18:00:10 #startmeeting keystone 18:00:10 Meeting started Tue Oct 24 18:00:10 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:11 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 18:00:14 The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' 18:00:17 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting 18:00:19 agenda ^ 18:00:22 o/ 18:00:34 ping ayoung, breton, cmurphy, dstanek, edmondsw, gagehugo, henrynash, hrybacki, knikolla, lamt, lbragstad, lwanderley, kmalloc, rderose, rodrigods, samueldmq, spilla, aselius, dpar 18:00:35 o/ 18:00:39 o/ 18:00:40 o/ 18:00:46 o/ 18:00:55 o/ 18:01:02 o/ 18:01:24 _o_ 18:01:37 o/ 18:02:08 o/ 18:02:17 #topic Relevant Forum sessions/activities 18:02:20 ildikov: o/ 18:02:32 hey all :) 18:02:52 I would like to draw your attention to a few sessions happening over the Summit 18:03:07 long story short the origin of these is the Open Research Cloud group 18:03:11 #link http://www.openresearchcloud.org 18:03:27 the goal is to federate scientific research clouds all around the globe 18:03:42 not exclusive to OpenStack, but experimenting with OpenStack based clouds right now 18:04:27 they have a two days long conference in Sydney the first day is in the Summit venue 18:04:29 #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/20534/3rd-open-research-cloudcongress 18:04:38 they have an identity working group 18:05:02 o/ 18:05:16 and it would be great to have insights from the experts on this team if you have capacity to pop by when the relevant slot(s) come up 18:05:45 cmurphy: sounds closely related to one of your answers in the TC questioning period 18:05:49 the other session is from a NIST/IEEE activity also on federation 18:05:52 https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/20475/supporting-general-federation-for-large-scale-collaborations 18:05:59 lbragstad: +1 :) 18:06:06 lbragstad: heh :) 18:06:24 cmurphy: I hope you'll be a partner in crime :) 18:06:39 so for the latter the guy, who proposed the session was playing with Keystone earlier 18:07:12 and it would be great if someone from the team could attend to see what's working already and what ideas they have that would need some additional tweaking 18:07:20 Martial or Craig? 18:07:25 Craig 18:07:41 yeah - that'd be valuable feedback 18:07:57 i'll definitely have a look 18:07:57 I might be free during that slot 18:08:03 seems closely related to my work 18:08:19 I just wanted to ensure that you have this on the radar as I think it would be great to foster some collaboration with the developer community where relevant 18:08:42 and also if you have any questions either now or onwards please ping me 18:09:00 I'm happy to answer what I can or connect you with the right person 18:09:22 knikolla: cmurphy: would be great if you could come! 18:09:22 ildikov: do you have irc nics for either of the presenters? 18:09:45 ildikov: will put it on my schedule :) 18:10:04 lbragstad: Martial is using martial when he's online 18:10:12 lbragstad: I need to check Craig 18:10:15 ok 18:10:17 just curious 18:10:30 lbragstad: Martial is also involved in our Scientific WG/SIG 18:10:45 cool 18:11:18 and Craig had chats with Steve a while back about federation topics 18:11:28 so he's not completely new to the community either 18:11:41 good deal 18:12:08 so appreciated in advance that you guys look into this 18:12:22 for sure - i have it book marked 18:12:25 and I hope we will have good discussions coming out of the sessions in Sydney 18:12:41 ildikov: thanks for giving us a heads up! 18:13:02 lbragstad: thanks for the floor :) 18:13:08 ildikov: anytime 18:13:17 lbragstad: :) 18:13:28 #topic trello sync 18:13:30 #link https://trello.com/b/5F0h9Hoe/keystone 18:13:40 so - just fyi, i changed a bunch of stuff in trello 18:13:58 i apologize in case you found a bunch of tello notifications in your inbox 18:14:30 but - overall, i wanted to be able to track bigger work while seeing smaller tasks move through the process 18:14:47 which is essentially where the "epics" column comes from 18:14:49 that was a good call 18:15:03 +1 18:15:12 otherwise - it doesn't really look like anything it moving, when things really are in flight 18:15:26 credit goes to hrybacki for the tip 18:15:54 hrybacki +1 18:15:57 for the time being - i'm not expecting the cards in "Epics" 18:16:01 to leave that column 18:16:13 but they should be descriptive enough and broken down into smaller cards 18:16:19 that can move through the rest of the stages 18:16:53 does anyone have comments or concerns about the new format? 18:17:56 also - nearly ever card has a due date, which roughly corresponds to a milestone 18:18:19 if you're the owner of a card, and you're comfortable setting a sooner due date, feel free to do so 18:19:52 from an actual work tracking perspective - the project tag stuff is *super* close to being done 18:19:59 #link https://trello.com/c/n7iBqoLY/35-project-tags 18:20:31 we're pretty much just waiting on a patch to tempest 18:20:33 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485344/ 18:20:39 yup 18:21:03 then we should be good to go from a server perspective 18:21:26 next would be the system-scoping stuff 18:21:33 #link https://trello.com/c/W6eFpdPw/28-system-scoping 18:21:55 starting with the spec 18:21:57 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464763/ 18:22:13 i'm working on converting the whole global roles implementation to using system-scope 18:22:28 (i'm trying to break things into smaller patches, too) 18:22:50 this is where we're at currently 18:22:52 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/system-scope+(status:open+OR+status:merged) 18:24:46 we also have unified limits and application credential specs coming down the pipe 18:26:55 it'd be good to have most of the spec work for the release taken care of before or shortly after sydney 18:27:28 does anyone else have anything for trello status? 18:28:44 #topic queens retrospective 18:29:03 does anyone have objections to holding the queens-1 retro during this meeting next week? 18:29:26 I think it's a good idea 18:29:43 i figured most everyone will have time blocked off anyway 18:30:38 Sounds good to me 18:30:56 +1 18:31:06 cool - we'll plan on doing the retro next week then 18:31:19 #topic open discussion 18:31:37 fwiw - the openstack-ansible upgrade job has been removed in favor of something else 18:32:11 as a result, odyssey4me has moved the job into the keystone repository 18:32:13 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514765/ 18:32:29 this was discussed this morning in #openstack-ansible 18:32:31 #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-ansible/%23openstack-ansible.2017-10-24.log.html#t2017-10-24T13:23:59 18:33:16 just fyi - and encouraging folks to review that if they're interested 18:35:07 Eventually all the jobs will be moved into the project repos right? 18:35:24 gagehugo_phone: that's a good question - i'm not 100% sure 18:36:28 clarkb: or fungi might have a better answer? 18:36:49 not all jobs 18:37:14 I think the plan is to keep the PTI defined jobs in project-config to ensure projects are running them along with any of the "system-required" jobs 18:37:29 then anything that needs access to infra secrets will remain in eg project-config 18:37:38 but the vast majority of jobs should be able to move into your repos 18:38:04 Ah ok 18:38:07 i assume functional or ldap testing might fall into that category? 18:38:58 yes 18:39:09 cool 18:40:13 unless anyone has anything else - we can get some time back 18:40:22 reminder office hours starts in 20 minutes 18:40:41 Thanks clarkb 18:40:52 We have the Amazon walk thru tomorrow, right? 18:40:57 yes 18:41:07 tomorrow at 1500 UTC 18:41:22 ayoung: thanks for the reminder 18:41:33 Cool 18:43:10 thanks for coming! 18:43:13 #endmeeting