/ 14:05:05 #link https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/neutron-lib+status:open 14:05:33 so please update and/or ask for reviews on anything that's ready there ^^ 14:06:36 i think that was the main thing for announcements, does anyone have more? 14:06:52 perhaps the unmaintained thing 14:07:02 so unmaintained/yoga is out there 14:07:35 lajoskatona: right, go ahead 14:07:37 thigs are broken mostly (for example grenade for zed and 2023.1) 14:08:19 for that ralonsoh opened a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2052915 I suppose there will be more 14:09:05 another thing is that at the moment any change landing on unmaintained/yoga is not visible on irc, for that we have to agree to have the notification here in #neutron channel 14:09:34 and the neutron cores do not have +2 either 14:09:39 and another thing is that there is "global" unmaintained group for merging patches on unmaintained branches 14:09:42 yes exactly 14:10:14 the intention was for "some group" to propose owning these unmaintained branches, and step-up to get superpowers 14:10:21 I added this topic in the on-demand section 14:10:25 perhaps slaweq have some more background on this but if I understand well we can have a neutron-unmaintaned group or similar and than the global group will not care about these patches 14:10:36 but perhaps I misunderstood the policy 14:11:05 ralonsoh: ok, sorry I haevnt checked the agenda before (palm-face....) 14:11:24 we can create a new groups 14:11:27 example: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/902796 14:11:35 +1 14:11:45 and we can also add the patches events to our channel 14:11:46 I am happy to be in it 14:11:50 https://opendev.org/openstack/project-config/src/branch/master/gerritbot/channels.yaml#L927-L929 14:12:05 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/908606 14:12:13 I prepared the notification patch 14:12:30 +1 to the notification 14:12:49 I'll send a patch to create the um neutron group 14:13:01 so basically I just wanted to make it visible for everybody that this new policy changes our ways of working 14:13:35 and the default option is that we do not care about unmaintained branches 14:13:41 ralonsoh: thanks 14:13:52 please vote in https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/908606 14:14:52 that's it from me for this topic 14:14:58 so is the consensus that we care about unmaintained branches? i.e. we want to keep them working, etc? 14:15:18 i was thinking about the impact to me downstream but didn't know about rhat, etc 14:15:30 well, at least we want to be able to merge patches 14:15:38 to fix possible issues 14:15:50 that doesn't mean we are going to care them as new ones 14:15:59 actually we are removing support from n-t-p 14:16:33 the point is if we (neutron cores) don't take care of them, probably nobody will 14:16:38 right, the testing will be the hard part 14:16:55 agree with ralonsoh 14:17:10 yes I am sure nobody will care :-) 14:17:14 I don't see hordes of people coming to help 14:17:54 i only see people wanting to propose patches, but maybe don't have the expertise to maintain the branch (yet) 14:18:55 +1 being able to merge patches if we ever get some will be useful, but not actually maintaining them (so we can mostly skip them in CI meeting for example?) 14:19:19 and i agree it would be good to keep alive, but maybe we have to think about what we merge? like high priority or above, if we are treating it like an lts branch 14:19:27 good point 14:21:27 and i guess if it comes to it, we can add others to the "neutron-unmaintained-core" group that can help 14:21:59 * haleyb is just guessing on the name there based on the ironic change 14:22:26 yes any volunteers can come and do it :-) 14:23:00 like bcafarel does today with stable 14:23:52 so we should probably add something to the neutron docs on our policy, or at least a rough outline 14:24:21 maybe a recruitment session during the PTG? 14:24:26 #action haleyb to propose a doc update on unmaintained branch 14:24:27 hmm, good idea 14:24:46 we can send a message to the ML advertising it 14:24:50 mlavalle: there will be a line out the door! :) 14:24:56 and see how many people show up 14:25:20 at least we gauge the level of interest 14:25:36 i will float this downstream here, it might actually help us 14:25:36 the result of the experiment might be no interest whatsoever 14:25:59 and sorry, my sarcasm meter is always on high 14:26:00 but we might be pleasently surprised 14:26:22 haleyb: that's perfectly fine. just proposing ideas 14:26:36 I know you New Englanders 14:26:52 yup, and i'm too old to change 14:27:17 :-) 14:27:36 ;-) 14:28:54 great, so everyone look at the project-config change mentioned and the core group review when it's out 14:29:51 anything else on this topic? we still have on-demand later 14:30:24 I finished, thanks for the attention 14:30:39 ok, moving on 14:30:51 and thanks lajoskatona for bringing it up 14:30:56 #topic bugs 14:31:08 ralonsoh was the deputy last week 14:31:12 #link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/4IU5JHBWEJDAARMY5Z7QX2FZX3RSHHO5/ 14:31:53 there were some un-owned bugs we can go through 14:32:10 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2052821 14:32:17 [OVN] Pin a Logical_Router to a chassis when the external network is tunnelled 14:32:21 no no sorry 14:32:24 that one is mine 14:32:43 (I already have a patch) 14:33:14 ralonsoh: ack, just assigned 14:33:42 next one 14:33:46 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2052681 14:33:51 Many stale neutron-keepalived-state-change processes left after upgrade to native pyroute2 state-change 14:34:15 liu filed this, i had a follow-up if he would fix it as there is not much info there 14:34:59 that's weird: the "ip -o monitor" is a process dependant on the keepalived-state-change service 14:35:15 if the parent one is stopped, the child processes should too 14:35:22 unless you kill the parent process 14:36:04 in other words: it doesn't matter if you upgrade or not the k-s-c code or not 14:36:16 if you kill it, the monitor will stay there 14:37:24 ralonsoh: can you add those comments to the bug? it is only one sentence at the moment 14:37:50 sure and I'll test it too in an old environment before 14:38:41 great, moving on to next one 14:38:46 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2052508 14:38:54 [doc][troubleshooting] how to enable ovs vswitchd debug logs 14:39:20 o/ 14:39:31 ykarel: can i assign this to you? i see there is already a functional patch 14:39:39 yes sure 14:40:19 great 14:40:56 i think all the other bugs have owners and/or patches, any someone needs to discuss? 14:41:03 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2052937 14:41:23 slaweq: Bence marked it invalid 14:41:25 :) 14:41:41 I hope it can be configured 14:41:43 yeah, I was going to say that. Please check Bence's comment 14:41:46 bbezak I will still need to check it 14:42:03 and the default may be right as it is 14:42:22 of course it can be customized but from quick look default value for this API req may not be correct 14:42:28 I think service role user should be able to do it with default policy 14:42:41 as in kolla-ansible we're using default policies by design 14:43:05 and probably calls to port['binding:profile'] should be for service user available by default 14:43:14 but I had no chance to check it really yet 14:43:38 I changed it back to alive then :-) 14:43:51 thx rubasov :) 14:43:58 cool, thx 14:44:23 I assigned it to myself and should have time for it on Thursday morning probably 14:44:33 lovely, thank you rubasov slaweq 14:44:41 thanks slaweq 14:45:14 great, just some bug housekeeping if there is nothing else 14:45:18 Current bug count this week: 770, up 11 from last week 14:45:37 i see today it's down a few, so good job on fixing things 14:45:57 This week rubasov is the bug deputy, next week will be lucasgomes 14:46:07 on it 14:46:32 and i see rubasov has been busy (thanks!) 14:46:51 i don't see lucas here 14:47:23 he is on pto today, will be back tomorrow 14:47:55 ykarel: ack, i'll ping him later this week to make sure he can be deputy 14:47:56 i will remind him once he is back 14:48:00 +1 14:48:19 topic #specs 14:48:24 #link https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack%252Fneutron-specs+status:open 14:48:47 i see the OVN I-C spec has merged, and i believe i've seen one patch 14:50:03 the other two remaining just need some more +2's, else we'll have to move to next cycle directory 14:50:54 #topic community_goals 14:51:06 #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/horizon/+/891205 14:51:47 lajoskatona: it's still fighting you 14:51:52 The issue which I found is that I an't use SDK and keystoneauth to have https 14:52:48 yes, I tried to have some help on sdk channel but perhaps I have to find directly some guys who has deeper keystoenauth and SDK background 14:53:18 that's where I am at the moment 14:53:52 I can't create a keystoneauth session and an SDK client from that that workswell with https endpoints 14:54:18 the terrible is that it appears on;y if pagination is on, so ..... 14:54:19 lajoskatona: ack, it has not been easy :( 14:54:29 there isn't an existing session it can use? 14:55:12 no this is the first SDK usage in horizon, only the old python-xclients are there 14:56:36 hopefully you figure it out 14:56:43 #topic on_demand 14:57:02 we are almost out of time, any on-demand topics? 14:57:07 no, thanks 14:57:18 and there is the ci meeting in a few minutes, irc this time i believe 14:57:23 I think we discussed what ralonsoh proposed 14:57:27 already 14:57:29 yeap CI meeting in 3 minutes :), over irc today 14:58:02 ack 14:58:04 ok, thanks everyone for attending, review away! 14:58:09 #endmeeting