14:02:15 <mnasiadka> #startmeeting kolla
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14:02:18 <mnasiadka> #topic rollcall
14:02:45 <frickler> o/
14:02:50 <mmalchuk> \o
14:02:57 <mattcrees> o/
14:03:01 <jovial> \o
14:03:06 <mhiner> o/
14:03:38 <SvenKieske> o/
14:04:09 <mnasiadka> o/
14:06:32 <mnasiadka> #topic agenda
14:06:32 <mnasiadka> * Announcements
14:06:32 <mnasiadka> * CI status
14:06:32 <mnasiadka> * Release tasks
14:06:32 <mnasiadka> * Regular stable releases (first meeting in a month)
14:06:33 <mnasiadka> * Current cycle planning
14:06:33 <mnasiadka> * Additional agenda (from whiteboard)
14:06:35 <mnasiadka> * Open discussion
14:06:36 <mnasiadka> #topic Announcements
14:06:58 <mnasiadka> Kolla vPTG is coming, I have reserved the slots for Mon/Tue (Kolla/Kolla-Ansible) and Thu for Kayobe
14:07:23 <mnasiadka> this time in official PTG slots, I don't want to hear out again that we're using conflicting slots :)
14:07:33 <mnasiadka> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/kolla-caracal-ptg
14:07:37 <mnasiadka> Etherpad link ^^
14:07:44 <mnasiadka> sign up, add topics, more the merrier
14:08:07 <mmalchuk> Caracal?
14:08:55 <mmalchuk> https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/kolla-dalmatian-ptg ?
14:09:43 <opendevreview> Michal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla master: Add CADF audit support  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/912682
14:09:55 <mnasiadka> ah sorry
14:10:02 <mnasiadka> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/kolla-dalmatian-ptg
14:10:04 <mnasiadka> thanks mmalchuk :)
14:10:10 <mnasiadka> tired already today ;-)
14:10:17 <mnasiadka> #topic CI status
14:10:24 <mnasiadka> ipv6 broke with RMQ 3.13
14:10:57 <mnasiadka> we're getting closer to mark cephadm jobs as voting, the main failure source now is mariadb timeouts between nodes
14:11:07 <frickler> did you check whether ubuntu arm64 works now?
14:11:07 <mnasiadka> any other CI issues?
14:11:17 <frickler> octavia also broken
14:11:17 <mnasiadka> frickler: not yet, but that's on my list
14:11:40 <mnasiadka> yes, I had an idea how to fix Octavia, we should get that to voting also when it's fixed
14:11:50 <mnasiadka> we're not really good in looking at non voting jobs :)
14:11:57 <frickler> and I didn't look at the a-c-o issue mentioned earlier yet
14:13:58 <mnasiadka> I think that's fixed already, we might want to check if our version limit needs to be bumped in requirements.yml
14:14:17 <mnasiadka> #topic Release tasks
14:14:19 <SvenKieske> I have a recheck running for that currently: https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/status#912715
14:14:21 <mnasiadka> Cycle highlights done
14:14:44 <mnasiadka> I don't think there's anything to be done - we should switch to 2024.1 UCA and RDO soon
14:15:06 <mnasiadka> I started some exploratory work on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS - but I don't think we should merge it this cycle
14:15:17 <mnasiadka> or maybe merge it in addition to 22.04
14:15:34 <mnasiadka> since it's a SLURP release - we'd want people to upgrade to C and then move to 24.04 ideally
14:15:57 <frickler> depends a bit on who releases faster, we or canonical ;)
14:16:11 <opendevreview> Merged openstack/kayobe master: Fix: configure etc-hosts for overcloud group  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/907306
14:16:17 <mmalchuk> 22.04 is still LTS do we need 24.04 now?
14:16:26 <frickler> but I think we could backport support later
14:16:33 <frickler> 24.04 isn't out yet
14:16:39 <mnasiadka> but will be soon
14:16:49 <mnasiadka> April 2024
14:16:52 <mmalchuk> and we move?
14:17:15 <mnasiadka> My idea is to support both 22.04 and 24.04 in C
14:17:18 <mnasiadka> and then only 24.04 in D
14:17:20 <mmalchuk> what in support matrix?
14:17:38 <mmalchuk> ok then
14:17:55 <SvenKieske> seems like a good idead to ease the transition
14:18:06 <mmalchuk> agree
14:18:12 <opendevreview> Michal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla master: Add CADF audit support  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/912682
14:20:18 <mnasiadka> good that we agree :)
14:20:50 <mnasiadka> if we don't meet the C release deadline - we add that in D as default and backport as additional in C (we did that multiple times)
14:21:04 <mnasiadka> #topic Current cycle planning
14:22:14 <opendevreview> Michal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla master: Add CADF audit support  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/912682
14:22:44 <mnasiadka> So, Octavia breakage needs to be fixed, RMQ 3.13 ipv6 bug raised on RMQ side, it's in progress
14:22:53 <mnasiadka> Any other current priorities that need reviews?
14:23:10 <opendevreview> Matt Crees proposed openstack/kayobe master: CI: Only migrate RMQ queues during SLURP  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/912778
14:23:34 <SvenKieske> this is also related to some rmq improvements, it just needs core reviews now: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/900528
14:24:19 <jovial> Would be good to get some eyes on the kayobe podman support: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/909686. I've broken it at the moment, but will push a fix shortly.
14:24:41 <kevko> \o
14:26:43 <opendevreview> Matt Crees proposed openstack/kayobe master: CI: Only migrate RMQ queues during SLURP  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/912778
14:28:18 <opendevreview> Matt Crees proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: Only migrate RMQ queues during SLURP  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/909971
14:28:39 <opendevreview> Will Szumski proposed openstack/kayobe master: Support configuring persistent systemd journal  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/909685
14:30:23 <opendevreview> Matt Crees proposed openstack/kayobe stable/2023.2: Fix: configure etc-hosts for overcloud group  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/908262
14:30:59 <opendevreview> Will Szumski proposed openstack/kayobe master: Add podman support  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/909686
14:31:06 <mnasiadka> ok then
14:31:20 <opendevreview> Matt Crees proposed openstack/kayobe stable/2023.1: Fix: configure etc-hosts for overcloud group  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/908263
14:31:27 <mnasiadka> frickler: should we +w the rabbitmq 3.13 kolla-ansible patch? that's only adding feature flags, not really breaking anything that is not broken now :)
14:31:52 <mnasiadka> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/911094
14:33:24 <mnasiadka> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/912734 - CI patch that uses bobcat container for ipv6 scenario
14:33:28 <mnasiadka> seems to pass
14:33:37 <frickler> ack
14:34:17 <mnasiadka> ok then
14:34:33 <mnasiadka> #topic Additional agenda (from whiteboard)
14:35:00 <mnasiadka> (mhiner) Please review:
14:35:00 <mnasiadka> Pointers on where and how to create documentation for ce migration?
14:35:00 <mnasiadka> action option introduction to kolla_container_facts: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/911417
14:35:00 <mnasiadka> docker-py version bump: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collection-kolla/+/910751
14:35:00 <mnasiadka> transition to high-level docker api: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/908295
14:35:55 <mnasiadka> mhiner: https://docs.openstack.org/kolla-ansible/latest/admin/index.html - somewhere around advanced configuration or a separate topic?
14:36:35 <mhiner> advanced config sounds good
14:37:04 <mhiner> additionally, I would like to hear your opinion in transitioning to high level Docker api included in this patch: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/911417
14:38:00 <mhiner> imo, the patch should be focused just on adding 'action' option to the module
14:40:08 <mnasiadka> looks ok, reviewed, will keep that on my radar
14:40:33 <mnasiadka> 908295 is failing, try rechecking - that's probably tooz 6.x breakage and we already pinned
14:41:06 <mnasiadka> Next one:
14:41:09 <mnasiadka> (r-krcek) Please review
14:41:09 <mnasiadka> Split ipv4 and ipv6 systemctl config: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/905831
14:41:50 <mhiner> this issue from r-krcek was talked about last week
14:42:34 <mnasiadka> right, just looking at it
14:42:36 <mnasiadka> should be ok now
14:42:45 <SvenKieske> I don't know if this is a leftover, but there where new questions risen. maybe mnasiadka can reply on the change
14:42:53 <mnasiadka> added RP+1
14:42:54 <SvenKieske> raised*
14:42:58 <mnasiadka> will have a in-depth look
14:43:02 <SvenKieske> ty :)
14:43:31 <mnasiadka> (mattcrees): OpenSearch support for CloudKitty. Do we need to maintain Elasticsearch support too, or is this patch good to go? https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/898555
14:43:41 <mnasiadka> mattcrees: basically we have External Elasticsearch support
14:43:46 <mnasiadka> we haven't deprecated it
14:43:53 <mnasiadka> do we need to keep it - I have no clue
14:44:09 <mnasiadka> But I would assume that it would need a proper deprecation notice before we stop supporting it
14:44:57 <mnasiadka> Opinions anyone?
14:46:02 <mnasiadka> So I assume external Elasticsearch support needs to stay
14:46:06 <mnasiadka> #topic Open discussion
14:46:12 <mnasiadka> time for open questions now :)
14:46:22 <opendevreview> Michal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla master: Add CADF audit support  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/912682
14:46:30 <SvenKieske> we actually had a question about external elasticsearch support recently, so at least some interest is there
14:46:48 <frickler> just mentioning that the TC election is going on, please vote if you haven't yet
14:46:59 <SvenKieske> yeah I need to do that still :)
14:47:18 <SvenKieske> well some begging for reviews I guess: so the rmq changes from above need core approval: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/900528
14:48:03 <SvenKieske> my doc fix regarding --limit option would also be nice, that's rather quick I guess: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/911082
14:49:05 <kevko> frickler: link ? :)
14:49:25 <SvenKieske> I would also like opinions on this (it's also rather small) making redis activation conditional on octavia jobboard: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/906904
14:49:38 <frickler> kevko: you should have received a mail if you registered your address
14:50:03 <SvenKieske> kevko: link to TC election? you should have a personal unique link in your mail, so no link to share :)
14:50:09 <frickler> kevko: if not, check https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/message/PXG7D3AUTFDOITTTLMJJHPUTXEHNMCMB/
14:50:42 <SvenKieske> election is ongoing until 20th of march afaik, so still some time to register :)
14:51:14 <kevko> SvenKieske: well, I have tons of email :D
14:53:39 <SvenKieske> the subject line should be: "Poll: OpenStack 2024.2 Cycle Technical Committee Election Poll"
14:53:56 <SvenKieske> I received it on 7 Mar 2024
14:54:30 <SvenKieske> it's from cornell.edu domain, because their voting system is used, which might look like spam to you :D
14:55:23 <kevko> yep i have it thanks
14:55:30 <mnasiadka> SvenKieske: problem is, if you enable redis - you get coordination in most of services based on redis - I prefer this to be proper decision (because some people enable etcd and get coordination using etcd, and when you enable redis on top of that - it all gets reconfigured to use redis)
14:56:08 <kevko> mnasiadka: logic can be rewritten :)
14:56:23 <SvenKieske> mhm, but jobboard only works with redis right? so maybe add a check that these don't conflict then?
14:56:46 <mnasiadka> I don't know, propose something that will not break anybody :)
14:56:50 <mnasiadka> ok, let's finish for today
14:56:52 <mnasiadka> #endmeeting