14:00:01 <mnasiadka> #startmeeting kolla
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14:00:04 <mnasiadka> #topic rollcall
14:00:04 <mnasiadka> o/
14:00:07 <mmalchuk> \o
14:00:10 <bbezak> [o]
14:00:32 <mhiner> o/
14:01:20 <ebbex> o/
14:02:17 <frickler> \o
14:03:16 <mnasiadka> #topic agenda
14:03:16 <mnasiadka> * CI status
14:03:16 <mnasiadka> * Release tasks
14:03:16 <mnasiadka> * Regular stable releases (first meeting in a month)
14:03:16 <mnasiadka> * Current cycle planning
14:03:18 <mnasiadka> * Additional agenda (from whiteboard)
14:03:18 <mnasiadka> * Open discussion
14:03:20 <mnasiadka> #topic CI Status
14:03:36 <mnasiadka> CI seems green
14:03:39 <mnasiadka> #topic Release tasks
14:04:01 <mnasiadka> R-1 week
14:04:31 <mnasiadka> In theory we should be prepared to cut stable branch and RCs, but it would be good to try to get the podman support in.
14:04:57 <mnasiadka> #topic Current cycle planning
14:05:17 <mnasiadka> So, current cycle is Antelope still, there are some podman related patches that we could try to get in
14:05:41 <mnasiadka> https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:kolla-podman
14:06:45 <mnasiadka> What I'm looking for is a CI job testing the podman deployment and upgrade on debian/rocky/ubuntu (ideally aarch64) as well
14:07:01 <mnasiadka> mhiner: ihalomi - is that somewhere?
14:07:18 <mhiner> here: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/865182/12
14:08:23 <mnasiadka> this is only testing docker - can't see any new CI jobs?
14:09:52 <mhiner> yes, now it deals just with adding the option to run on podman
14:10:22 <mnasiadka> right, so we would need to define new CI jobs, if you need help with that - I can have a look
14:11:11 <mhiner> that would be great, thanks
14:11:31 <mnasiadka> ok, will do
14:12:00 <mnasiadka> looking at the whiteboard, but not seeing any other candidates for squeezing in
14:12:38 <mnasiadka> So, the next PTG is approaching - 27-31 Mar 2023
14:12:50 <mnasiadka> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/kolla-bobcat-ptg
14:12:55 <mnasiadka> That's the PTG planning etherpad
14:13:11 <mnasiadka> I've penciled in three sessions
14:13:14 <mnasiadka> Monday - 13.00 - 17.00 UTC (general, Kolla and Kolla-Ansible)
14:13:14 <mnasiadka> Tuesday - 13.00 - 15.00 UTC (Kolla-Ansible)
14:13:14 <mnasiadka> Thursday - 13.00 - 15.00 UTC (Kayobe)
14:13:57 <mnasiadka> Last time we finished Kolla & Kolla-Ansible in one day, so I think we could use the second day to invite operators (similar to the operator hour last PTG)
14:14:03 <mnasiadka> Any comments?
14:15:01 <opendevreview> Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix OpenStack exporter scrape with internal TLS & FQDN  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/877483
14:15:58 <bbezak> I think it is a good idea
14:16:02 <mnasiadka> Ok, seems it fits for everyone
14:17:05 <mnasiadka> #topic Additional agenda (from whiteboard)
14:17:20 <mnasiadka> k.yarovoy - kolla-build transition to DockerClient, zuul gives build errors for some jobs. Can someone please take a look at it? https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/825786
14:17:41 <mnasiadka> added RP+1 on this one, because that's from the podman lot
14:17:50 <mnasiadka> will try to have a look, if others can - then it would be nice
14:18:13 <mnasiadka> this patch would also need some CI jobs testing podman builds
14:18:33 <mnasiadka> Next one
14:18:34 <mnasiadka> (mnasiadka) - Docker Hub no more
14:19:03 <mnasiadka> So, Docker Hub is going to drop Free Teams support - that means more or less Kolla images will get removed in 30+ days
14:19:37 <mnasiadka> We could apply for free account for open source teams - but that would require us to put that we support solely Docker and Docker Desktop in README - if I remember correctly
14:20:06 <mnasiadka> #link https://www.docker.com/community/open-source/application/
14:20:48 <mmalchuk> how can we support desktop version?)
14:20:56 <ebbex> or switch to quay.io then?
14:21:17 <mnasiadka> even if we would get this - it's only for a year
14:21:20 <mmalchuk> +1 for switch
14:21:29 <mnasiadka> well, we switched to quay.io long time ago
14:21:37 <mnasiadka> by default kolla-ansible fetches images from quay
14:21:38 <bbezak> ghcr as a backup?
14:21:41 <mmalchuk> completely switch
14:21:52 <mmalchuk> remove dockerhub images
14:22:06 <mnasiadka> bbezak: yes, that was my idea - to switch to GHCR or something else as a backup
14:22:30 <mmalchuk> ghcr have free account?
14:22:31 <mnasiadka> ok then - let's re-discuss this on the PTG (if anything new arises) and implement
14:22:36 <mnasiadka> mmalchuk: yes
14:22:57 <opendevreview> Verification of a change to openstack/kolla-ansible stable/yoga failed: Use loadbalancer to connect to etcd  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/874402
14:23:12 <mmalchuk> think it limited
14:23:31 <mmalchuk> 500MB
14:23:37 <mmalchuk> storage)))
14:23:52 <frickler> we could also consider to stop publishing images completely. deployments should learn to build their own anyway
14:24:09 <mmalchuk> good idea!
14:24:16 <mnasiadka> the limit is only for private repositories on GHCR
14:24:50 <mnasiadka> frickler: well, we've been there multiple times - yes, we encourage, but I don't think we should build the images in CI every time :)
14:25:10 <mnasiadka> that's going to be a flakey experience at least
14:25:30 <frickler> for CI maybe we can use the opendev registry
14:26:28 <mnasiadka> I think the easy part now, is to remove the publish jobs and credentials for Docker Hub - if we stop publishing to Quay.io - there's going to be more chaos than anything (for operators using those images)
14:26:52 <mnasiadka> We can discuss on the PTG (again) if we want to stop publishing at all, but it needs to be correctly communicated
14:27:32 <mnasiadka> Feel free to add the topic to PTG etherpad
14:27:57 <frickler> ok
14:28:45 <mnasiadka> Ok then, moving to Open Discussion
14:29:11 <mnasiadka> #topic Open discussion
14:29:17 <mnasiadka> Anything? Anybody?
14:29:45 <frickler> does stackhpc publish public images? or anyone else other than osism?
14:30:53 <opendevreview> Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/yoga: Add OpenSearch  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/875729
14:31:23 <mnasiadka> frickler: stackhpc doesn't
14:32:02 <frickler> also, kind of related, seeing https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/877346 I wondered whether we should drop docker mentions in the readme and replace with generic "container" wording
14:33:47 <mnasiadka> might be
14:35:32 <mhiner> maybe also rename kolla_docker to kolla_container?
14:37:25 <mnasiadka> we might think about it, but first let's get CI jobs validating podman ;-)
14:37:32 <mnasiadka> ok, thanks for coming!
14:37:36 <mnasiadka> #endmeeting