17:04:36 #startmeeting murano 17:04:37 Meeting started Tue Nov 26 17:04:36 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ativelkov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:04:38 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:04:41 The meeting name has been set to 'murano' 17:04:44 Hi! 17:05:02 Howdy 17:05:24 adrian_otto: no doubt, my headspace is still within the existing 21 BPs as there's good foundation there that needs to be brought to life 17:05:27 oops 17:06:22 It turns out we do not have any explicit agenda for today (my fault indeed - was to busy to publish it in advance) 17:06:37 But let's start with AI review, as usual 17:07:07 Yes, what's first 17:08:04 We planned to forward the LoadBalancer email to Neutron and Fuel team, 17:08:05 asking for feedback 17:08:51 Yep. Serge was in charge of this. Serge? 17:10:59 Not done yet :( 17:11:13 Any estimates? 17:11:19 We have collected feedback from community, but not yet from Fuel team. 17:11:35 This is a right time to do as they are implementing autoscaling and lb right now. 17:11:37 It going to be done by Thurday 17:11:39 Not from Neutron team as well, I guess 17:12:05 Thursday is a holiday 17:12:24 even Friday probably will be non working day 17:13:24 I will write e-mail tomorrow, and I expect that we going to collect some feedback before holidays. We already settled with implementation, AFAIK? 17:13:50 Well, it is settled, but if we get any feedback it may be changed 17:13:59 +1 17:14:41 May be then we need to postpone implementation? 17:15:09 I had plans to begin with implementation on this week. 17:15:09 Let's discuss estimation 17:15:23 Well, if you expect it to be done soon, let's postpone it then - it should not take long 17:15:26 ETA - 5-7 days with testing and etc... 17:15:44 (1-2 days for actual implementation) 17:16:01 #agreed postpone autoscaling implementation until we get actual feedback from Neutron and Fuel teams 17:16:28 Fuel -> Heat ? 17:16:35 No, fuel 17:16:46 we needed some feedback from their side 17:17:16 just a note, the Neutron guys are currently meeting in #openstack-meeting and discussion data collection via ceilometer 17:17:32 assumption is this is the precursor to being able to offer autoscaling 17:17:40 funzo: thanks 17:17:49 Due to one of the implementation strategies based on Nuutron LBaaS for which Fuel has no support at all 17:19:36 Probably we'll need separate discussion with them. 17:19:38 Ok. Sergey you can work with Eugene Nikanorov. He is a part of LBaaS team, so he can probably help. 17:19:51 I think it'll require some time for folks to get acquainted with the context, so let's initiate this by email. 17:19:52 Eugene is in Saratov. 17:19:54 Ok, let's move on 17:20:32 next AI: gokrokve to summarise the decisions of Solum design workshop for further discussion of integration paths 17:20:54 Hm. Right now it is too early. 17:21:02 hi there ) 17:21:15 hi Timur 17:21:28 gokrokve nothing to integrate with yet? ) 17:21:33 have i missed something important? 17:21:35 I am participating in mostly all Solum meeting, but right now the main focus of Solum team is to create initial design. 17:22:00 There are some integration points related to Windows ecosystem. 17:22:14 Solum will be agnostic to OS. 17:23:06 And Solum will support both VM and Container as a deployment unit. 17:23:06 well, building windows-based images is a complicated stuff indeed 17:23:32 Yes. There was a discussion about that in openstack-dev. 17:24:06 [openstack-dev] [Solum] Working group on language packs 17:24:12 #info potential integration points with Solum related to Windows ecosystem 17:24:27 Yes, this looks interesting 17:25:39 Ok, then let's continue watching Solum's discussions and email distributions. We don't want to miss anything important there 17:26:02 I am also trying to bring more use cases for Application Catalog. We have some customers who want it. 17:26:17 I am working with them to collect all necessary requirements. 17:26:50 Sure. Keep an eye on Solum. This is very interesting project. 17:27:29 Yeah. But we need to make sure that our set of use-cases is generic and useful for the whole comunity: customer-specific things should not complicated the overall vision 17:27:40 I remember that Heat team asked us about specific requirements for HOS software orchestration. 17:27:45 Do we have some? 17:27:52 HOS->HOT 17:28:03 stanlagun has answered to that email 17:28:47 Yes. But after a week, do we have more details on that. On this phase of implementation we can actually ask for some specific features. 17:29:00 We don't know anything specific yet 17:29:18 It completely depends on our implementation of metadata and workflow dsl 17:29:29 That's actually our last AI from the last meeting 17:29:33 Then check software components definitions. Thay have an idea of different deployers (chef, puppet). 17:29:40 "tivelkov stanlagun to formalise the new metadata ideas in the etherpad" 17:30:08 At least we can use HOT to install our agent. 17:30:21 This is useful - but we need to settle the higher level first 17:30:27 sure. 17:30:38 So, the ether pad is not ready yet 17:31:01 We are trying to come with some design proposal that would be complete and feature rich 17:31:20 then we will reduce it to a subset of something easier to implement 17:31:36 Hovever, the process turned out to be trickier then we expected 17:32:20 Anyway, we expect it to be finished this week, so we may share the vision to others and start implementing once we get some feedback 17:34:10 So, tha't all on action items 17:34:32 Let's cover our other news 17:34:44 sergmelikyan: what's new on release 0.3? 17:35:43 We successfully released Murano v0.3 :) 17:36:32 We have plans to release screencast-review with new features released with v0.3 17:38:17 Please work with Nick Chase on that. 17:38:33 He can help you to do this in a right way. 17:38:59 gokrokve, Ok, but he is on vacation now 17:39:00 #action sergmelikyan to elaborate with Nick Chase on 0.3 screencast 17:39:57 More news 17:40:06 release 0.4 is in progress 17:40:22 advancedNetwowrking has been merged into master 17:40:41 excessive testing should begin soon 17:40:57 do we have WebUI options for this? 17:41:05 no, we don't 17:41:17 it is postponed until 0.5 17:41:32 ok, we started to test it ) 17:41:40 Also, we've found that there is a problem with nova-network support (https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/1255057) 17:41:48 This has just been fixed 17:43:07 so, how we should configure OpenStack to try this feature? How it will work with Nova network? 17:44:13 There will be a configuration parameter indicating default network topology 17:45:39 ok, I will test it ) 17:46:21 ping me if you need more details 17:47:08 I think that was all for the current status 17:47:21 Does anybody have something else to discuss? 17:47:39 ok, thank you ) 17:48:25 yes, need to fix roadmap on the murano wiki page, we plan release Murano 0.4 in december 17:49:14 ou, it is already writed on wiki, ok ) 17:49:16 Ok, good catch 17:50:15 other questions? 17:51:17 Seems like we are done 17:51:48 lets end the meeting then 17:51:51 #endmeeting