15:00:19 #startmeeting kolla 15:00:20 Meeting started Wed Dec 19 15:00:19 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is egonzalez. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:21 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:00:23 The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' 15:00:30 #topic rollcall 15:00:37 o/ 15:01:01 o/ 15:01:19 \o 15:02:32 o/ 15:02:34 #topic agenda 15:02:41 * Roll-call 15:02:41 * Announcements 15:02:41 * CI state https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-ci-status 15:02:41 * open discussion 15:02:50 #topic Announcements 15:03:15 Hi, just one new 15:03:24 call for presentations for denver summit is open 15:03:52 start thinking and proposing talks before 23th january 15:03:55 \o 15:04:08 thats all from me, any other announcement? 15:04:30 yeah one from me 15:04:46 spsurya have the voice! 15:04:49 more like information rather announcement 15:05:13 openstack-dev ML is now openstack-discuss 15:05:37 if somebody not finding confirmation mail then check your junk folder 15:05:48 right, forgot that, thanks for raising it 15:06:16 just a note on that, openstack-dev and openstack-operators has been merged into openstack-discuss ML 15:06:31 not sure if the SIGs is or is going to be moved as well 15:07:04 openstack@ (users list) also merged in 15:07:31 spsurya jroll thanks for the info! 15:07:50 any other announcement? 15:08:49 guess not, lets move to the next topic 15:08:53 #topic CI state https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-ci-status 15:09:22 this week we have another breakage but has been fixed already 15:09:52 some cinder changes also broke all our ceph/cinder jobs in kolla-ansible https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1808598 15:09:53 Launchpad bug 1808598 in Cinder "db migration issue on CentOS" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Gorka Eguileor (gorka) 15:10:08 is WIP now, hopefully lands soon 15:10:41 actually is passing the merge gate now, yay! 15:11:35 so now that we have green gates again, i'll re-propose a minor release for all stable branchs 15:11:47 is there any patch or critical bug i've missed? 15:11:54 egonzalez: thanks a lot for fix 15:11:57 is OK to create a new release? 15:12:51 egonzalez: seems ok i think 15:13:46 ok, i'll propose a new release later today 15:14:38 anything else on this topic? 15:15:16 egonzalez Thumb up! 15:15:58 chason not sure if thump up means OK or have something in the topic 15:16:46 Hahah..It means great job! 15:17:16 hahah 15:17:21 lets move to open discussion 15:17:32 #topic open discussion 15:17:41 i've a few things 15:17:58 first placement-api split 15:18:14 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/613589/ kolla images 15:18:38 this change is ready to go, except that ubuntu doesnt have the package because using older rocky 15:19:09 will open the work for kolla images consumers to start working on the split by deployment side 15:19:28 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/613629/ kolla-ansible 15:19:42 deploy is working, missing the upgrade tasks 15:20:13 please put those changes into your review priorities as if we dont finish before stein we will be broken 15:20:32 help accepted in kolla-ansible change ;) 15:20:44 Roger 15:21:17 nice 15:21:44 egonzalez: noted 15:21:51 second, related to the previous 15:22:25 while migrating placement-api we found we are still using ubuntu rocky UCA in master rather than stein 15:22:32 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/625298/ 15:22:39 was waiting if https://review.openstack.org/#/c/618215/ gets merge 15:23:34 there is a problem with it, many ubuntu API services has dropped support for python 2, so we need to update both deployment and images to use py3 depending on the service 15:24:18 spsurya if that merges we're broken at this moment :( 15:25:33 ok 15:26:37 re ubuntu python 3, any volunteer to work on it? images are almost ready, need to migrate and test the ansible config in the wsgi 15:29:05 I'd like to accomplish it, but I'm not very good at python.. ;( 15:29:54 chason python is not required, is ansible 15:30:35 we're not changing the base deployment, "just"(what i found) for now is changing /usr/lib/python.2.7/ to python3.6 15:30:48 in the wsgi depending on the distro and install type 15:31:33 probably something else appears, but is a matter of deployment changes 15:33:10 Not too clear.. Is there an example or guideline? 15:33:46 chason https://github.com/openstack/kolla-ansible/blob/master/ansible/roles/aodh/templates/wsgi-aodh.conf.j2#L1 as example 15:35:30 So we need all services use wsgi config? 15:35:54 chason no, only those who are changed to py3 in ubuntu and also use wsgi 15:37:07 OK 15:37:31 third and last item from me 15:38:10 christmas is coming! 15:38:19 let's skip the next or two meetings so you can have time enjoying the family 15:38:45 ++ :) 15:39:11 +1 :D 15:39:13 what you prefer , next week or next two weeks? 15:39:57 * jroll is fine either way 15:40:54 * spsurya i won't be available on next to next 15:41:15 nice , then 2 weeks :) 15:41:31 +1 15:41:40 anybody have a topic to discuss today? 15:41:48 egonzalez: yes 15:41:54 just a quick question from me 15:41:58 spsurya can go first :) 15:42:04 spsurya your turn, jroll go next :) 15:42:59 egonzalez: I will propose session Denver and let you know you by next to next week 15:43:15 *for Denver Summit 15:43:58 that is all from my side :) 15:44:17 cool, i'm thinking on some talks, havent decided about what yet 15:44:31 jroll your turn 15:44:45 my question: does kolla have a policy on master stability? or in other words, is it considered safe to continuously deploy from master? 15:45:04 jroll not safe, as we usually are broken due external changes 15:45:12 repositories, changes in other projects, etc 15:45:27 ok 15:45:30 is safe from stable/ 15:45:42 more than from pip packages 15:46:25 thanks egonzalez, is that written down somewhere in docs? 15:46:53 re master, take the example of the placement-split, one day you have code inside nova in same database, next day is outside and different database(without db schema migrations) 15:46:56 * jroll would really prefer to be deploying master, but external breakage is a fair point 15:47:20 right - though the upgrade process would be handled in kolla, correct? 15:47:26 jroll dont think there are docs about it 15:47:46 jroll yep, but you will usually be doing deploy rather than upgrade in same release 15:48:04 stable policies dont allow db schema changes in released branches 15:48:32 yeah, that was one thing I was still working out, deploy vs upgrade while tracking master 15:49:05 in master you should do upgrade always, as the projects may be adding new tables during the cycle 15:49:11 ok, thanks, that answers my question 15:49:12 yeah 15:50:11 we need more docs... 15:51:47 doesn't everyone? :) 15:52:34 yep 15:52:48 jroll thats all? 15:52:56 yep 15:53:43 any other topic? 15:53:46 someone? 15:55:22 guess not 15:55:28 thank you all for coming! 15:55:39 thanks egonzalez 15:55:39 thanks egonzalez for holding 15:55:40 thanks for hosting! 15:55:47 have nice holidays 15:56:07 #endmeeting