03:02:40 <VW> #startmeeting Large Deployments Team January 2016 Meeting
03:02:41 <openstack> Meeting started Fri Jan 22 03:02:40 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is VW. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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03:02:53 <VW> is it just you and I, mdorman?
03:03:07 <mdorman> possibly.  i told klindgren about it but not sure if he got the info
03:03:32 <mdorman> not sure about AU folks
03:04:03 <klindgren> oh snaps I be here
03:04:04 <VW> yeah, was hoping Sam was about
03:04:09 <VW> hee hee
03:04:42 <mdorman> yeah might just be us three then
03:04:53 <VW> #topic Neutron Work
03:04:54 <klindgren> I haven't seen sorinson on irc in a while
03:05:00 <VW> hmmm
03:05:40 <VW> will have to ask Tom how he'd doing
03:05:48 <VW> s/he'd/he's
03:06:10 <VW> anyway - how are things going with the Neutron stuff
03:06:51 <mdorman> we are getting close on the usages API extention, i think:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212955/   dbingham has been working on that a lot.
03:07:03 <mdorman> but the spec got approved and everything, so i still expect we’ll get it into mitaka
03:07:13 <klindgren> iirc someone from rackspace was working on it as well
03:07:38 <VW> It's very possible
03:07:45 * VW can't keep up with all the things now
03:07:52 <mdorman> yeah he’s been coordinating with a couple people over there
03:08:34 <mdorman> Brian Stajkowski
03:08:41 <VW> ah - yes - Brian
03:08:48 <VW> he manages our Neutron team
03:09:07 <VW> I'll make a note to catch up with him tomorrow on it
03:10:18 <klindgren> Carl has been working on the SPEC for the routed/segmented networks.  There has been a ton of back and forth on that thing.  But he messaged me the other day saying that he thinks that its at a pretty solid position now
03:10:33 <VW> That's good
03:10:46 <VW> I was chatting with some technical leaders from our private cloud side
03:10:48 <mdorman> i reread the current version of that last week and i feel like it’s in a better spot now too.   i think our needs/asks are accurately captured
03:11:08 <VW> that's a big piece to get Neturon and cells working in a way that is much more upstream :)
03:11:09 <mdorman> though it will still be a long time before anything really useful sees the light of day, i think.
03:11:22 <mdorman> cool
03:12:37 <VW> Cool any other Neutron/Network stuff to touch on?
03:13:02 <mdorman> not that i know of
03:13:35 <VW> #topic mid-cycle
03:13:49 <VW> so, niether of you are making it to the mid-cycle, correct?
03:13:57 <mdorman> right.
03:14:39 <VW> yeah, it's still not completely decided for me, but there are some things brewing
03:14:58 <klindgren> they have an LDT slot in the meetup
03:15:04 <klindgren> just not sure whos going to be running it
03:15:05 <klindgren> ?
03:15:24 <mdorman> sounds like belmiro is fairly involved in the planning
03:15:57 <VW> I'll have an engineer there.  Belmiro will be there
03:15:58 <VW> yeah
03:16:00 <VW> hee ehe
03:16:12 <VW> I think I'll end up going
03:16:18 <mdorman> cool
03:16:40 <klindgren> I thought it was sold out already
03:16:57 <VW> hmm
03:17:04 <VW> that poses a challenge
03:17:07 <VW> will follow up
03:17:27 <klindgren> I assume emails to Tom might smooth things out a bit :-)
03:17:38 <VW> let's hope
03:17:51 <VW> I've got Rackspace and Intel folks pushing for a fleet managment project and some of the inventory code public by Austin
03:18:06 <mdorman> good deal
03:18:11 <VW> unfortunately with two sets of leaders, it takes a little longer to make a decsion
03:18:17 <VW> otherwise, I'd be booked already
03:18:18 <VW> :)
03:18:36 <VW> But everyone wants to do some talking about it at the mid-cycle
03:18:50 <VW> hopefully get more traction than the CMDB stuff back in August
03:19:06 <mdorman> i would imagine it would since this is more than just vapor
03:19:32 <VW> :)
03:20:02 <VW> yeah, my hope is that pieces of inventory (and maybe provisioning) out by Austin with some folks (like your selves) jumping in to work
03:20:15 <VW> and then shoot for Resolver/automation services out by Barcelona
03:21:04 <VW> There is a big bug smash we are doing with Intel in early march, so I'm working on making some of that inlcude prepping code for public use
03:21:06 <VW> we'll see
03:21:13 <mdorman> yeah, something to shoot for at least
03:22:07 <VW> any burning topics you guys want to make sure are covered at the mid-cycle?
03:22:26 <klindgren> Side question - are their details of how the intel-rackspace lab is setup?  Cells? number of computes per cells? ect ect
03:22:54 <VW> There probably are - I'll have to get them.  I know they were shooting for 1000 node clusters
03:22:58 <VW> I don't believe they have cells
03:23:16 <mdorman> yeah i would not really make sense to deploy that with cells v1 at this point.
03:23:16 <VW> I'm hoping in the next couple of weeks, we'll start trying to stand up the fleet management stack with them
03:23:28 <klindgren> cool
03:23:36 <VW> to date, they have mainly been run by the Private Cloud folks, so sadly, I don't have a lot of direct knowledge on them
03:23:37 <VW> yet...
03:23:38 <VW> :)
03:24:06 <klindgren> So the only other thing that I can think about was how the cells patches stuff is going...
03:24:22 <VW> I'm behind on that
03:24:27 <klindgren> it seemed like it was on track - then got shot down due to lack of gate testing for cells v1?
03:24:28 <VW> is there stuff in motion since the summit
03:24:33 <VW> sight
03:24:35 <VW> sigh even
03:24:54 <klindgren> then matt R added some gate testing jobs for cells
03:25:07 <klindgren> but it seemed like that got voted down by other nova members
03:25:19 <mdorman> not much.  the few that we reviewed with mriedem more or less got rejected by nova
03:25:27 <mdorman> yeah, what kris said
03:25:30 <VW> blargh
03:25:53 <klindgren> cuz you know -multi cell v2 is "right around the corner"
03:26:00 <mdorman> i think that even if we were to do the effort to add the tests, it still wouldn’t have much support b/c there is no interest in doing anything on cells v1.
03:26:14 <VW> ok - at one point, I had asked Garbutt to try and get to the Ops meetup.  Not sure if he did, but if I get over there, I'll follow up with him
03:26:30 <mdorman> and there is potential for other changes not related to v1 could cause those tests to fail, and they don’t want to have to support making those pass.
03:26:33 <VW> yeah, but cells v2 is dragging
03:26:40 <mdorman> right.
03:27:06 <mdorman> yeah, i mean i understand both sides.   i kind of think a separate repo where we could maintain the patches separately might be a more effective route and a better use of time.
03:27:06 <VW> good old fashtioned crap sandwich
03:27:09 <mdorman> haha
03:27:36 <mdorman> i had kind of worked on pushing on some of that stuff during the weeks right after the summit, but since december haven’t really had bandwidth to do much with it.
03:28:46 <VW> yeah
03:29:17 <VW> may reach out to you for an offline summary mdorman - if I'm able to sit down and visit with John
03:29:44 <mdorman> so, i donno.  i wouldn’t be opposed to championing/working on a separte repo thing.  but would wnat to get some more input from other cells deployers to see if that would actually be valuable.
03:29:47 <mdorman> sure, that’s cool
03:31:15 <VW> #topic Other Business
03:31:20 <VW> anything else pressing?
03:32:19 <mdorman> i was goign to ask you if you had any more info in this fleet management sprint idea
03:32:22 <klindgren> Nothing from me - I htink like everyone else since the summit - I have been pretty much slammed
03:32:35 <mdorman> totally acceptable if it’s all still TBD
03:34:14 <VW> well, I jsut found out about the bug squash stuff in early march mdorman
03:34:26 <VW> so even if we don't actually pull folks together in one spot
03:34:37 <VW> then I think we have an oporrtunity to rally folks virtually
03:34:42 <VW> but let me dig
03:34:57 <VW> folks are on board for some focused pre-Austin work though
03:35:13 <VW> just trying to get two leadership teams to agree on things as a priority, etc
03:35:14 <VW> :D
03:35:38 <mdorman> alright, yeah that’s cool.  just wondering if we should still think about pulling together travel, but sounds like at this point likely not
03:36:03 <mdorman> we just got a new manager, so need to get stuff like this on a new radar
03:36:07 <VW> Give me two weeks and I'll know for sure
03:36:18 <VW> sorry - it's hurry up and wait
03:36:20 <VW> :\
03:36:54 <mdorman> yeah that’s np at all
03:37:04 <mdorman> nothing else for me
03:37:23 <VW> me either
03:37:38 <VW> thank you guys for hopping on
03:37:49 <VW> I'll try to reach out to Tom and Belmiro in the next couple of days
03:38:11 <mdorman> cool.  just reach out if there’s anything else we an do in the meantime
03:38:22 <VW> will doo
03:38:25 <VW> do even
03:38:51 <VW> see you guys in Austin if not before
03:38:58 * gfa late, reading the logs
03:39:10 * VW pauses
03:39:30 <VW> we still have time gfa - if you have anything
03:39:55 <gfa> no, i'm fine
03:39:57 <gfa> tnx
03:40:11 <VW> no problem
03:40:15 <VW> all is welll with you?
03:40:52 <gfa> kinda, i'm not doing openstack for the moment :-/
03:41:01 <VW> well that's no fun
03:41:04 <gfa> but wanted to follow close what others are doing
03:41:16 <gfa> and neutron
03:41:18 <VW> but we all understand day jobs gettin gin the way
03:42:58 <VW> alright, well unless anyone objects, I'll call the meeting good then
03:43:22 <gfa> np
03:43:40 <VW> alrighty then
03:43:44 <VW> #endmeeting