18:00:12 <ayoung> #startmeeting Keystone
18:00:12 <openstack> Meeting started Tue May 12 18:00:12 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ayoung. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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18:00:13 <raildo> yay \o/
18:00:13 <amakarov> hi!
18:00:15 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'keystone'
18:00:16 <morganfainberg> o/ here somewhat
18:00:16 <breton> o/
18:00:21 <lhcheng> o/
18:00:23 <bknudson> you can just tweet me
18:00:35 <geoffarnold> o/
18:00:43 <gyee> \o
18:00:45 <dstanek> bknudson: now you've opened a can of worms
18:00:53 <ayoung> Agenda is https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/KeystoneMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting
18:01:04 <ayoung> My topic on testing from last week should have been removed.
18:01:15 <ayoung> So.....
18:01:19 <gyee> bknudson, whatever you tweet can be held against you in the court of law
18:01:19 <ericksonsantos> \o
18:01:25 <ayoung> Reminder:  No IRC meeting next week
18:01:52 <topol> o/
18:02:03 <ayoung> See you at summit, or catch up the following week
18:02:13 <ayoung> Week afterwards is summit recap
18:02:34 <breton> any cool talks to listen at the summit?
18:02:48 <breton> *keystone-related talks
18:02:57 <ayoung> Give you a few seconds if you want to post anything on the last two itesm of the agenda, but at this point, anything important should be slated for summit
18:03:02 <ayoung> breton, Mine!
18:03:03 <topol> some federated identity talks might be of itnerest :-)
18:03:05 <morganfainberg> No meeting the week post summit either
18:03:09 <ayoung> Dynamic Policy!
18:03:12 <rodrigods> topol, ++
18:03:22 <ayoung> 6/2 Post Summit rundown
18:03:27 <rodrigods> there is also a keynote
18:03:30 <bknudson> are there any conflicts that people see in the schedule?
18:03:34 <marekd> topol: is going to be broadcasted so i can watch it?
18:03:37 <jsavak> \o
18:03:42 <ayoung> Anything on Specs?
18:04:19 <dstanek> bknudson: there are 2 policy sessions in the same time slot on one of the days
18:04:19 <topol> marekd?  you are going to be there, correct
18:04:20 <amakarov> HMT improvement
18:04:22 <ayoung> OK...weekly bug reports:
18:04:26 <ayoung> http://keystone-weekly-bug-report.tempusfrangit.org/weekly-bug-reports/keystone-weekly-bug-report.html
18:04:29 <marekd> topol: i hope so!
18:04:32 <marekd> ;-)
18:04:40 <jsavak> lol
18:05:10 <ayoung> Got one unassigned in audit.  gordon is no longer Audit point man...anyone want to take it?
18:05:16 <bknudson> dstanek: which ones are those?
18:06:47 <ayoung> topol, any idea who is working on audit these days?
18:06:54 <dstanek> bknudson: Tues @ 440
18:07:11 <topol> ayoung, me and stevemar
18:07:21 <topol> ayoung what happened to gordon?
18:07:24 <ayoung> topol, care to triage https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystonemiddleware/+bug/1452055
18:07:24 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1452055 in keystonemiddleware "Improvement for notification support detection in audit middleware" [Undecided,New]
18:07:29 <bknudson> dstanek: there's a cross-project and then one for group based policy
18:07:31 <dstanek> bknudson: and even Wed at 11
18:07:33 <ayoung> topol, he's PTL for something else, I think\
18:07:38 <topol> ayoung, sure will take a look
18:07:42 <bknudson> I don't know what group based policy is
18:07:48 <ayoung> bknudson, not us
18:07:53 <ayoung> that is neutron
18:08:04 <morganfainberg> Some Keystone folks are working on it there's a whole core team. But it moves pretty slow
18:08:15 <bknudson> what is it?
18:08:24 <bknudson> they have a lot of sessions
18:08:26 <morganfainberg> Audit that is
18:08:45 <morganfainberg> Not gbp
18:08:51 <ayoung> bknudson, Group Policy has something to do with placement of VMs and Firewalls and things not Keystone
18:09:13 <ayoung> topol ,  Gordon is PTL for  Metering/Monitoring (Ceilometer)
18:09:15 <dstanek> ayoung: so not really policy related?
18:09:27 <ayoung> dstanek, that is why I named my presentation Policy for Access Control
18:09:36 <bknudson> there's some security sessions I'll likely go to that conflict with keystone sessions
18:09:37 <ayoung> the term policy has been co-opted...as well it should be
18:09:51 <topol> ayoung, did officially bug out? Thats fine. I just missed it on the mailing list if he did
18:09:54 <geoffarnold> GBP is for declarative network provisioning
18:10:27 <ayoung> topol, nah, I just don't treat him as my personal Audit expert anymore.  Gordon doesn't scale
18:10:34 <geoffarnold> crudely, GBP is to Neutron as Heat is to Nova
18:10:42 <topol> bknudson, I can get ou connected on the group base dpolicy stuff
18:11:03 <topol> bknudson just understand its not policy like we think policy in Keystone
18:11:05 <ayoung> geoffarnold, doesn't Heat cause a  star to go Nova?  So GBP is what causes Neutron to explode?
18:11:22 <geoffarnold> Neutron is already at critical state....
18:11:27 <ayoung> anyway..I'll alloce 5 more minutes for gneral convo and then call the meeting.
18:11:33 <topol> ayoung, I think it depends who is holding the detontator
18:12:05 <ayoung> Anyone else headed from Seattle to Vancouver on Sunday?
18:12:15 <lbragstad> no, but I'll be there Saturday
18:12:27 <lbragstad> I assume most are getting in on Sunday?
18:12:30 * breton will be there saturday evening
18:12:37 <topol> ayoung, I arrive on Sunday
18:12:38 <geoffarnold> GBP is on interest to Keystone only in the same way that Heat is: lots of delegated "on behalf on" authorization
18:12:40 * marekd sunday
18:12:46 <geoffarnold> of interest
18:12:46 <morganfainberg> Train from PDX to Vancouver on sat
18:13:16 <geoffarnold> flying up Friday; playing tourist Sat/Sun
18:13:25 <jsavak> i'll be there sunday
18:13:48 <ayoung> lbragstad, yeah.  I had been told you could take a ferry, but it turns out there is no Ferry from Seattle to Vancouver.  You have to go to Victoria frist..would take 8+ hours
18:13:49 <gyee> what's the url to the wiki on getting around vancouver
18:13:52 <gyee> I missed that email
18:14:17 <breton> who's going to have a big print of a keystone specie?
18:14:19 <ayoung> was told train is the best option, but the train either leaves too early or too late
18:14:35 * topol you all get time to play tourist. Im very jealous
18:14:36 <ayoung> breton, you asking us to counterfit?
18:15:08 <raildo> gyee, there is some good informations here: https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2015/about-vancouver/#getting-around
18:15:21 <ayoung> OK...one more minute, and then moving back to #openstack-keystone
18:16:03 <ayoung> #endmeeting