16:00:30 #startmeeting keystone 16:00:31 Meeting started Tue May 28 16:00:30 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cmurphy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:33 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:00:35 The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' 16:00:43 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting agenda 16:00:46 o/ 16:00:49 o/ 16:00:56 o/ 16:01:46 o/ 16:03:07 okay let's get started 16:03:31 #topic Train roadmap reorganized 16:03:42 #link https://trello.com/b/ClKW9C8x/keystone-train-roadmap 16:04:08 kind of an announcement - i went through the roadmap board and tried to reorganize it to have a flow that was easier to follow 16:04:20 at the moment it's organized into Epics -> Stories -> Tasks 16:05:06 epics are more overarching topics or categories, stories are like main features, tasks are individual units of work that would have deadlines on them 16:05:38 did anyone already notice and have a chance to look at it and see if it makes sense? 16:06:07 ++ 16:06:25 we have an insane amount of stories 16:06:35 yeah :/ 16:06:43 sorry - i don't mean that in a bad way 16:07:00 but it's kinda crazy to see them all listed out 16:07:08 it's a tad overwhelming 16:07:16 we may want to prune some 16:07:59 * lbragstad nods 16:08:30 everyone should still feel free to edit the board, but if you're creating tasks please add them to the checklist for the story and add a link back to the story in the task description 16:09:11 Ok. Thanks Colleen 16:10:30 and if you think of any feedback on how it's organized let me know, the idea is to make this easy for everyone to follow 16:10:52 hopefully with the stories/tasks breakdown this may translate into storyboard more easily too 16:11:17 looks like i have a bunch of pings to check in trello - i'll take some notes as i go through those 16:11:36 thanks lbragstad 16:12:10 any other thoughts on this topic? 16:13:09 #topic M-1 check-in meeting 16:13:24 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-May/006622.html 16:14:27 we agreed at the PTG to try to keep up momentum by doing these check-ins regularly, so with M-1 already coming up we need to schedule the first one 16:14:37 i think everyone here already filled in the poll :) 16:14:58 i'll send out individual reminders to everyone else 16:15:22 any thoughts or ideas regarding this check-in meeting? 16:16:20 seems fine to me 16:17:57 alright i'll send an update when there's enough data to schedule it 16:19:22 #topic Train specs 16:19:43 spec proposal due date is next week 16:20:04 which means ideally specs should be non-WIP and ready to review 16:21:50 from the PTG we had several planned, some aren't proposed yet so i wanted to check up on them 16:22:23 "Update app cred access rules spec" - I just proposed this this morning 16:22:31 #link https://review.opendev.org/661784 16:22:49 "Assigning roles on root domain" - I have that down for lbragstad 16:23:46 yep - i'll get to that today or tomorrow 16:23:46 lbragstad: is that something you're working on? 16:23:50 cool 16:23:57 sorry for the wait on that 16:24:05 no problem 16:24:29 "Model timestamps" - I have that down for knikolla 16:24:45 doesn't seem like knikolla is here so i'll check in with him after the meeting 16:25:23 "Renewable users" which used to be renewable app creds, I think knikolla was working on that but it still needs an update 16:25:49 "Federated user attributes" this was merged, needs a minor tweak though: 16:26:01 #link https://review.opendev.org/659876 16:26:40 "Immutable resources" this is proposed, I need to follow up with ayoung on his -1 16:27:02 "Resource options for all" is merged 16:27:39 "Explicit/predictable IDs" - i wrote down that this would be a spec, ayoung wrote a blog post i'm not sure if he was going to follow up with a spec 16:28:02 did I miss any? 16:31:24 not that i know of 16:32:16 okay moving on 16:32:24 #topic office hours 16:32:47 I feel like office hours the last couple of weeks has been kind of a bust 16:33:23 there aren't many of us here today, and it's late for vishakha 16:33:32 is this something we should still try to pursue? 16:33:38 today and in general 16:33:45 hmm 16:34:55 i'm kind of indifferent - it's kmalloc_away still out? 16:35:03 same 16:35:03 i think till next week 16:35:04 isn't* 16:35:16 I'm sortof back 16:35:25 he lives! 16:36:12 Back home, jetlagged though. Amazing what 3 hrs time shift does when it is gmt-10 vs -7 16:36:30 So, sortof here :P 16:36:40 Reading up. 16:37:03 just discussing what to do about office hours 16:37:10 I prefer specific topics vs general office hours at this point 16:37:21 We are often around for question answering anyway 16:37:50 yes that was already the idea 16:37:54 Rallying for specific goals is a good use of the time, otherwise office hours feels mostly quiet 16:37:56 i had started preparing topics https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-office-hours-topics 16:38:06 but then people disappear 16:38:08 And we can stop without explicit goals for a given week/day. 16:39:43 if we do a bug triage today - will people be around and interested in participating? 16:39:56 o/ 16:40:07 i can help out with that for a bit (like an hour) 16:40:11 on and off yes 16:40:19 I'll be hit/miss for another day or two getting back to normal schedule 16:40:34 I will be there too 16:40:49 okay great 16:40:50 For an hour 16:41:50 do folks prefer to start on the hour at 1700 UTC or immediately after the meeting (supposing the meeting ends early) 16:43:21 1700 utc is fine from my side 16:43:35 same 16:43:47 okay 16:44:43 #agreed start office hours at the scheduled time rather than immediately after meeting 16:45:02 #agreed prepared topics still best strategy, office hours can be cancelled if there are no topics 16:45:09 #topic open discussion 16:45:22 anything else to discuss or reviews that need attention? 16:46:48 * lbragstad doesn't have anything 16:47:52 okay, we'll end it here and come back for bug triage in a few minutes in #openstack-keystone 16:47:57 #endmeeting