17:01:52 #startmeeting murano 17:01:53 Meeting started Tue Jul 21 17:01:52 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kzaitsev_mb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:01:54 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:01:57 The meeting name has been set to 'murano' 17:02:14 hi all, murano time 17:02:19 Hi 17:02:26 Hi 17:03:02 hi 17:03:37 o/ 17:03:42 Hi noa-koffman! 17:03:46 Hi 17:03:47 Happy to see you here :) 17:03:55 mgershen: o/ 17:03:57 Hi 17:03:58 Hi, happy to be here :) 17:04:03 :D 17:04:06 :D 17:04:07 FilipBlaha: o/ 17:04:10 Agenda for todays meeting: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MuranoAgenda/Archive/2015-07-21/ 17:04:14 o/ 17:04:47 so we can start with action items review. There was only one — I had to update the yaql BP, to offload some work from slagun 17:05:01 I didn't, but katyafervent did the work anyway =) 17:05:02 o/ 17:05:11 thank you katyafervent for that! =) 17:05:15 :) 17:05:42 #topic Migrating to yaql 1.0 status. 17:06:02 So slagun is unable to attend, but I chatted with him and can give a status update 17:07:00 1) the dsl is ported 2) yaql itself was improved by slagun. What's left is to port yaql functions of the engine (not dsl) 17:07:11 slagun promises to finish it by tomorrow =) 17:07:44 the WIP commits are #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204099/ 17:08:01 and #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204103/ 17:08:34 So let's hope that we'll see murano working on yaql 1.0 by the end of the week =) 17:08:57 kzaitsev_mb: we need to coordinate with Mistral team on that 17:09:12 We should switch to 1.0 together 17:09:20 sergmelikyan: that's a good point! 17:09:30 https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:bp/migrate-to-yaql-vnext,n,z 17:10:00 Stan, please set corresponding topic to be able to see all commits 17:10:47 We will release new version of yaql and update all the patches 17:10:59 so it's too early to merge them 17:12:12 sorry, got disconnected 17:12:32 #action slagun coordinate yaql1.0 release with mistral guys 17:12:41 lets leave it like this, then 17:13:09 #topic Assign CrossProjectLiason status for Oslo (and possibly Release management) 17:13:38 so the next topic is about CPLs 17:14:04 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons for those who do not know who CPLs are 17:14:40 sergmelikyan, are you willing to share Oslo and Release duties with someone, right? 17:15:07 kzaitsev_mb: will be happy to :) 17:15:57 I think I can take oslo, since I visit Oslo for horizon anyway, but that would make me have 3 CPL titles, whoch is a bit too much +) 17:16:47 katyafervent: can you maybe take doc CPL from me? =) 17:16:57 kzaitsev_mb: it takes too much of your time? 17:17:11 not really, just the bus factor ) 17:17:13 I don't know what I need to do 17:18:14 katyafervent: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Documentation here's short info. you do not to do much, just be the person, that passes important news from doc team to murano and vice versa 17:19:20 ok 17:19:22 sergmelikyan: and the release.. I'm not really sure about that one. 17:19:38 kzaitsev_mb: I will keep this one for now 17:20:47 ok, so if no objections katyafervent takes documentation CPL from me. I take oslo CPL from sergmelikyan. and sergmelikyan keeps release CPL. 17:21:36 kzaitsev_mb: no objections :) 17:21:37 #agreed katyafervent is the new doc CPL, kzaitsev_mb is the new oslo CPL, sergmelikyan is still the release CPL 17:22:05 I'll update the wiki, then =) 17:22:46 Let's move to the openstack-murano question then 17:22:53 #topic Voting: should we move to openstack-murano? 17:23:20 recently I wrote an email about that 17:23:31 #startvote should we move to #openstack-murano? Yes, No, Abstain 17:23:31 Begin voting on: should we move to #openstack-murano? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain. 17:23:32 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 17:23:36 ativelkov: summarized my thoughts around that, that's why I don't support this idea at all 17:23:41 No 17:23:46 #vote No 17:23:48 most of openstack project have openstack suffix. 17:24:01 #vote Yes 17:24:03 #vote Abstain 17:24:09 Is that just heat has not that suffix? 17:24:37 #vote No 17:24:38 #vote Abstain 17:24:40 There are a lot of resources where we providing our irc channel as #murano 17:24:41 #vote Abstain 17:24:48 katyafervent: there is a wiki page with all IRC channels 17:24:59 #vote Abstain 17:25:05 ativelkov: your vote? 17:25:12 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/IRC 17:25:15 I'm not see real significant reasons to stay in #murano 17:25:16 sergmelikyan: I did 17:25:21 #vote No 17:25:23 see above) 17:25:33 A really lot of resources, that's why I very negative about that 17:25:36 *I am 17:25:47 congres, heat and nova-docker 17:25:50 #vote No 17:25:56 and also magneto-db 17:26:00 #vote Abstain 17:27:05 #vote Yes 17:28:01 on the one hand this make our channel a bit more consistent, but on the other would likely cause confusion and some trouble short and mid-term 17:30:07 Heat is perfectly fine with they channel :) 17:30:12 we loosing our time with vote "Abstain". there are should be just two options 17:30:16 katyafervent: I'm really surprised that you vote 'No' in this voting. ;) 17:30:17 I don't see why we need to change ours 17:30:31 Let's finish the vote 17:30:44 #endvote 17:30:45 Voted on "should we move to #openstack-murano?" Results are 17:30:46 Yes (2): freerunner, ruhe 17:30:47 Abstain (5): noa-koffman, FilipBlaha, kzaitsev_mb, mgershen, Nikolay_St 17:30:48 No (3): katyafervent, ativelkov, sergmelikyan 17:31:38 I could affect the result) 17:31:43 katyafervent: well, if we didn't have abstain, people could just ignore the vote to do so =) 17:31:53 I just imagine what we need to change 17:32:06 all docs together with readme's 17:32:13 so it's decided. We're staying in #murano 17:32:33 katyafervent: lot's of work, really =) 17:32:42 #topic Logging refactoring and the spec for it. 17:32:48 our last topic for today 17:32:57 Nikolay_St: can you pls elaborate? 17:33:04 kzaitsev_mb: yeap 17:33:52 so, a few weeks ago when I just join the team I suggest an idea to write a loggin spec for murano like this one: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-specs/blob/master/specs/log-guidelines.rst 17:34:29 It's a complex spec with general statements 17:34:48 and here is the one I've adopted to sahara project: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/sahara-specs/specs/kilo/sahara-log-guidelines.html 17:35:11 but few week ago we use murano.common.log 17:35:41 and now we merged oslo_log into murano ana I also provide a patch with oslo_log to murano-dasboard 17:36:11 so, as for me it's time to work on spec with more specific log levels descriptions and rules 17:36:31 I plan to do it myself 17:36:33 #link https://github.com/openstack/openstack-specs/blob/master/specs/log-guidelines.rst 17:37:10 what do you think do we need this spec? 17:37:26 #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/sahara-specs/specs/kilo/sahara-log-guidelines.html 17:37:28 We need this spect, but it's sure not a top priority thing 17:38:07 sergmelikyan: I rememer about amount of bugs 17:38:13 agree with sergmelikyan on that one. Would be really nice to have a guideline, but we're not desperate to have one =) 17:38:16 I'll do it in 'background' 17:38:41 Nikolay_St: looks like a nice idea overall to me. 17:38:48 +1 17:40:04 so, we can mark it as agreed, right? 17:40:07 #action Nikolay_St create a draft of the log guideline spec. 17:40:30 nice 17:40:32 Nikolay_St: yep, I think there are no objections to that one =) 17:40:48 so If you have time to work on it — it would be really nice. 17:40:58 ok, then 17:41:03 #topic Open Discussion 17:41:21 Anything you have to discuss about murano in general? 17:41:46 Oh! I think we have an announcement: python-muranoclient was released 17:42:10 python-muranoclient 0.6.2 to be specific with abandon feature support 17:42:14 I opened a bug today https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/1476543, and wanted to see if there is an agreement about this issue 17:42:15 Launchpad bug 1476543 in murano "catalog/packages//ui does not return json" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Lin Yang (lin-a-yang) 17:42:16 Launchpad bug 1476543 in murano "catalog/packages//ui does not return json" [Undecided,New] 17:42:17 Launchpad bug 1476543 in murano "catalog/packages//ui does not return json" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1476543 17:42:54 btw, sergmelikyan shouldn't we write about these to openstack-announce@lists.openstack.org ? 17:43:20 noa-koffman: right, I think it looks like bug 17:43:36 noa-koffman: definitely a bug 17:43:58 confirmed 17:44:04 ok thanks 17:44:13 kzaitsev_mb: usually small releases are not announced 17:44:19 I think you can even say triaged ;) 17:44:46 I also opened a bug regarding the version of murano endpoint in keystone, https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/1476716 17:44:47 Launchpad bug 1476716 in murano "murano is registerd in keystone without API version" [Undecided,New] 17:44:48 Launchpad bug 1476716 in murano "murano is registerd in keystone without API version" [Undecided,New] 17:44:49 Launchpad bug 1476716 in murano "murano is registerd in keystone without API version" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1476716 17:44:59 that we discussed about last week 17:45:29 sergmelikyan: well there was recently a letter about glance_store 0.7.0..0.7.1 being released. 17:45:31 Yep, thank you for that! 17:45:59 kzaitsev_mb: well, than I would appreciate if you would send e-mail there 17:46:22 Nikolay_St: can you take a look at the both of them? 17:47:20 sergmelikyan: you're talking about bugs? 17:47:27 yep 17:47:32 ok I'll take a look at the list and send a letter there. I think we can start using that mailing list a bit more =) 17:48:22 sergmelikyan: Lin Yang is working on one of those, we should try to catch the guy and ask him/her to visit our meetings sometime 17:48:23 sergmelikyan: one of them is already assigned to Lin Yang 17:48:30 but I'll take another one 17:48:49 he seems to do some good job fixing some of our smaller bugs =) 17:49:00 Nikolay_St: ok great thanks 17:53:52 Any other open questions? Or we can finish slightly earlier? 17:55:11 I think we can. was witing for -5 mins 17:55:25 ok, folks. Thanks everyone for attending! 17:55:30 bye 17:55:32 Bye 17:55:34 bye 17:55:39 See you next week or in #murano 17:55:40 bye 17:55:43 #endmeeting