14:00:57 #startmeeting networking 14:01:01 Meeting started Tue Feb 28 14:00:57 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kevinbenton. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:01:02 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:01:05 The meeting name has been set to 'networking' 14:01:07 o/ 14:01:09 o/ 14:01:10 o/ 14:01:11 o/ 14:01:21 hi 14:01:53 #topic announcments 14:01:56 hi 14:02:18 I sent out an email last night with a big summary of things that were covered at the PTG 14:02:26 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-February/113032.html 14:02:48 that's huge, wow. 14:02:48 Take some time to look over it 14:03:05 kevinbenton: thanks for doing that 14:03:15 If there were any topics I completely forgot, please reply to that email with a brief summary 14:03:39 but if there is anything you want to expand on or have a discussion about, please start a new email thread with a different subject 14:03:40 late o/ 14:03:49 so it doesn't become the Neutron development megathread 14:03:54 kevinbenton: Thanks, this is great 14:04:06 o/ 14:04:23 ++ 14:04:47 This announcement is from the last meeting, but a quick reminder that the Pike spec repository is open 14:05:01 so if you had any specs for Ocata, retarget them to Pike 14:05:15 and propose new specs under that folder 14:05:47 o/ 14:06:00 If you had any features that were targeting Ocata, please review the postmortem patch from armax 14:06:06 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425990/ 14:06:37 This applies to all stadium projects IIRC 14:07:23 Does anyone have any questions about the above or have any other announcements to make? 14:07:46 kevinbenton: Do you intend to keep the postmortems going for future releases? Personally I think they're great. 14:07:59 ++ 14:08:12 john-davidge: yeah, i'll try to keep that tradition up 14:08:20 john-davidge: i may conscript armax to help 14:08:26 kevinbenton: :) 14:09:11 #topic Bugs 14:09:34 i see from the wiki electrocucaracha was bug deputy last 14:09:48 but he's not online 14:10:12 does anyone have any bugs that need discussion with the wider team? 14:10:48 I would like to remind folks that if you cannot join, you should send a report as per https://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/bugs.html#neutron-bug-deputy 14:10:53 I mean, if you are a bug deputy :) 14:11:32 do we have deputies for next weeks? 14:11:33 speaking of which, does anyone want to volunteer to be bug deputy this week? 14:12:50 i can do it 14:13:05 #info kevinbenton for bug deputy week of feb 28th 14:14:02 thanks kevinbenton 14:14:19 any volunteers now for next week? 14:14:41 kevinbenton: I can do next week 14:14:42 hi 14:14:49 dasanind: thanks 14:15:25 #info dasanind for bug deputy week of mar 6th 14:16:24 #topic gate issues 14:16:38 ihrachys: quick update since we have a separate meeting, any big blockers we need to be aware of? 14:17:08 we had breakages due to devstack-gate local.conf logic on Fri but those are contained for the most part in neutron repo 14:17:30 it also broke some stadium repos like fwaas (fix should be in for master, maybe backport needed) 14:17:55 ack 14:17:56 I advise stadium project owners to check their gates and fix/reach out to me about details 14:18:15 it also seems we have fragile gate hook 14:18:30 there is ongoing work on that matter in scope of https://review.openstack.org/438682 14:18:36 that may also need to be backported later 14:19:10 apart from that, business as usual (oom-killers, libvirtd crashing, dragons burning villages) 14:19:23 that's all I have, we'll elaborate in CI meeting in 2h 14:19:26 ihrachys: fragile in the sense that it randomly fails, or we are just a patch away from broken? 14:19:43 kevinbenton: as in 'gonna be broken in next weeks if we don't adopt to the right path' 14:19:48 ihrachys: ack 14:20:30 #topic neutron-lib 14:20:39 boden: any news? 14:21:18 #info neutron-lib is complete :) 14:21:56 kevinbenton: sorry I stepped away for a min 14:21:58 huh, WAT. is it 2025 already? 14:22:06 boden: no prob 14:22:13 boden: wanna give us a quick neutron-lib update? 14:22:55 as listed on the neutron meeting wiki; we have 2 lib impact changes in progress… they’ve been out for awhile so IMO they are about ready to merge 14:23:43 as we discussed at the PTG and I summerized in ML yesterday, we are proposing a single set of hacking checks for neutron-lib consumers.. just a heads up (again) as this impacts a number of projects 14:24:16 there are also a number of patches ready for review in neutron-lib… if you get time please take a peek :) 14:24:35 boden: are these the impact changes? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+message:%22NeutronLibImpact%22 14:25:30 I think we should speed up landing for neutron context patch. it's the best timing for such a huge change. 14:25:56 armax mentioned that this should happen after subprojects release ocata, I think sfc was the last one sched for this Wed 14:26:10 kevinbenton: yes but that list is a bit messy a cleaner picture might be: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+message:%22NeutronLibImpact%22+project:openstack/neutron 14:26:27 ihrachys: agree… the same goes for moving to the neutron-lib callbacks 14:26:48 I also see a lot of helpers to be killed with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433034/ was it ever announced? 14:27:16 oh sorry, those helpers were already marked with deprecations 14:27:28 ihrachys: I didn’t see an announce, but perhaps I missed it… I’ll follow up with garyk on that one 14:27:39 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388157/ 14:27:46 context spinoff patch 14:28:07 so we want this merged soon, right? 14:28:27 #info any importers of neutron.context will break after merge of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388157/ . please import from neutron-lib 14:28:57 mlavalle: yep 14:29:02 mlavalle: deal with the pain now 14:29:09 mlavalle: I would hope so. it's start of the cycle, better soon than late 14:29:23 Agree with both 14:31:01 also FYI: I sent a note to ML yesterday, but there was some discussion on forbidding provider net extended attrs update (PUT) at the API layer in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421961/ however it doesn’t appear folks think this is the right approach so I’m guessing it won’t end up merging 14:31:01 fyi. neutron-lib 1.2.0 got released recently and soon should land in requirements. so from now on, all the latest features provided by boden can be used 14:31:20 well; not just my features :) 14:31:27 boden-lib 14:31:28 :) 14:31:31 ha 14:31:37 ok, so fancy features from boden and couple others, not so fancy ;) 14:31:39 kevinbenton was going to look at allowing updates for the field 14:31:44 that's why we put -2 for now 14:32:28 ihrachys: yeah, with our internal segments API now, it may be much simpler to allow this 14:32:43 ihrachys: but I haven't had a chance to look into it yet 14:33:36 speaking of stadium projects, I just spotted dynamic-routing has broken periodic job in grafana 14:33:49 that's due to models moved in Ocata, and the fix will be https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438739/ 14:34:08 please approve so that we can land next breaking changes "safely" 14:34:27 otherwise they will need to squash and that's not cool 14:34:51 ack 14:35:00 oh also midonet and ovn broken 14:35:40 as per the dashboard at least. though I don't see any ovn failure in gerrit 14:35:59 when did the breaking change land? 14:36:10 networking-ovn has merged several changes in the last 12 hours or so 14:36:33 russellb: then you are good and it was one off 14:36:33 btw. are we still in neutron-lib section? shouldn't we change that? 14:36:42 I think the impactful is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/436312/ 14:36:47 ihrachys: ok thanks for looking out 14:36:54 midonet is definitely borked by it, and there is no fix yet 14:37:06 dasm: we divered a bit 14:37:29 boden: any other neutron-lib related things? 14:37:48 kevinbenton: I think that’s enough for now 14:38:16 #topic OSC 14:38:29 any updates on the OSC transition? 14:39:01 no update to report. 14:39:39 #topic docs 14:39:44 john-davidge: anything? 14:40:18 So kevinbenton mentioned in in the PTG summary email, but I'd like to highlight the point about DocImpact 14:41:07 When reviewing patches with a DocImpact tag, please make sure the commit message includes a summary of the doc change needed, whether its in the neutron tree or openstack-manuals 14:41:20 That helps a lot with triaging the resulting bugs 14:41:40 Also, we have some chnages planned for the Networking Guide over the Pike cycle: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/networking-guide-improvements 14:42:00 Anybody who's interested in working in the guide is most welcome :) 14:42:05 That's it 14:42:13 john-davidge: thanks 14:42:53 some on demand topics on here from the last meeting 14:43:08 #topic Disable security group filter refresh on DHCP port changes 14:43:22 i don't think mdorman is around 14:43:37 he wanted to discuss https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416380/ 14:44:11 I think that will be superceded by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/432506/ if we go that route 14:45:12 #topic Logging API for security groups 14:45:21 I think this was discussed at the PTG 14:45:36 so we probably don't need to discuss it again here 14:45:56 +1. Thanks kevin 14:46:07 #topic Open Discussion 14:46:15 anyone have anything else to discuss? 14:46:33 kevinbenton: quick update to your PTG summary of last night. For moving floating ips to central node in DVR, swami already filed a RFE: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1667877 14:46:33 Launchpad bug 1667877 in neutron "[RFE] DVR support for Configuring Floatingips in Network Node or in the Compute Node based on Config option." [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) 14:47:25 one thing from me: all stadium projects are now following cycle with milestones. everything will be synced now: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437699/ 14:47:49 and I assigned it to me :-) 14:48:11 dasm: oh that's nice, less headache for release team. 14:48:12 mlavalle: thanks, do you want to reply to that email with just a pointer to the RFE? 14:48:21 kevinbenton: will do 14:48:33 ihrachys: i agree 14:48:34 sorry for being late, regarding the bugs of last week most of the criticals were reported by you kevinbenton , there is a couple of invalid and other features 14:49:02 electrocucaracha: ok, thanks 14:49:23 there is only one that I would like to bring to discussion https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1667500 14:49:23 Launchpad bug 1667500 in neutron "Openstack add 'deafult' security group to a VM when attaching new interface to new network even the VM have customized secgroup" [Undecided,New] 14:49:25 dasm: cool. hopefully this works smoothly :) 14:49:46 but that discussion can happen offline 14:50:39 electrocucaracha: ack. i'll take a look 14:51:07 electrocucaracha: sounds like behaviour as designed 14:51:25 sec groups are per port 14:51:34 ihrachys, electrocucaracha: yeah, i think it would need to be a feature change on the nova side if they wanted this 14:51:45 + 14:51:47 to alter the port create request nova is making 14:51:51 tend to agree with ihar, but there may be a room to improve nova interaction 14:51:52 ihrachys: agree 14:52:14 amotoki: "improve nova integration" as always ;) 14:52:17 electrocucaracha: i would mark nova as an affected project because I don't think there is anything we can do on the neutron side 14:52:23 it's always nova's fault 14:52:30 perhaps nova side instead of nova interaction 14:52:38 +, close neutron side as Won't Fix and allow nova folks to triage 14:52:55 from neutron's perspective it's just a normal port create and we can't change that behavior 14:53:09 but there is a place in neutron where we ensure the existence of the default security group rule 14:53:36 electrocucaracha: right, but that's different from which security group is assigned to the port 14:53:57 electrocucaracha: if they want a different group assigned to the port, that needs to be in the port create body 14:54:00 I just closed it from neutron side and opened for nova 14:54:16 thanks ihrachys 14:54:25 nova maintains security groups associated with a VM itself, so nova can take care of the default secgroup when creating a new port from nova. 14:54:32 amotoki: right 14:54:44 amotoki: seems like a reasonable feature request for them 14:54:54 anything else? 14:54:56 kevinbenton: agree 14:55:37 ok, thanks everyone! 14:55:43 #endmeeting