14:01:45 #startmeeting networking 14:01:46 Meeting started Tue Sep 9 14:01:45 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mestery. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:01:47 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:01:49 The meeting name has been set to 'networking' 14:02:02 First, I'd like to welcome everyone to the first neutron meeting at 1400UTC! :) 14:02:13 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings Agenda 14:02:14 woooo ;p 14:02:17 we appreciate it 14:02:20 o/ 14:02:26 #topic Announcements 14:02:30 * dougwig waves groggily. 14:02:31 Juno-3 was released last week 14:02:47 #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/juno/juno-3/+download/neutron-2014.2.b3.tar.gz 14:02:55 Thanks to the team for some awesome work here! 14:03:13 We really pulled together, I'm happy and proud of the work everyone did! 14:03:17 fyi: wiki still states Tuesdays at 1400 UTC (#openstack-meeting-alt) 14:03:28 jckasper_: Will update (or please do yourself, thanks!) 14:03:51 We're now onto the first RC 14:04:02 #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/juno-rc1 14:04:33 We'll cover the FFEs for RC1 coming up in the agenda. 14:04:37 Any other announcements for the team? 14:05:24 Moving along then ... 14:05:26 #topic Bugs 14:05:26 hi 14:05:28 enikanorov: Hi there! 14:05:32 hi 14:05:38 hi :) 14:05:47 hi 14:05:56 finally a neutron meeting at a time when i am awake 14:05:57 garyk: Nice seeing you here ;) 14:06:07 garyk: :-) 14:06:08 on bugs: i see a spike in gate failures related to DB lockwait timeout and mysql connectivity problems 14:06:11 yeah, sorry for missing so many. my humble apologies 14:06:21 garyk: Totally understand. :) 14:06:30 enikanorov: Link? 14:06:32 the first one i need to sort out yet - some new lock wait timeouts appeared in -dvr gate job 14:06:46 i have not filed bugs yet, analysing logstash 14:07:09 i will file them soon 14:07:42 and there is another bug i'd like to mention: 14:07:44 enikanorov: Thanks! 14:07:45 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1323729 14:07:47 Launchpad bug 1323729 in neutron "Remove Open vSwitch and Linuxbridge plugins from the Neutron tree" [High,Confirmed] 14:07:56 enikanorov: markmcclain is on that one :) 14:08:02 are we going to do that in J? 14:08:02 enikanorov: I've got the proposals ready :) 14:08:23 I think we're waiting for the cisco plugin removal bug to land first, right markmcclain? 14:08:29 mestery: correct 14:08:30 HenryG: ^^^ 14:08:42 markmcclain: OK, lets see if we can land that one today and then get LB and OVS removal done. 14:08:53 Yes, it is about ready to get the boot. 14:08:56 ok, good 14:08:59 HenryG: Ha! :) 14:09:04 mestery: sounds good.. I'll coordinate with HenryG 14:09:09 that's all from me 14:09:09 markmcclain HenryG: Thanks! 14:09:24 regarding the DB lockwait timeout error, I have a patch that remove most of the locking in the db base plugin. It would be nice to get more feedback https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100963/ 14:09:24 enikanorov: Thanks for the update on bugs, and keep us updated on the ML around the DB bugs you're triaging now. 14:09:34 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100963/ 14:09:49 rossella_s: Thanks for the patch! Have any cores spent time on this one yet? 14:10:11 mestery: thanks! yes some core did but I think it needs more eyes on it 14:10:18 mestery: it is a big change 14:10:29 mestery, rossella_s: I've spent some time on it, but need to spend more since it is touches many critical paths 14:10:31 rossella_s: I see that in looking at it now :) 14:10:48 rossella_s: concern is that a lot of the CI's fail. 14:11:10 rossella_s: As per my review comment, I think more thourough testing is suggested by such a substantive change. 14:11:25 marun: +1 14:11:27 I agree with marun and garyk here. 14:11:28 garyk: I will have a look at the CI 14:11:32 We don't have tests that explicitly test concurrent operations do we? 14:11:32 feel same 14:11:37 rossella_s: I know that's complicated by the currently poor testing, and I'll be happy to help if you need. 14:11:50 marun: I added some unit tests, I can add a functional test, I'd appreciate your help 14:11:57 amuller: tempest, but it still requires a number of runs to be sure 14:12:13 rossella_s: I'm happy to help. 14:13:07 marun: thanks 14:13:07 #action marun to work with rossella_s to add more testing to the DB locking patch 14:13:12 Thanks for the offer of help marun! 14:13:26 Any other bugs the team should be aware of now? 14:14:12 #topic FFE BP Discussion 14:14:26 The list of BPs with a granted FFE are here: https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/juno-rc1 14:14:35 I'd like to walk through them and see where they are, 14:14:42 We have until Friday to land these. 14:14:49 First one: L3 HA 14:14:50 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/l3-high-availability 14:14:59 carl_baldwin: You have been sheparding this one, how is it looking? 14:15:04 url 2 14:15:47 mestery: looking better. Some refactoring came in recently that I think needs some work. 14:16:00 There are three patches left. 14:16:19 carl_baldwin: What is your estimate on if we can land them by Friday? Looking good still? 14:16:52 I think it is looking pretty good. 14:17:13 carl_baldwin: Thanks! 14:17:20 is there any wiki (or other) to explain how to test it? I think we need more broader testing. 14:17:25 amuller has agreed to work with me to work on more substantive functional post-merge. 14:17:47 (though i do testing manually) 14:17:48 amotoki: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam#Blueprint:_l3-high-availability_.28safchain.2C_amuller.29 14:17:59 the goal will be an automated end-to-end test of l3 ha before release of juno 14:18:02 amuller: thanks for the link 14:18:13 amuller: really useful 14:18:14 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam#Blueprint:_l3-high-availability_.28safchain.2C_amuller.29 14:18:36 Thanks for the updates on this one! Next on the list is ipset: 14:18:38 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/add-ipset-to-security 14:18:45 I believe this one has a single patch left. 14:18:57 And the main holdup now is around the possible need for refactoring this. 14:19:10 ajo: You've been looking at this one and brought this up with me yesterday I recall. 14:19:12 my concern with the l3 HA is scale. have you guys done any scale tests with this? or does it work with devstack ? 14:19:21 mestery: looks like 2 reviews for IPSet 14:19:34 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/add-ipset-to-security,n,z 14:19:35 markmcclain: I think one is a testing patch and salv has marked that one WIP. 14:19:38 mestery, correct 14:19:43 I believe it's in very good shape now 14:19:49 I just submited the functional testing 14:19:52 as a follow up atch 14:19:53 markmcclain: Whoops, I'm wrong, sorry :) 14:19:55 patch 14:20:06 Ah, that explains it then ajo. :) 14:20:06 garyk: We normally perform those kind of tests post-merge 14:20:08 mestery: I plan on reviewing these today 14:20:14 markmcclain: Thanks! 14:20:18 :-) 14:20:31 markmcclain: Note the comments around refactoring and the time left. I was fine with the refactoring happening in kilo, would appreciate your comments there as well! 14:21:01 mestery: ok 14:21:07 mestery, I believe the problem around refactoring into a driver, was problematic with CI & devstack 14:21:14 as we would have to point to the new driver once ready. 14:21:14 ajo: OK 14:21:21 the work was actually easy 14:21:56 ajo: Thanks for the update here! I think this one also looks to be in good shape to merge by Friday. 14:22:27 Moving on: retargetable functional testing 14:22:28 thanks :) 14:22:29 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/retargetable-functional-testing 14:22:45 marun: This one is yours, and since it's testing, doesn't need an FFE but does need to merge by Friday. 14:22:49 marun: What are your thoughts on this one merging this week yet? 14:23:06 I'll have an updated patch tomorrow that removes lb and ovs testing and replaces it with ml2. 14:23:27 marun: Excellent! 14:23:35 I've already addressed substantive comments from salv-orlando, so I expect it should be mergeable tomorrow. 14:23:57 marun: Thank you! Hopefully we can get it in the merge queue tomorrow then. 14:24:23 Next one on the list is FWaaS support for DVR: 14:24:25 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/neutron-dvr-fwaas 14:24:37 carl_baldwin: Have you been looking at this one with armax and SumitNaiksatam? 14:25:16 * carl_baldwin looks 14:25:21 carl_baldwin: ;) 14:25:27 yes, I’ve had an eye on it. 14:25:44 I think armax has also been reviewing this one. 14:26:08 I think it is very close. Will review again today as my comments from yesterday seem to have been addressed. 14:26:12 I'll ping SridarK_ later today for an update on this one as well. 14:26:16 carl_baldwin: Thank you! 14:26:28 mestery: yes all comment addresses as of now 14:26:36 carl_baldwin: thanks for review 14:26:45 SridarK_: Hey! Excellent, thanks! Any ideas on the current Jenkins failure there? 14:27:03 mestery: seems unrelated - just triggered a recheck 14:27:09 SridarK_: thank you! 14:27:18 mestery: thx 14:27:27 OK, next up is migration reorganization: 14:27:28 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/reorganize-migrations 14:27:47 I spoke to salv-orlando over the weekend via email, and there is one patch in particular he wants merged out of this series 14:27:55 Even if all of them don't make it. 14:28:26 mestery: can you please point the patch? 14:28:36 I believe it's this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112732/ 14:28:40 mestery: salv is also away for a few days. 14:28:44 garyk: Yes 14:28:55 HenryG: You've been reviewing this one I believe. 14:29:08 HenryG: Are you aware of salv's wishes on this BP? 14:29:21 Yup. It's pretty close to go in, I think. 14:29:40 HenryG: OK, thanks! I don't think salv can update it this week, is this something you could take on in his abscense? 14:29:48 Sure 14:29:56 HenryG: Thanks! 14:29:58 great. can you ping me and i will review 14:30:12 #action HenryG to take on the DB migration patches from salv-orlando this week 14:30:12 Thanks gary, will do 14:30:17 HenryG: could you share points on what should be reviewed and what points should be checked? 14:30:18 HenryG: also feel free to ping met oo 14:30:21 hemna: dankie 14:30:37 HenryG: ^ 14:31:09 :) 14:31:12 The next one on the list is the L3 metering label changes: 14:31:13 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/l3-metering-mgnt-ext 14:31:18 This one has two very small patches 14:31:56 amotoki: Looks like you need to sync with brian haley on this one per the review 14:32:01 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70090/ 14:32:03 My last comment on that patch was a question for amotoki asking for clarification 14:32:08 amotoki: Can you do that this week yet? 14:32:14 haleyb: Ack 14:32:15 haleyb: will check asfter the meeting. 14:32:21 amotoki: Thank you! 14:32:30 ok, or even safchain since he originally did the code 14:33:01 The last BP on the FFE list is another testing one, UT test autodeletion: 14:33:02 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/remove-unit-test-autodeletion 14:33:23 This one is now in the queue it appears 14:33:33 mestery: sorry, I was away afk 14:33:39 SumitNaiksatam: no worries :) 14:33:44 markmcclain: Thanks for getting that one in the queue this morning! 14:34:01 mestery: kevinbenton helped too 14:34:11 kevinbenton: Thanks for getting that one up this morning! 14:34:17 So, that's it for BPs with FFEs. 14:34:22 It looks like we're in pretty good shape. 14:34:24 mestery: regarding, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/neutron-dvr-fwaas SridarK_ and the rest of the fwaas team is currently doing functional testing 14:34:26 Remember, these need to merge by Friday. 14:34:35 SumitNaiksatam: Ack, thanks for the update there! 14:34:56 mestery: all review comments have been addressed last night 14:35:18 SumitNaiksatam: Awesome! carl_baldwin is going to look at that one today as well, and hopefully armax can re-review it today as well. 14:35:33 OK, moving on in the agenda now. 14:35:35 mestery: yeah, thanks armax and carl_baldwin 14:36:07 #topic Incubator Update 14:36:08 SumitNaiksatam: ready to +2. Need to address CI failures. 14:36:29 mestery: with the extreme gate backlog last week held off adding more work for infra 14:36:31 markmcclain: Can you provide an update on the incubator now that Juno-3 has passed and with it the 24hour merge window? 14:36:35 markmcclain: Jinx! :) 14:37:08 :) 14:37:12 markmcclain: will resume the work now that higher priority items are merged 14:37:17 mestery: haha 14:37:19 markmcclain: Awesome and thanks! 14:37:42 #topic Parity 14:37:47 markmcclain: Hi again :) 14:38:21 mestery: hi.. we have to make a devstack change to address one issue and held off with j-3 rush, so will push that this week 14:38:42 markmcclain: I think we should push this patch on the devstack side as well: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105785/ 14:38:47 That makes neutron the default in devstack 14:38:48 Thoughts? 14:39:12 mestery: we need to activate grenade testing first which is in the queue 14:39:18 markmcclain: Ack 14:39:19 *my work queue 14:39:28 and then we can flip the default 14:39:35 markmcclain: Sounds good 14:40:17 mestery: my only concern with that devstack one is the mad rush for J 14:40:32 can we defer it for a week or 2 when the gate is a little less crazy 14:40:37 garyk: Agreed, and to be honest, if it slips to post-J, it's not a huge deal. 14:40:38 garyk: Ack 14:40:52 garyk: It's main purpose is that it's part of the parity plan agreed to with the TC at the start of Juno. 14:41:15 i just feel that we are alsways between a rock and a hard place in neutron so it we can just limit the rocks being thrown at us :) 14:41:28 less rocks are always better 14:41:34 ++ 14:42:04 OK, lets move on now. 14:42:06 #topic Docs 14:42:11 emagana: Hi! Docs update this week? 14:42:13 mestery: Hi 14:42:23 mestery: a short one! 14:43:02 Folks help us to identify gaps on documentation (specially the new staff), we are using this etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-docs-juno 14:43:04 link# https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-docs-juno 14:43:26 ups.. #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-docs-juno 14:43:44 So far, I believe only L3 HA is not included 14:44:31 * mestery looks at the etherpad link 14:44:57 There is some good stuff in there emagana, I'll eyeball this closer post-meeting, thanks for sharing! 14:45:01 nothing more 14:45:07 emagana: Are there any deadlines for docs we should be aware of? 14:45:30 dont have the deadlines 14:45:41 emagana: OK, was just curious. Thanks! 14:45:43 I think one milestone is a month after the release. 14:45:51 let me get them from anne and I will update both wiki and etherpad 14:46:06 amotoki emagana: Thank you! 14:46:11 (just from our experience from icehouse) 14:46:12 Yes, normally Docs are more flexible than the rest of the projects 14:46:54 * mestery doesn't see mlavalle here so will skip Tempest today. 14:46:58 #topic L3 14:47:02 carl_baldwin: Good morning! 14:47:05 hi 14:47:14 wiki is up to date. 14:47:35 Will post infra changes soon to make dvr job non-voting (from experimental) 14:47:50 carl_baldwin: Excellent! 14:47:52 We discussed L3 HA. I think it is converging. 14:48:20 Need a tempest change to merge to fix experimental job. 14:48:32 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116377/ 14:48:43 * mestery looks 14:49:15 That is all I have. I’ll point readers to the wiki for the rest. 14:49:18 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings#L3_.28carl_baldwin.29 14:49:20 carl_baldwin: That looks like an innocuous patch to me. 14:49:38 mestery: Yeah, just need some tempest cores to look and accept it. 14:49:57 It should get us clean tempest runs on dvr. 14:50:01 carl_baldwin: Maybe ping some folks in #openstack-qa, I bet you could get it in the queue today easily. 14:50:27 #action carl_baldwin will ping #openstack-qa today 14:50:34 #topic IPV6 14:50:38 sc68cal: Hi! Around? 14:51:53 * mestery thought he saw sc68cal update the IPV6 agenda this week, waits for a moment longer. 14:52:01 mestery, can I provide one review about IPv6? 14:52:12 xuhanp: Please do! 14:52:13 https://review.openstack.org/103811 14:52:14 xuhanp: Thanks! 14:52:25 I will address the -1 tomorrow, but can get more comments. 14:52:33 We will need that for DHCPv6 to work 14:52:37 #link https://review.openstack.org/103811 14:52:43 xuhanp: OK 14:52:50 mestery, thanks! 14:53:05 xuhanp: are there any reviews we need to take care of before Juno? 14:53:05 xuhanp: Anything else in IPV6 area this week? 14:53:15 *any other reviews 14:53:25 not as I am aware of 14:53:36 will ping you guys if there are more. 14:53:37 There is the one with the issue regarding HA router failover 14:54:01 HenryG: Link? 14:54:09 * HenryG is looking for it ... 14:54:32 I think HenryG is talking about the dev ML topic. 14:54:47 https://review.openstack.org/114437 14:54:48 this link? 14:55:09 amotoki: yes, and xuhanp: yes. Thanks. 14:55:21 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/thread.html#44602 14:55:28 That patch is in WIP right now, isn't it? 14:55:53 Anyways, lets see if that one can make it as well. 14:56:00 amotoki: thanks for the link there! 14:56:04 We are still trying to figure out the right way to do it for IPv6 14:56:45 xuhanp: thanks! 14:56:48 #topic Open Discussion 14:57:00 thanks for the new meeting time 14:57:03 Good news from Horizon. Most planned blueprints (including DVR and IPV6) and bugs have been merged. I will talk with david (ptl) about L3-HA support. 14:57:07 marios: you're welcome 14:57:21 amotoki: awesome! 14:57:22 amotoki: thats wonderful! 14:57:22 mestery: best to remind folks of the next rotating meeting before we are done 14:57:23 markmcclain, do you have an approx timeframe for the incubator to be available 14:57:35 fyi - group based policy (gbp) has a stackforge repo: https://github.com/stackforge/group-based-policy 14:57:36 regXboi: Hey there, and yes! 14:57:52 * regXboi has been lurking the whole meeting 14:58:01 #info Neutron meeting rotates, next week is back to Monday at 2000 UTC 14:58:14 2100UTC? 14:58:22 amotoki: Right. 14:58:31 #info Neutron meeting rotates, next week is back to Monday at 2100 UTC 14:58:42 * mestery needs to go for more coffee in 2 minutes 14:58:49 OK, thanks everyone! 14:58:51 hemanthravi: after it finishes incubating :-) 14:59:03 I'm glad the new meeting time has allowed some fresh faces to join us! 14:59:08 amotoki++ 14:59:13 We'll see you all on the ML and IRC! 14:59:15 #endmeeting