17:23:56 #startmeeting ironic 17:23:56 Meeting started Mon May 1 17:23:56 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtantsur. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:23:57 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:24:00 The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' 17:24:12 o/ Like I've been waiting a really long time.... 17:24:12 finally! hello everyone and welcome to ironic meeting :) 17:24:17 w00t 17:24:21 our agenda is as usual at 17:24:23 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic 17:24:27 :) 17:24:29 * jlvillal arm is tired ... 17:24:36 #topic Announcements / Reminders 17:24:46 #info Pike priorities update: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460086/, all cores please vote 17:24:59 we're reducing the number of priorities :( and removing some people :( :( 17:25:20 :-( 17:25:24 :( 17:25:31 next, 17:25:35 * jlvillal emotes sadness 17:25:37 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/116095.html summary of the virtual meetup 17:25:47 it was quite good, let's try moar of these 17:25:59 #info OpenStack R will be called Rocky :) 17:26:21 dtantsur: There was a suggestion that maybe we could do one of our meetings each month as a conference call 17:26:22 next, I suggest canceling the next meeting, on May 8th 17:26:31 jlvillal, we can try it, sure 17:26:33 dtantsur: I am +1 on that. Maybe first meeting of the month? 17:26:47 jlvillal, starting with June, I guess? 17:26:47 Not sure what others think. 17:26:53 +1 17:27:10 Okay for cancelling if a lot of people will be absent. I'll be around. 17:27:10 jlvillal, let's bring it to the ML, we don't have a quorum here unfortunately 17:27:19 Works for me. 17:27:33 May 8th is a holiday in many places, and it's also the 1st day of the Forum 17:28:03 in honor of ^^, lets skip the meeting next Monday 17:28:04 makes sense then. 17:28:10 ok 17:28:15 sounds good 17:28:18 #agreed Let's skip the meeting next Monday 17:28:29 any other announcements, reminders? 17:28:56 #topic Review subteam status reports 17:29:13 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard starting with line 92 17:29:26 I hope that most of you already had a chance to review/update it due to the late start 17:29:31 any questions or comments? 17:30:10 i have a question about bfv. there's a lot of stuff there. what i want to know is: is it working? 17:30:27 TheJulia, mjturek ^^^ 17:30:39 hshinna has been doing testing, although he found a blocking connection information constraint 17:30:53 hopefully we'll have that taken care of this week 17:30:54 TheJulia: so all the patches are there, just need more testing, reviewing? 17:31:22 some refactoring of the cinder driver is going to be needed to send along exactly what cinder is expecting, not just what it is using, since it expects more. 17:31:39 TheJulia: and the nova side -- is that a 'simple' patch? (just trying to get an idea of when we need to get the ironic side done etc in order to get it all into pike) 17:31:41 IMO, uefi iscsi boot fromcinder volume should be part of the bfv 17:31:43 and another patch needs to be wrapped up that is skip logic for the conductor 17:32:04 wanyen: This has been discussed. We have a specific BFV meeting if you wish to discuss it. 17:32:31 TheJulia: ok. if we don't ask, someone should ping us when we are getting close to eg nova deadlines... 17:32:34 TheJulia, do we already have a chain of patches that can be tried out? or is it still too WIP? 17:32:39 rloo: fairly simple, I believe it is just one patch. I'm starting to doubt pike because the fallout has pretty much nuked our velocity right now 17:32:39 The Julia, when and what room of bfv meeting? 17:32:49 TheJulia: :-( 17:32:53 wanyen, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-BFV 17:32:53 wanyen: please see https://eavesdrop.openstack.org 17:32:55 wanyen: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/ 17:33:08 The Julia, tx 17:33:19 dtantsur: chain, but one that is needed is WIP which is deployment skip logic 17:33:21 TheJulia, did you have a chance to chat with derekh? you can try throwing things on him 17:33:27 I created it and tossed it up to see 17:33:49 I briefly chatted with derekh, he was going to look into things and get back with me 17:34:09 ok, good. I hope he can more or less compensate the loss of people.. 17:35:00 me too 17:35:12 it still looks doable, let's try to keep the pace 17:35:25 the other 'big' thing i'm not sure about, are all the network-related stuff. 17:35:53 there are links to various things, not sure which are more urgent, which to review first, etc. 17:36:01 TheJulia, I wonder if it's possible to more aggressively split the patches to avoid 1000-lines like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366197/ 17:36:12 rloo, the week priorities? :) 17:36:44 I mean, networking is great, but BFV and rolling upgrades are around for so long that they count as technical debt :) 17:36:46 dtantsur: it is kind of one of those half full or half empty things. More patchesets will also just slow us down just as well 17:36:53 dtantsur: yes, but who knows what the priorities are :-( 17:37:02 TheJulia, maybe. it's much easier for me to review small patches 17:37:20 rloo, we decide it every week, no? or do I misunderstand your question? 17:37:26 +1 on easier to review smaller patches, but I'm stating the obvious :) 17:37:43 dtantsur: we do, but we haven't had network folks in our meetings for a few weeks. 17:37:55 dtantsur: do you know what the priorities are for the network related work? 17:38:26 seems like we need to circle back tomorrow about networking stuff 17:38:43 rloo, not quite, that's why we have meetings.. 17:38:48 TheJulia: I'm hoping to get an update on the cinder driver either today or tomorrow FYI. I might have some questions later today though 17:39:04 mjturek: awesome 17:39:10 dtantsur: right, which is why i'm bringing it up, I don't have a good feel for the network related stuff :) 17:39:43 me neither. my gut feeling is that it's not THAT pressing as stuff we have now (and our priorities seem to confirm that) 17:39:55 rloo: status I'm aware of is sambetts|afk was writing the spec as of last week 17:39:58 for routed networks 17:40:18 They are intertwined, perhaps we should re-prioritize the network stuff for landing next cycle...... 17:40:25 the remaining stuff that is 17:40:28 * dtantsur notes that we're past 10 minutes cap for the statuses 17:40:39 seems like a chicken/egg (just saying). since i don't know if any network things are priorities, i wouldn't suggest they get on the weekly priority list... 17:41:01 rloo: without specs/things to review.... *shrug* 17:41:28 well, let's chat about priorities then :) 17:41:30 ok, lets take offline. if anyone sees any of the network guys grab them and interrogate. 17:41:43 #topic Deciding on priorities for the coming week (2 weeks in this case) 17:41:48 * TheJulia orders large bright lights off of amazon 17:41:58 TheJulia++ 17:42:10 ok, we've landed one of the items - the client side for the driver comp (\o/) 17:42:38 the etags spec has one +2. 17:42:50 do we even want to take more? or let's try to make some progress during these 2 a bit shorter (for some of us) weeks? 17:43:31 I can go take a look at the etags spec later today once I test out some images in my lab 17:43:40 cool! 17:43:52 thx TheJulia! 17:44:32 dtantsur: i'm fine with the weekly priorities as is. maybe after forum, we can pick up momentum. 17:45:00 yeah, we can't expect a lot of activity till next meeting, due to all these things 17:45:12 any objections to keep pushing on the same topics? 17:45:45 oh, I'm putting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460086/ there as it's a must do 17:45:50 I wouldn't mind a longer list of priority things that need reviews, personally. But I'm stupidly busy right now 17:46:22 if we magically finish with what we have, we can take more from the same topics 17:46:31 wfm 17:46:45 ok, then 17:46:48 #topic Open discussion 17:47:04 anything? 17:47:49 * dtantsur wraps up in 1 minute of nobody brings anything :) 17:47:55 just a quick one i hope. wrt cimc 17:48:07 sam wants to rename the Cisco UCSM driver (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400673/). Given the dynamic drivers, is it worth doing? 17:48:16 or sorry, ucsm. 17:48:41 we agreed a long time ago not to change the legacy drivers once composition landed 17:48:55 oh, that driver.. 17:49:00 yes, TheJulia++ 17:49:10 what's even worse, IIRC UcsSdk is deprecated 17:49:10 that's what i thought. 17:49:19 OH 17:49:30 so -2 on that patch i guess. 17:51:07 (that's it for me) 17:51:08 I suspect so 17:51:09 I feel like -2 is kind of right 17:52:00 ok, let's comment on the patch then 17:52:03 anything else? 17:52:31 is it worth mentioning that people should ping me if they need an ironic core next week? 17:52:38 at the summit/forum? 17:52:47 TheJulia: yup 17:52:57 TheJulia: i think you'll be the only core there? 17:53:05 I believe so yes 17:53:17 unless jroll is going? anyone know? 17:53:18 REPRESENT! ;) 17:53:23 It may also mean that I might have to take on an additional session 17:53:29 rloo, I think he is not 17:53:31 I don't think jroll is going ag this point 17:53:36 err, at 17:53:47 I just messaged him earlier so I'll know soon enough 17:53:48 thank you so much TheJulia! :) 17:53:57 +1 Thanks TheJulia 17:54:00 ++ 17:54:05 <3 17:54:21 No thanks are required, I'm just doing what is needed :) 17:55:38 finishing 5 minutes earlier as a compensation of the late start? :) 17:55:44 ++ 17:55:45 :) 17:56:01 thanks all, see you in 2 weeks in this room and tomorrow otherwise! 17:56:01 dtantsur: sounds awesome :) 17:56:15 #endmeeting