15:01:21 <mgoddard> #startmeeting ironic
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15:01:26 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'ironic'
15:01:28 <etingof> o/
15:01:29 <rpioso> \o
15:01:31 <rpittau> o/
15:01:33 <arne_wiebalck> o/
15:01:33 <jroll> \o
15:01:34 <stendulker> o/
15:02:03 <goldyfruit_> BjoernT, let's discuss about that after the meeting :)
15:02:14 <BjoernT> Thanks
15:02:20 <mgoddard> Hello everyone, dtantsur|afk is on a train, and TheJulia is on a plane, so I'm stepping in again
15:02:33 <rloo> o/
15:02:46 <mgoddard> I will try to rhyme for the whole meeting, but I can't promise anything
15:03:13 <bdodd> o/
15:03:38 <mgoddard> #topic announcements
15:04:06 <mgoddard> #info All train deliverables have now been released \o/
15:04:17 <rpittau> nice :)
15:04:23 <rloo> chooo chooo!!!
15:04:35 <rpioso> \o/
15:04:54 <mgoddard> #undo
15:04:55 <openstack> Removing item from minutes: #info All train deliverables have now been released \o/
15:05:07 <mgoddard> #info Most train deliverables have now been released \o/
15:05:18 <mgoddard> I see there are a couple that need prodding :)
15:05:26 <rpittau> oh
15:06:01 <mgoddard> actually, maybe it's just ironic-python-agent-builder
15:06:11 <rpittau> mgoddard: which one are wwe missing?
15:06:12 <rpittau> oh ok
15:06:17 <mgoddard> and that's independent
15:06:22 <mgoddard> #undo
15:06:22 <openstack> Removing item from minutes: #info Most train deliverables have now been released \o/
15:06:25 <mgoddard> #info All train deliverables have now been released \o/
15:06:31 <mgoddard> hooray!
15:06:35 <rpittau> all aboard!
15:06:48 <mgoddard> indeed
15:06:51 <cdearborn> o/
15:06:52 <mgoddard> Any others?
15:07:25 <rpittau> so from now on verything goes into Ussuri, unless it's a very urgent ifx
15:07:29 <rpittau> fix*
15:07:55 <mgoddard> rpittau: we can always backport fixes (subject to stable policy)
15:08:01 <rpittau> yup ok
15:08:12 <mgoddard> #info Master branches are now unfrozen
15:08:26 <mgoddard> On with Ussuri
15:08:41 <mgoddard> #topic Review action items from last meeting
15:08:50 <mgoddard> There were none
15:09:01 <mgoddard> #topic Review subteam status reports (capped at ten minutes)
15:09:17 <mgoddard> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard
15:09:22 <mgoddard> starting at L241
15:10:19 <mgoddard> at what point do we normally go and reset these for the next release?
15:10:54 <rpittau> I'm not sure we actually reset them
15:11:01 <rloo> i know we review/reset after we've agreed on priorities for the next cycle.
15:11:13 <rloo> i suspect in between, we kind of 'continue' with work
15:11:42 <mgoddard> that's not for a while, assuming we do it at PTG again
15:12:22 <rloo> that might be worth a discussion, but i think the user feedback at the forum is meant to help drive the priorities
15:12:43 <rloo> or, if not drive, be taken into consideration when deciding on priorities
15:12:46 <mgoddard> true
15:13:14 <rloo> i think we have some idea of what we need/ought to continue to do?
15:13:50 <mgoddard> I expect so - continue with work that didn't make train
15:14:07 <mgoddard> anything we need to discuss here
15:14:10 <mgoddard> ?
15:14:52 <rloo> i am going to clean this up a bit. delete 'redfish sensor data collection', that looks like it is all done. L309
15:15:34 <mgoddard> are we safe to remove PDF generation too then?
15:15:49 <rloo> mgoddard: i was just about to ask that.
15:16:14 <rloo> mgoddard: i think we can delete that. it sez 'done' :)
15:16:15 <rpittau> mgoddard: yes, that's all done
15:16:45 <mgoddard> goen
15:16:48 <mgoddard> gone
15:17:29 <mgoddard> ok, it's a little cleaner now
15:17:43 <mgoddard> Onto priorities?
15:18:17 <mgoddard> #topic Deciding on priorities for the coming week
15:18:43 <mgoddard> L151
15:22:16 <rloo> as a note, for backport candidates (L189). I added that PR cuz it needs someone to do the backport.
15:22:33 <mgoddard> I've cleaned the priorities up
15:22:51 <rpittau> rloo: you mean it's not a clean backport ?
15:23:11 <rloo> we're backporting to train, stein, & rocky, right?
15:23:14 <rloo> rpittau: yes
15:23:18 <rpittau> rloo: yeah, ok
15:23:53 <rloo> oh, i answered my question, and noted it in the whiteboard last week! so much for my memory :D
15:24:52 <mgoddard> are there any other patches that need adding to priorities this week?
15:25:12 <rpittau> rloo: I might get to it tomorrow, unless someone else doesn't do it before :)
15:25:32 <rloo> rpittau: no hurry. i suggest putting your name down. well, i'll do it :)
15:25:41 <mgoddard> I guess we should focus on specs now?
15:26:33 <rloo> i think (not totally sure) the focus is meant to be... test out rc1 candidate before final release.
15:26:49 <mgoddard> rloo: we've released
15:27:14 <mgoddard> no candidates here, straight to release
15:27:41 <mgoddard> testing still encouraged, in case we need to roll another
15:28:10 <rloo> mgoddard: i thought we've released a rc1; if there are issues, we can release an rc2... Final RCs are week of oct7. What that really means, i don't know.
15:28:25 <rloo> https://releases.openstack.org/train/schedule.html
15:28:28 <mgoddard> rloo: we released 13.0.0
15:28:41 <rloo> maybe it is paperwork.
15:28:42 <mgoddard> we're cycle-with-intermediary, so do it a little differently
15:29:24 <rloo> paperwork -- announcing *which* release is the one to be associated with Train.
15:29:53 <mgoddard> how do we do that?
15:30:17 <mgoddard> we've already created stable/train
15:30:24 <jroll> I think that's done by it being in the releases repo
15:30:27 <mgoddard> https://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/ironic/train.html
15:30:31 <rloo> i have no idea. i know we have, in the past, done an rc1 (ie, branched), and had to backport fixes and announce some other version (besides rc1) as *the* release.
15:30:37 <jroll> e.g. this shows the available versions in train: https://releases.openstack.org/train/index.html
15:31:39 <rloo> so eg, python-ironicclient shows as 3.1.0, not 3.0.0 even though we branched with 3.0.0
15:32:03 <mgoddard> yeah, that's the latest release on the stable/train branch
15:32:26 <jroll> I believe the latest release on the train branch, at the time of the "global" release, will be communicated as "train"
15:32:36 <mgoddard> right, makes sense
15:32:43 <rpittau> yep, that should be it
15:33:05 <mgoddard> #topic Open discussion
15:33:34 <mgoddard> Anyone have something for discussion today?
15:35:03 <rloo> If I forgot to mention this before, THANKS to everyone for helping out with the Train release(es)
15:35:27 <mgoddard> ++
15:36:32 <rpittau> thanks all :)
15:36:52 <mgoddard> Let's leave it there for today then
15:37:00 <cdearborn> hey folks, ironic devstack plugin appears to be broken since the removal of coreos support
15:37:15 <mgoddard> hi cdearborn
15:37:21 <cdearborn> i posted about it earlier
15:37:24 <mgoddard> that doesn't sound good
15:37:45 <cdearborn> ramdisk pxe boots to shell prompt and sits there
15:38:36 <mgoddard> cdearborn: I think dtantsur|afk would be the best person to ask about the latest state of coreos removal
15:38:49 <cdearborn> i would greatly appreciate some help resolving this.  no idea where to go from here other than falling back to an older version of ironic
15:38:54 <mgoddard> is it something you're investigating?
15:39:44 <cdearborn> i honestly don't know where to start - not even sure if pxe booting tinyipa to a shell prompt is expected behavior or if that's broken
15:40:40 <mgoddard> cdearborn: if you think coreos removal is the culprit, you could try reverting that patch
15:40:52 <cdearborn> coreos ramdisk booted to a login prompt
15:41:35 <cdearborn> well, this is the 1st time i've tried tinyipa ramdisk, so not sure if this didn't work in the past or not
15:42:02 <cdearborn> the only thing i can say is that coreos ramdisk worked, and tinyipa/dib ramdisks don't
15:42:07 <mgoddard> CI tests use tinyipa and devstack, so I'd not expect it to be completely broken
15:42:15 <rpittau> cdearborn: that's kind of weird considering that the entire CI is based on devstack with tinyipa
15:42:51 <mgoddard> shall we take it out of the meeting?
15:42:54 <jroll> cdearborn: running devstack on ubuntu or something else?
15:42:56 <jroll> ++
15:42:59 <cdearborn> xenial
15:43:01 <cdearborn> ++
15:43:01 <rpittau> mgoddard: yeah
15:43:05 <mgoddard> ok, thanks everyone
15:43:07 <mgoddard> #endmeeting