14:59:01 #startmeeting kuryr 14:59:02 Meeting started Mon Aug 31 14:59:01 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gsagie_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:59:03 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:59:05 The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' 14:59:29 o/ 14:59:34 o/ 14:59:39 hi, meanwhile here 14:59:43 tfukushima: long time no see 14:59:51 o/ 14:59:52 I had good time. 14:59:54 tfukushima: wb :) 15:00:23 o/ 15:00:31 hi daneyon 15:00:34 #topic vif-binding-unbinding 15:00:38 :-) 15:00:45 gsaigie: Thanks. 15:01:02 i will press the commands because apuimedo might need to leave in the middle 15:01:15 thanks for that gsagie_ ;-) 15:01:16 apuimedo: gsagie_ : irenab : I was on long holiday from last 4 days, will join office tomorrow 15:01:19 diga, do you have any update where things are standing? do you think we might have something working for the virtual sprint? 15:01:24 forgot to update you guys 15:01:59 np diga, hope you had fun. 15:02:20 I have almost done all the suggested changes, will send that patch for review tomorrow 15:02:37 next week is the virtual sprint, i think the VIF binding is critical point and we will have to start from where you finish at that point and work on that 15:02:38 diga: thanks diga 15:02:42 ok cool 15:03:01 apuimedo: gsagie_ : welcome 15:03:02 #action diga to send the vif binding patch with the correnctions on September 1st 15:03:12 +1 15:03:14 is there any open issues there? 15:03:21 hi 15:03:21 or something that needs help? 15:03:23 can someone add a link to the vif binding review? 15:03:26 hi banix ! 15:03:29 sorry for being late …. 15:03:41 not yet, but If I need help, will let know for sure 15:03:58 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214002/ - vif binding unbinding 15:04:09 I noticed the reference to executables there 15:04:33 #action diga, gsagie keep track on the generic VIF binding in Nova 15:04:34 wasn’t a second approach being advocated by nova people? have we considered that. just raising the question 15:04:38 gsagie_ thanks 15:04:52 gsagie_: +1 15:05:04 banix: yeah we are trying to keep track with the work Nova has done on that and we will try to combine or leverage that here 15:05:29 gsagie_: great 15:05:41 banix: i will look at that code this week so we will have some inputs 15:05:58 anything else on that? 15:06:16 nothing from my side 15:06:27 #topic ipam 15:06:51 Taku, i guess you didn't have chance to look at that yet 15:07:06 No, I didn't. 15:07:16 Could you give me a bit of its context? 15:07:17 #link ipam https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kuryr/+spec/ipam 15:07:22 We discussed this approach with apuimedo, it looks right direction 15:07:34 basically from what i understood we want to save on creating subnets 15:07:42 thanks for banix for mentioning it at some review 15:08:09 for every EndPoint added, but i think that we need to figure what is the common configuration of addresses for containers 15:08:35 daneyon: maybe you can help with this, i assume its common that addresses on the same network are from the same CIDR 15:08:38 tfukushima: if you want, I can contribute to this tomorrow onwards 15:08:42 gsagie_: what do you mean? 15:08:54 that depends on the COE 15:09:03 lets finish this before our sprint 15:09:15 the COE can pass cidr when creating endpoints 15:09:38 apuimedo: ahh ok, i thought we will try to deduct that ourselfs 15:10:01 because we can also try to do this if no CIDR is supplied 15:10:04 gsagie_: we can be configured to use some specific pool too 15:10:04 gsagie_ I'm at capacity until I get the Magnum container networking model implemented... ~ 4 weeks. I will help review though. 15:10:11 if no cidr is supplied 15:10:16 gsagie_: in case cidr is not provies, it should grab from the pool 15:10:52 ok make sense 15:11:19 #action taku sync up on ipam plan and update create endpoint 15:11:34 anything else needed there? 15:12:09 Endpoint within a coe such as k8s is implemented differently than endpoint within libnetwork 15:12:57 gotta go, I'll check the updates later 15:13:07 bye apuimedo! 15:13:24 daneyon : can you explain more? 15:13:26 daneyon: I assume a k8s driver could pass CIDRs to libnetwork when creating pods 15:13:33 but I gotta go 15:13:40 talk to you all later 15:13:44 thanks for joining 15:14:17 diga: I'm catching up with it and let me see how I can work on it. I'm not sure if it's efficient to share the same task with others, especially you have your own now. 15:14:26 daneyon: ? 15:14:41 gsagie_ 1 sec 15:15:08 well, k8s uses pods ( a single net ns for multiple containers) 15:15:34 when you look at the endpoint code in k8s and libnetwork, they are simply different 15:15:57 have you looked at how ipam is implemented in weave's libnetwork driver? 15:16:08 on another note, i will just update that i have a spec proposed to Neutron to allow adding tags to resources, this will help us map Docker Id's to Neutron Id's and everything that we needed at that end 15:16:13 please review if you have time 15:16:24 #link add tags to resources - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216021/ 15:17:05 * irenab need to go, will catch up later 15:17:16 apuimedo we will need to track if and how k8s will integrate with libnet. As I mentioned in the reviews of the magnum net spec, k8s and libnetwork are not on the same path. That does not mean they can;t be, but it's up to the k8s community 15:17:23 gsagie_: note that this will need a counterpart on openstack client side but that can come later 15:17:24 #link https://github.com/weaveworks/weave/blob/master/docs/ipam.md 15:18:04 also updated Kuryr spec in Neutron repo, please also review if you have time, daneyon, dane_leblanc, irena , thanks for the review, please also forward it to more people so we can more comments 15:18:19 thx tfukushima for providing a link. I think that's a good reference model for a libnetwork remote driver ipam. 15:18:22 #link Kuryr Neutron spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213490/ 15:19:12 daneyon: I haven't read through it though. 15:19:58 sorry everyone, got disconnected 15:20:03 saw my links to the specs? 15:20:10 y 15:20:13 okie 15:20:15 tfukushima let me provide another link. The link you provided is good for how weave does ipam. I will provide a link on how weave's remote libnetwork driver implements ipam. 15:20:34 #link https://github.com/weaveworks/docker-plugin/blob/master/plugin/driver/ipam.go 15:21:01 thanks for the link 15:21:29 at the surface, I think kuryr could follow a similar pattern. Instead of Weave's IPAM, we would leverage the Neutron dhcp-agent 15:22:00 gsagie__ yw 15:22:01 and note that we now have a plugable ipam in neutron …. 15:22:21 yeah thats good point banix 15:22:46 so now with Kuryr you could also have pluggable IPAM to your containers 15:23:45 anything else on that topic? lets check that link and edit the IPAM blue print if needed 15:24:35 #action look at weave IPAM and see if we can leverage this approach 15:24:43 sounds good 15:24:55 #topic configuration management 15:25:04 banix, irenab: any update on that? 15:25:18 i saw irenab added a blue print for that 15:25:36 banix: nothing on my side; just got back from a week off. will focus on it this week 15:25:36 #link configuration management blue print https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kuryr/+spec/kuryr-config 15:25:54 will be in touch with irenab 15:25:57 #action banix configuration management blue print 15:26:14 ok great, thanks band and welcome back :) 15:26:17 banix 15:26:32 thanks :) 15:26:51 anyone have anything to add for configuration management? 15:27:13 not a crowded meeting today :) 15:27:24 The configuration management could be a dependency of the IPAM as it's described in the bp of it. 15:27:38 Meanwhile I can just mock the configuration though. 15:28:57 tfukushima: yeah its a good point, if you have time please keep an eye on that work to see that it also fits everything needed in IPAM 15:29:13 sorry guys, getting disconnected due to travelling 15:29:28 gsagie__: Ok. 15:29:30 #topic magnum-kuryr integration 15:29:36 diga: np 15:29:54 i think the bot is gone as well.. 15:30:19 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-kuryr 15:30:38 daneyon: we are trying to keep updated with the ether pad, i saw you made some good comments on the spec and i sent an updated version today with responses 15:31:15 gsagie__ great 15:31:22 please continue to keep an eye on the ep 15:31:32 We are also simultaneously keeping track of some important specs and work in Neutron that are needed for Kuryr and Magnum use cases, like the trunk ports and tags to resources 15:31:44 I have an action to start cleaning up the ep over the next week 15:32:22 daneyon: is there any urgent open issue that you see is not being addressed right now? (or any other use case for that matter) 15:32:35 gsagie__ maybe you and i can sync offline in the next week to create a formalized integration plan. 15:32:51 gsagie__ no, not atm 15:33:03 daneyon: sure that would be great, this needs it time. ping me when you have a preferred dat/time 15:33:06 day 15:33:16 gsagie__ will do 15:33:46 #action gsagie meet with daneyon to discuss integration plan and open issues with kuryr-magnum integration 15:34:20 #action daneyon will clean the magnum-kuryr etherpad 15:34:39 #topic virtual sprint 15:35:12 so, next week we are going to have a virtual sprint 8,9/9 who is planning to attend? 15:35:22 even if partially 15:35:42 I definitely will. 15:36:10 o/ 15:36:14 Oh, but which timezone? 15:36:18 tfukushima: ok great :) we will talk about the time zone 15:36:29 gsagie__ can you provide some background on a virtual sprint? 15:37:10 i plan to attend 15:37:22 daneyon: its simply very close process to the mid-cycle sprints, we meet for 2-3 days and iterate on agenda of tasks to finish some work together 15:37:42 so we can talk online here and move things faster 15:38:15 gsagie__: just a question - what is our milestone last date for Liberty release 15:38:31 gsagie__ where is the meeting at? 15:38:51 daneyon: we will meet at #openstack-neutron and maybe choose a different channel 15:39:24 gsagie__ Oh... I thought maybe it was in person 15:39:28 got it, thx 15:39:36 for the timezone, we will probably need to do it in two time zones in parallel and sync together around this time or some time earlier for Taku 15:39:46 gsagie__: hangout or anything like that? or simply conference call 15:39:53 daneyon: it would be ideal if we could do it in person, but everyone are in different places :) 15:40:08 i can set a conference call 15:40:23 set up that is 15:40:43 banix: please do :) we can decide how its going 15:40:48 gsagie__ when you have the logistics finalized for the sprint, can you send them out on the ML? 15:40:54 gsagie__: sounds good. sure 15:42:02 daneyon: sure will, just need to set the agenda and decide with everyone how to do it with different time zones 15:42:52 but i think we can do it in two time zones and sync in the middle 15:43:05 anyone have any special request/idea for the agenda? 15:44:01 gsagie__: Taku & my zone difference is just 3 hrs so I request to arrange meetup accordingly 15:44:10 I am fine with EU zone also 15:44:45 diga: sure, you are also close to me and apuimedo and ire nab, so we work something that will be good for everyone 15:44:46 gsagie__ maybe take an action for everyone to think of agenda items for next week. Maybe create an ep that people can add their agenda ideas too? 15:45:04 daneyon: yeah good idea, will do that and send to the ML 15:45:05 yes 15:45:46 gsagie__ I have some ideas for agenda, I would just rather add them to an ep. 15:46:06 we will close the agenda items ending this week when we see the progress, probably going to be around closing any gaps to the VIF binding and starting containerising plugins 15:46:21 daneyon: will send an update today 15:46:29 gsagie__ thx 15:47:35 #action gsagie start etherpad for virtual sprint agenda, send details to ML , finalise timezones and sync up meetings time with all the participates 15:47:48 #action banix update conference call for virtual sprint 15:47:57 ok, everyone 15:48:01 #topic open discussion 15:48:28 thanks all for joining !! :) 15:48:39 thanks all 15:48:51 Thank you. 15:49:26 Thanks all 15:49:51 and daneyon, please email me when you want to do the offline integration plan 15:50:05 good day/night everyone! 15:50:14 gsagie__ will do. I'll touch base with you at the end of the week. 15:50:22 k, thanks 15:50:27 bye 15:50:44 thank you all ! Good Night! 15:56:19 gsagie__: I think we are running our of time 15:56:39 diga: meeting has ended :) 15:56:44 okk 15:56:53 the bot is just not working, so i can't do end meeting 15:56:56 #end meeting 15:57:01 okk 15:57:06 #endmeeting 16:00:42 ohai 16:01:01 hello 16:01:03 hi 16:01:08 hi 16:01:09 time for meeting 16:01:26 Sukhdev: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. 16:01:41 Sukhdev: the bot not working 16:02:03 banix: oh really? any work arounds? 16:02:08 so the previous endmeeting has not been done 16:02:19 #endmeeting