15:01:08 #startmeeting monasca 15:01:08 Meeting started Wed May 15 15:01:08 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is witek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:09 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:01:12 The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' 15:01:17 hello everyone 15:01:24 the agenda for today: 15:01:29 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda 15:01:53 #topic Train priorities 15:02:07 thanks for your votes 15:02:18 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MWp8sCTeoJPnAysFzRKkxhvd8MR4AaJT04LxoJiE2QM/edit#gid=0 15:02:50 the clear winner in Middleware upgrade 15:03:24 this is always a good exercise. It makes you realize the tradeoffs in time 15:03:27 not a surprise :-) 15:03:49 after that it's kind of difficult to make a clear cut, what should be high and low prio 15:04:31 joadavis: yes, I would prefer to give 100 to almost all of them :) 15:05:01 @witek: clearly nobody has interest in gnocchi 15:05:57 I wouldn't say it doesn't make sense 15:06:40 but it's a lot of effort without clear added value 15:07:10 and the future of the project is not clear 15:07:58 how many items do we want as high prio? 15:08:31 4? 15:08:37 no more then 4 15:08:47 Was going to say 3 including the ones in progress 15:09:39 let's take 4 including the old ones 15:09:48 and my suggestion is to drop all our preferences and focus on main priority first 15:11:28 sc: Agree it makes sense to focus our review efforts 15:12:37 OK, I've created the groups of 4 in the spreadsheet 15:13:10 hm, prio3 should probably have one more item 15:13:47 now we'll also need owners for these tasks 15:14:05 that the difficult part, for me 15:15:12 Doug has started already, thanks 15:15:34 please take your time and volunteer for tasks 15:15:50 I'll put them in the spec page in the next days 15:17:18 for monasca-thresh replacement and query language, we wanted to get back to decision makers to check the readiness for commitment 15:17:49 I myself don't have answer yet, hope to give some answer next week 15:18:47 Similar situation here 15:19:05 yes, that needs time 15:19:49 OK, any comments or questions on prioritization? 15:19:50 mine are desiderata 15:20:24 sc: ? 15:21:27 #topic Migration from Ceilometer 15:21:30 I marked two tasks but I have to confirm them, till now read them as : I would like to be the owner 15:21:44 that's OK, thanks 15:21:49 sc: to some extent, that applies to all of us. :) 15:22:33 I started a wiki page for migration to capture a few thoughts. Please feel free to add any ideas or wants you have 15:22:42 We can fill them out as we go 15:22:58 very nice, thank you 15:23:42 the section `comparison of features`, what could it include? 15:23:53 Once we have a rough idea, we can try defining a reference example, maybe using devstack and cloudkitty or something 15:24:55 I think billing is not the only interesting use case, there was e.g. a lot of interest about auto-scaling 15:24:56 for comparision of features, I was thinking it could just be a short list or table. items would be 'does it handle events' 'does it monitor cpu/storage/network' 'can it export to billing' 15:25:11 yes, we should call out auto scaling 15:26:50 perhaps identify and list important metrics for the use cases like billing, auto-scaling 15:27:42 for someone who is actually going to migrate, it might be interesting to list the actual metric name equivalents 15:27:53 right 15:29:20 on the related topics, there was an email from Public Cloud SIG 15:29:24 http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-May/006215.html 15:31:08 ah, yes, I was going to mention that 15:31:30 they want to host a meeting and discuss possible implementations for billing 15:31:30 I added a few notes, but was trying not to dig myself in too deep :*) 15:32:45 I guess we can move on to reviews? 15:33:03 It might be an interesting question for the OpenStack survey - how many users use billing, and how many of those roll their own solution 15:33:09 yes, we can move on 15:33:50 #topic reviews 15:34:02 dropping py35 15:34:16 I think these were merged already 15:35:05 I cannot connect to gerrit right now 15:35:30 The one on monasca-common is still hitting intermittent failures https://review.opendev.org/#/c/652418/ 15:35:49 eh :( 15:37:07 I've added blacklisting bandit 1.6 to pass the pep jobs in some repos 15:37:13 I think I'd missed reviewing the one for monasca-ui as well - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/652419/ 15:37:25 thanks for that bandit work 15:37:48 in monasca-ui I think we have other problems 15:38:13 if its about failing tests, its in agenda for today :) 15:39:17 thanks piotrowskim, yes, let's leave it for the end 15:39:29 another bumper was falcon 2.0 15:39:38 https://review.opendev.org/#/c/659264/ 15:40:45 What do we do about old releases? Do we backport this patch, or try to limit Falcon to <2.0.0 15:41:21 is falcon in global requirements? 15:41:49 yes, so we have upper constraints in stable branches 15:41:57 Ah yes, of course 15:42:17 1.4.1 for Stein 15:42:25 we should be good 15:42:43 Cool, thanks 15:43:12 I see lower-constraints job failing on your change 15:43:38 with many tests failing 15:44:20 Still investigating how backwards compatible it is going to be 15:45:24 thanks for your work dougsz, you're on the good way to solve it 15:45:57 any other reviews apart from monasca-ui? 15:45:58 you're welcome 15:46:31 #topic monasca-ui tests 15:46:56 ok so I think mu turn 15:47:37 do you have some findings, what the problems are about? 15:47:52 yes 15:48:13 in one commit in horizon, author changed the debug flag from django setting from false to true 15:48:58 it displays full stack of errors right now, he did it to fix tests on their side 15:49:38 with flag set to false its ok, but with set to true it raises ValueError 15:50:08 can we easily update our code or is it complicated? 15:50:32 not sure how I can handle it further, I can in all 22 tests that we have on monasca-ui just try:except the ValueError which we have from the stack 15:50:49 or we need to downgrade horizon, which I belive is not possible 15:51:18 no, the second is definitely not the right path 15:51:46 exactly, maybe there is a possibility to do it "right" instead of just try:except 15:51:53 we could ask horizon team for some hints how to handle it 15:52:21 sounds like a good idea to me 15:52:35 chaconpiza: do you think you could help on it? 15:52:46 Yes 15:53:07 I can think of one person :) 15:53:50 :D 15:54:18 OK, I hope we can move forward on this, the repo has been blocked for some time already 15:54:30 thanks piotrowskim for taking this task 15:54:45 not a problem, thanks for help 15:55:49 #topic make Doug angry 15:55:57 https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/O7OapGM9RzWmk43r2auwbg.eReetOnraZdLGOztzcAVxm 15:55:59 :) 15:56:20 they had very nice beer 15:56:38 and thanks for the Sponsor 15:56:47 SUSE 15:57:28 mmm, that was good buffalo meatloaf 15:57:47 :) 15:57:48 And bison burgers 15:57:53 I didn't include the picture of me standing next to the life size metal gorilla statue 15:58:18 that's all from agenda and time is also almost over 15:58:31 thanks for joining 15:58:36 Thanks all 15:58:53 thanks 15:59:00 see you next week 15:59:05 thanks 15:59:08 #endmeeting