14:00:50 <mnasiadka> #startmeeting kolla
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14:00:53 <mnasiadka> #topic rollcall
14:00:55 <mnasiadka> o/
14:00:58 <mmalchuk> \o
14:01:16 <wuchunyang> o/
14:01:35 <frickler> \o
14:01:38 <scottsol> O/
14:01:39 <Fl1nt> o/
14:03:03 <mnasiadka> #topic agenda
14:03:03 <mnasiadka> * CI status
14:03:03 <mnasiadka> * Release tasks
14:03:03 <mnasiadka> * Regular stable releases (first meeting in a month)
14:03:03 <mnasiadka> * Current cycle planning
14:03:04 <mnasiadka> * Additional agenda (from whiteboard)
14:03:04 <mnasiadka> * Open discussion
14:03:08 <mnasiadka> #topic CI Status
14:03:30 <mnasiadka> Well, I've seen some openstacksdk related breakage in kolla build today, will put it in the dashboard
14:04:10 <kevko> hi
14:04:25 <mnasiadka> But apart that - I think we're fine-ish
14:04:29 <mnasiadka> #topic Release tasks
14:04:44 <mnasiadka> It's cycle highlights week, any idea what should we put in there?
14:05:50 <mnasiadka> Seems the systemd patch did not get any reno, so we should followup.
14:07:34 <mnasiadka> So maybe let's not post any, since there are no proposals ;-)
14:08:41 <mmalchuk> great changes without reno... lol)
14:09:22 <mnasiadka> it's been split into multiple patches
14:09:43 <mnasiadka> and somehow got lost I guess
14:09:49 <mmalchuk> so reno shoule be another one patch
14:09:56 <mnasiadka> thank you mr obvious
14:10:03 <mmalchuk> np
14:10:19 <mnasiadka> #topic Regular stable releases
14:10:26 <mnasiadka> Done by bbezak, thanks
14:10:31 <mnasiadka> #topic Current cycle planning
14:10:36 <mmalchuk> lets find a thechnical writer
14:11:09 <mnasiadka> So, did anybody have time to look into the Let's Encrypt patch?
14:11:50 <mnasiadka> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/741340
14:11:58 <mnasiadka> it's in merge conflict, I'll rebase it after the meeting
14:12:10 <mnasiadka> and let's try to review it in coming weeks
14:12:46 <kevko> still not :/
14:12:48 <mmalchuk> xl size(
14:13:06 <mnasiadka> isn't xl what we just like?
14:13:13 <opendevreview> Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: [Doc] update REAMDE.rst  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/874429
14:13:17 <kevko> i love xl patches :)
14:13:50 <mnasiadka> yeah, let's just review how it is now and try to push fixes to get it over the line
14:13:57 <mnasiadka> (if needed)
14:15:25 <mnasiadka> A small reminder, PTG date has been set for the end of March (27th-31st)
14:15:39 <mnasiadka> I'll post the etherpad for that and send a mail to the ML with a reminder
14:16:02 <mnasiadka> #topic Additional agenda
14:16:03 <mmalchuk> kevko whats about medium size but in kayobe?)
14:16:12 <mnasiadka> mmalchuk: kevko is not a kayobe core
14:16:17 <kevko> i am not
14:16:26 <mnasiadka> and I don't think he uses/is familiar with Kayobe
14:16:31 <mmalchuk> kayobe lack of reviewers at all
14:16:55 <kevko> well, we want to start or let's say try kayobe soon
14:17:24 <mnasiadka> we can speak about Kayobe situation on the PTG and see if we find a way to make it better
14:17:46 <mnasiadka> So - additional agenda from me - Zun does not work with Docker 23.0
14:17:48 <kevko> can i try kayobee against vm in openstack ? some virtual ipmi or whatever ? (just asking)
14:18:04 <mnasiadka> kevko: use tenks, we use it in CI
14:18:30 <mnasiadka> In master we've pinned Zun to Docker 20, but that ansible-collection-kolla functionality is only in master
14:18:31 <mmalchuk> kevko sure. teks project helps
14:18:38 <mmalchuk> tenks
14:19:11 <mnasiadka> Should we remove Zun CI jobs in stable branches?
14:19:18 <mnasiadka> Drop Zun at all?
14:19:41 <frickler> is that an issue in kolla or in zun?
14:19:57 <mnasiadka> well, in Zun - Zun relies on a dropped option in Docker Engine 23.0
14:20:21 <kevko> is anyone really using zun - i mean in community ?
14:20:43 <frickler> and the project has no plan to fix that?
14:20:48 <mnasiadka> --cluster-store
14:20:52 <mnasiadka> I raised a bug in Zun
14:21:06 <mnasiadka> but there are bugs from mid 2022 nobody did even triage
14:21:13 <mnasiadka> (not that kolla-ansible is better)
14:21:44 <mmalchuk> how zun differ from magnum?
14:22:06 <mnasiadka> Zun is for single containers, not depoying a container orchestration engine
14:22:12 <mnasiadka> *deploying
14:22:17 <kevko> mmalchuk: i never tried ..but you have simply docker daemon as backend instead of qemu/kvm
14:22:39 <kevko> mmalchuk: so you just start container on some compute which is type docker
14:23:05 <mmalchuk> nah
14:23:15 <kevko> magnum is orchestration service which deploys k8s to virtuals or baremetals and then containers/pods are running inside
14:23:16 <mmalchuk> someone need this in 2023?
14:23:28 <mmalchuk> with k8s
14:23:40 <mnasiadka> We're not discussing if the project is used/needed/etc
14:23:55 <kevko> hh, well i think nobody use it
14:23:58 <mmalchuk> lets drop it in kolla)
14:24:00 <mnasiadka> We're discussing if we should drop stable branches CI jobs and make a note in docs that Zun doesn't support Docker 23
14:24:18 <mmalchuk> disable ci at least
14:24:45 <mnasiadka> ok, any volunteer to do it?
14:26:58 <mnasiadka> fantastic
14:27:13 <kevko> i am not good at ci changes :/
14:28:01 <mmalchuk> me too... and Iam not core ;(
14:28:07 <mnasiadka> you just need to remove the jobs from project.yml, Zun might shape up in future and we might want to enable it back ;-)
14:28:08 <Fl1nt> I use zun, or kinda, but in vlab
14:28:33 <mnasiadka> Ok, I'll raise the patch.
14:28:38 <mnasiadka> #topic Open discussion
14:28:46 <mnasiadka> Anybody having some special questions today?
14:28:54 <mmalchuk> kayobe reviews?)
14:29:19 <kevko> mnasiadka: so i can try to do it
14:29:20 <mmalchuk> mnasiadka you promice twice
14:29:22 <Fl1nt> I'm having a long time due patch with keystone SSO
14:29:27 <Fl1nt> SAML2
14:29:28 <Fl1nt> based
14:30:01 <mmalchuk> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/861397
14:30:03 <Fl1nt> sorry for the delay, but the OIDC patch is... not that variabilised and broke horizon/keystone URLs things.
14:30:07 <mmalchuk> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/859842
14:30:19 <mmalchuk> at least two simple fixes
14:30:38 <mmalchuk> and one
14:30:39 <mmalchuk> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/845338
14:30:46 <mmalchuk> which is very needed
14:30:50 <wuchunyang> Hi， designate CI failed with docker_restart_policy: no
14:31:03 <Fl1nt> mmalchuk, we do use zun for simple mockup lab tests, k8s is too much of a hassle for many, and tbh it's full of crap.
14:31:15 <wuchunyang> anyone knows what happened ?
14:31:42 <Fl1nt> ah! nice to read that wuchunyang thanks, as I'll deploy designate really soon ^^
14:31:53 <mnasiadka> wuchunyang: have a link to job log? I can have a look later today
14:31:57 <mmalchuk> Fl1nt you can run k8s on any laptop)
14:32:22 <wuchunyang> in my local machine, it succeed , but i don't know why it failed in CI.
14:32:28 <Fl1nt> mmalchuk, I do run k8s on large scale but none the less descriptive manifest that are km long are crap as fuck.
14:32:49 <wuchunyang> mnasiadka: i have fixed it without setting docker_restart_policy in global.yaml.j2
14:32:59 <mmalchuk> Fl1nt https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/kubernetes-cluster-laptop
14:33:20 <wuchunyang> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/874280
14:33:22 <Fl1nt> wuchunyang, interesting, CI seems a bit shacky lately I've issues with it on other projects, taking more than an hour to complete
14:33:42 <Fl1nt> mmalchuk, meh?? I'm having a architectural issue with k8s not an ops one ^^
14:34:17 <wuchunyang> i also set docker_restart_policy to "no" in my local machine, but it worked for me.
14:34:21 <mmalchuk> Fl1nt sorry) just kidding
14:34:30 <mnasiadka> wuchunyang: thanks
14:34:59 <mnasiadka> ok, let's finish for today - k8s discussion is out of scope for Kolla :)
14:35:03 <mnasiadka> Thanks for coming!
14:35:05 <Fl1nt> mmalchuk, no biggies ;-)
14:35:05 <mnasiadka> #endmeeting