16:00:56 #startmeeting Large Deployments Team August 2016 Meeting 16:00:56 Meeting started Thu Aug 18 16:00:56 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is VW. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:57 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:01:00 The meeting name has been set to 'large_deployments_team_august_2016_meeting' 16:01:35 quick roll call. Who all is around for the LDT meeting? 16:03:13 klindgren is it just you and I? 16:04:50 I think so 16:06:22 o/ 16:06:39 hey there, mriedem 16:06:52 just listening in 16:06:57 no worries 16:07:02 this is likely to be short 16:07:06 only have a couple of things 16:07:13 #topic Glance work 16:07:38 I was hoping Belmiro would make it, but klindgren have you been in any more interactions with the Glance team? 16:08:01 I have not 16:08:31 hmm - OK. will have to follow up on that then before next Thursday 16:08:36 I basically haven't really had any time for community work. 16:08:44 in case we need to discuss it at the midcycle 16:08:50 understood klindgren 16:08:52 clouding is hard 16:08:57 Which glance work is this? Could we get a very quick recap. 16:09:28 sure doffm 16:10:00 some of it is around being able to disable/hide/depricate an image in such a way that only Nova is aware of it for rebuilds, rescues, etc 16:10:23 That is a super good idea. 16:10:24 so not private 16:10:26 but not public 16:10:28 protected! 16:10:29 but there are some links to blueprints and such we were discussing with the dev team in past meetings 16:10:32 let me find them 16:10:53 "public hidden" 16:10:58 hmm, 16:11:04 seems glance could just have a policy for this, 16:11:09 and a service user, like nova, could get the image 16:11:15 admin or owner or service 16:11:20 but the image wouldn't be public 16:13:16 some quota items and hierarchical project support 16:13:31 here is the logs from the june meeting doffm - where we recapped 16:13:36 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/LDT/June_2016 16:13:59 previous to that a subset of us had chatted directly with the devs 16:14:01 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-glance-and-ops-midcycle-sync 16:14:50 will give you a few minutes to review in case you have questions 16:15:24 VW: Thankyou. 16:16:21 my pleasure 16:18:51 IT seemed like their was some stuff that was in flight for some of our concerns 16:19:04 or atleast internal discussions in the glance team. 16:19:33 yeah klindgren - you are right 16:19:38 trying to find blue prints 16:20:32 community image spec 16:20:34 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271019/ 16:21:06 image life cycle story with Product WG 16:21:08 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327980/ 16:21:23 #action VW follow up with anyone in Product WG that comes to midcycle 16:25:12 alright anything else to discuss here? 16:25:17 I'll try do some follow up before next week 16:27:24 taking silence as "no" ;) 16:27:30 next topic 16:27:36 #topic OPs mid-cycle 16:27:45 any of you going to the mid-cycle next week? 16:27:49 I know klindgren isn't 16:28:10 yep - not I 16:29:21 We have a couple of time slots, though for LDT 16:29:46 what kinds of things would you all like to see the team dive into? 16:30:17 So if I was going to be there again - I was going to bring up that rabbitmq itself is being a gigantic pain in the ass 16:30:37 Most likely related to a change in liberty under oslo - about keeping exchange queues around for 10 minuts 16:30:52 which means each RPC message gets its own queue - which stays around for 10 minutes 16:31:02 but mainly the issue is the stats database 16:31:12 which is an actual issue with rabbitmq 16:32:50 ah - good stuff 16:33:10 as soon as I locate the etherpads for the meetup, I might get you to pre-seed with that, klindgren 16:33:53 aside from that, I think the only other things that was going to be hot topics for me this year was: 16:34:27 CI/CD how are you doing it. Especially the CD part. Seems like using jenkins as a task runner/deployer is not what its designed for. 16:34:58 What are you using to automate SOP's? using something like rundeck or the like 16:35:13 so people can click something and it follows a standard deployment type thing 16:35:36 Eventaully to get jenkins -> that thing to deploy stuffs 16:35:55 sounds good 16:36:00 will try to get some of that feedback 16:36:08 if nothing else, funnel it to the craton folks 16:36:08 bascially trying to get people out of the habbit of logging into boxes or running local ansible commands to do stuff in the env 16:36:15 and use a standard entry point 16:36:19 indeed 16:36:47 Then cells v1 -> cells v2 migration 16:36:51 who has done it? 16:36:58 or looked at doing it 16:37:10 or does cells v2 support more than one cell? 16:37:14 well, seeing how it's likely to be O before the full multi-cell support is in... 16:37:34 I thought that was suppose to land in newton 16:38:49 Was also going to see if anyone had looked at the segmented network stuff. Apparently its mostly done in newton 16:39:45 Outside of that - I dont think I had anything else. 16:40:17 the last update I got from our devs, was that it "could" be in Newton, klindgren 16:40:30 but sean d. will be at the mid-cycle 16:40:36 so I'll find out about that and let LDT know 16:41:01 my money is on O, though because, well, software... 16:44:44 yea - well Carl reached out to me and asked if I wanted to see a demo of it 16:44:55 so I assumed based upon that it was mostly done 16:45:05 but again - busy - so I haven't replied 16:45:55 gotcha 16:48:42 I think thats all I was going to bring up at the ops meetup 16:49:28 or atleast thats all that I can remember right now 16:50:53 cool 16:51:04 well if that is the case, I may call this a few minutes early 16:51:08 but just to be safe 16:51:15 #topic Other Business 16:52:30 Any one else having any new issues or areas of concern? 16:53:03 for me - it's mainly fretting over Cells V2 16:55:00 I'll try to round up a new list of concerns in NYC too, klindgren 16:55:11 so we can work on them up until and during Barcelona 16:55:45 yea 16:55:57 Are you going to be there at Barcelona? 16:56:10 I am 16:56:19 yourself? 16:56:22 I am hoping to be 16:56:46 We have a new manager - so tryingto see if I can get that approved or not. 16:58:25 gotcah 16:58:29 gotcha even 16:58:34 I'll keep my fingers crossed 16:58:38 OK, well one more action 16:58:56 #action VW get stuff organized for mid-cycle 16:59:46 thanks for hanging around folks 16:59:54 #endmeeting