18:00:23 <lbragstad> #startmeeting keystone 18:00:24 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Feb 14 18:00:23 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:25 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 18:00:28 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' 18:00:30 <lbragstad> ping agrebennikov, amakarov, annakoppad, antwash, ayoung, bknudson, breton, browne, chrisplo, crinkle, davechen, dolphm, dstanek, edmondsw, edtubill, gagehugo, henrynash, hrybacki, jamielennox, jaugustine, jgrassler, knikolla, lamt, lbragstad, kbaikov, ktychkova, morgan, nishaYadav, nkinder, notmorgan, portdirect raildo, ravelar, rderose, rodrigods, roxanaghe, samueldmq, SamYaple, shaleh, spilla, srwilkers, 18:00:31 <lbragstad> StefanPaetowJisc, stevemar, topol 18:00:33 <bknudson> hi 18:00:36 <browne> o/ 18:00:37 <lbragstad> bknudson o/ 18:00:42 <rderose> o/ 18:00:45 <spilla> o/ 18:00:49 <dstanek> o/ 18:00:51 <knikolla> o/ 18:00:51 <cmurphy> o/ 18:00:51 <raildo> o/ 18:00:58 <jaugustine> o/ 18:01:44 <lbragstad> #link agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting 18:02:11 <gagehugo> o/ 18:02:34 <lbragstad> we have a pretty light agenda today, so we'll give it a minute or two for others to show up 18:02:40 <stevemar> o/ 18:02:48 * stevemar grabs popcorn 18:03:00 <lbragstad> stevemar aren't you suppose to be on vacation? 18:03:04 <lbragstad> stevemar or sleeping? 18:03:25 <stevemar> lbragstad: management said no to my sleeping request 18:03:45 <lbragstad> stevemar sounds like you need to talk to HR ;) 18:04:09 <knikolla> stevemar: should have phrased it as "productive thinking with my eyes closed" 18:04:20 <lbragstad> knikolla i do that *all* the time 18:04:20 <dstanek> "i demand mid-day naps" 18:04:44 <lbragstad> #topic Meeting time 18:04:50 <lbragstad> alright - does this time still work for everyone? 18:05:07 <gagehugo> yup 18:05:08 <stevemar> works for me 18:05:10 <dstanek> yep 18:05:11 <lbragstad> I don't think we've ever changed the time of this meeting since I've been on the project, but wanted to ask since i know we have new folks 18:05:16 <lbragstad> I'm good with it 18:05:22 <bknudson> works for me 18:05:27 <knikolla> works for me 18:05:45 <lbragstad> this is the response I was planning for :) 18:06:06 <cmurphy> if the meeting time didn't work for someone wouldn't it be unlikely they'd be here to mention that? 18:06:24 <lbragstad> cmurphy more than likely - yes 18:06:40 <dolphm> +1 for confirmation bias 18:06:44 <lbragstad> cmurphy would a mailing list post be more appropriate? 18:07:10 <gagehugo> lbragstad that would probably be a good idea 18:07:28 <ayoung> heyo 18:07:50 <lbragstad> #action lbragstad to send a note to the mailing list to see if meeting time still works for everyone (even those not in the meeting) 18:08:03 <lbragstad> #topic Cross project liaisons 18:08:08 <lbragstad> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons 18:08:25 <dstanek> i'd like to give up my QA spot to let someone else get in there - maybe a non-core would be interested? 18:08:52 <lbragstad> if anyone else would like to sit out a release, now is the time to shuffle those seats 18:09:11 <knikolla> dstanek: there's a requirement to be core i think 18:09:31 <lbragstad> knikolla nope - 18:09:34 <lbragstad> "The liaison should be active in the project and familiar with the project-specific requirements for having patches accepted, but does not need to be a core reviewer or the PTL." 18:09:45 <topol> o/ 18:09:46 <dstanek> lbragstad: ++ 18:09:58 <dstanek> plus it helps people get more involved that may want to be core 18:09:59 <lbragstad> so if anyone here wants to be a CPL, please speak up :) 18:10:05 <lbragstad> dstanek ++ exactly 18:10:19 <lbragstad> being a CPL is a great way to get more involved, especially with other projects 18:10:26 <knikolla> The liaison should be a core reviewer for the project, but does not need to be the PTL. The liaison should be prepared to assist with writing and reviewing patches that interact with their project, and with discussions of changes to the QA projects to make them easier to use within the project. 18:10:32 <knikolla> from the wiki ^^ 18:10:44 <knikolla> the QA section of CPL 18:11:02 <lbragstad> hmm - it'd take *should* with a grain of salt 18:11:33 <topol> sounds like PTL discretion to me :-) 18:11:39 <lbragstad> I'd personally rather have a contributor that is willing to spend time on the responsibilities of the CPL versus a core reviewer who is already spread to thin and can't dedicate the time 18:11:40 <dstanek> i don't know why they'd have separate rules 18:12:11 <dstanek> if someone wants to step up i'm sure they have the backing of the PTL and several cores 18:12:12 <topol> lbragstad +++ 18:12:32 <lbragstad> knikolla would you be interested taking over the QA CPL role from dstanek ? 18:13:03 <knikolla> lbragstad: i'd be interested, though i can't give a definitive answer now 18:13:14 <lbragstad> knikolla that's fine 18:13:30 <ayoung> rodrigods, let me volunteer you for that 18:13:36 <lbragstad> knikolla I'll follow up with the maintainers of that page and see if that's a hard requirement (even though it doesn't sound like it is) 18:14:01 <lbragstad> #action lbragstad to follow up about requirement of core for CPL roles 18:14:18 <topol> typicaly when something says should its not set in stone and discretion is allowed 18:14:19 <lbragstad> anyone else interested in stepping up for down for a CPL role? 18:14:24 <lbragstad> topol ++ 18:14:34 <lbragstad> topol I would imagine it's ultimately up to the project 18:14:40 <topol> I agree 18:15:01 <ayoung> lbragstad, rodrigods is full time QA. He'd be the obvious choice for the QA liason 18:15:16 <knikolla> ayoung: ++ 18:15:23 <lbragstad> rodrigods thoughts? 18:15:45 <lbragstad> rodrigods do you accept this voluntrolling? 18:15:46 <ayoung> silence == consent 18:15:54 <knikolla> lol 18:16:03 <raildo> haha ++ for rodrigods 18:16:25 <lbragstad> I won't push anyone into it just yet, but I will make a note to follow up with folks so that we can keep the position filled 18:16:27 <ayoung> lets get a confirmation from him later... 18:16:36 <knikolla> agreed 18:16:38 <lbragstad> moving on 18:16:40 <lbragstad> #topic Pike PTG Planning and Agenda 18:16:45 <lbragstad> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-pike-ptg 18:16:49 <lbragstad> rough outline of our agenda is at the bottom, along with some basic information about the format 18:17:11 <lbragstad> I'm working on the schedule now - so if anyone notices a conflict somewhere, please let me know as soon as possible 18:17:56 <lbragstad> also - if anyone has a last minute topic, let me know 18:18:15 <lbragstad> I think we are just going to have a single room for 3 days 18:18:21 <lbragstad> (wednesday through friday) 18:18:36 <lbragstad> it will be available from 9 - 5 (6 if we need it) 18:19:10 <lbragstad> I am going to try and fit the time blocks to the topic, so that we don't feel cramped for time if we have a large topic to work through 18:19:17 <lbragstad> like-wise for smaller topics 18:19:39 <lbragstad> my plan is to have this fleshed out by thursday 18:19:43 <bknudson> lots to go through in 3 days 18:19:51 <lbragstad> bknudson yes, thereis 18:20:16 <lbragstad> if there is anything major that we need to work around, scheduling-wise, I'll need to know within the next day or two 18:20:31 <lbragstad> by friday i expect to have a pretty solid schedule laid out 18:20:39 <samueldmq> lbragstad: nice single room is good 18:20:51 <lbragstad> (along with etherpads for dedicated topics - complete with background information) 18:21:06 <lbragstad> ++ 18:21:28 <lbragstad> if we need to meet up with any other projects wednesday through friday - we will have to start scheduling that 18:21:36 <lbragstad> a lot of other projects are working through their schedules now, too 18:22:02 <lbragstad> last bits about the PTG sessions 18:22:21 <lbragstad> I'd like to see if we can stick to the Champion/Moderator/Scribe model throughout the PTG 18:22:37 <lbragstad> I put definitions for each of those roles in the etherpad (in the agenda section) 18:22:37 <samueldmq> lbragstad: cool, we will have a meeting for policy , correct ? 18:22:42 <samueldmq> you hav emore info on that ? 18:22:59 <lbragstad> samueldmq we do - and it will be coordinated with the nova + cinder teams 18:23:17 <lbragstad> I have that blocked off for thursday afternoon 18:23:20 <lbragstad> after lunch 18:24:31 <lbragstad> for now - that's really the only topic we have set with any sort of precedence, since we rely on schedules from other projects 18:24:56 <lbragstad> (nova is going to be meeting with cinder thursday morning and ironic on wednesday afternoon) 18:25:09 <samueldmq> cool 18:25:47 <lbragstad> does everyone know what times they plan on getting in and leaving? 18:26:00 <lbragstad> I'll be there Wednesday morning and staying until late friday night 18:26:04 <gagehugo> tue afternoon - friday night 18:26:13 <rderose> yeah, Tues 4 PM, leaving Fri night 18:26:49 <lbragstad> we typically have a lot of folks heading home on friday afternoon - so I have the hackathon tentatively set for that day 18:26:57 <samueldmq> sun-sat 18:27:01 <topol> Im Sunday thru Friday. Got Interop stuff Monday-Tuesday 18:27:11 <lbragstad> if we need more room for topics, we can bump into the hackathon time 18:27:17 <knikolla> Tues 8pm, Sat morning 18:27:34 <dstanek> sometime on tuesday and sometime on friday -- my departures are a little variable though 18:27:36 <knikolla> will miss happy hour :( 18:27:50 <bknudson> I'm also there Sun - Fri since oslo is mon-tue 18:27:56 <lbragstad> cool 18:28:52 <lbragstad> I expect for things to come up throughout the week - so if find potential hackathon ideas we can add them later 18:29:03 * topol trying to remember all my favorite restaurants. I lived in ATL 9 years 18:29:05 <lbragstad> otherwise we can keep that as a breakout session, too 18:29:17 <lbragstad> topol oh - i'm one step ahead of you :) 18:29:40 <lbragstad> topol feel free to amend my list on line 132 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-pike-ptg 18:29:58 <lbragstad> those ^ were a few places we went to the last time we had a summit in ATL 18:30:17 <lbragstad> I threw them there in case we needed ideas for supper any of those nights 18:30:43 <samueldmq> lbragstad: ++ nice 18:30:47 <topol> Ahhh, let me expand your horizons with some real local favorites 18:30:55 <lbragstad> topol ++ 18:31:05 <samueldmq> hehehe 18:31:06 <samueldmq> topol: ++ 18:31:44 <lbragstad> alright - anyone else have questions about the PTG? 18:32:29 <lbragstad> #topic Open discussion 18:32:31 <bknudson> waffle house 18:32:37 <lbragstad> bknudson -2 18:32:40 <browne> haha 18:32:50 <lbragstad> I went there last time 18:34:15 * jaugustine waiting intensely waiting for gmaps link to Panchos 18:35:11 <gagehugo> Monster Margarita huh 18:38:49 <samueldmq> gagehugo: is that a huge margerita pizza ? 18:39:58 <gagehugo> samueldmq I have no idea, but it sounds interesting 18:40:08 <gagehugo> I assume it's just a very big margerita 18:40:36 <samueldmq> + 18:40:38 <samueldmq> ++ 18:45:14 <lbragstad> i think my client dropped, did the meeting actually end? 18:46:11 <clarkb> looks like still open discussion 18:46:24 <lbragstad> thanks for coming and a reminder that next week we probably won't have a meeting due to travel 18:46:29 <lbragstad> thanks clarkb 18:46:35 <lbragstad> (not sure what happened there) 18:46:43 <lbragstad> #endmeeting