17:00:17 <jroll> #startmeeting ironic
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17:00:21 <jroll> hi everyone :)
17:00:21 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'ironic'
17:00:21 <mjturek1> o/
17:00:21 <NobodyCam> o/
17:00:22 <jlvillal> o/
17:00:23 <sambetts> o/
17:00:32 <jroll> #chair NobodyCam devananda
17:00:33 <openstack> Current chairs: NobodyCam devananda jroll
17:00:46 <dtantsur> o/
17:00:46 <alineb> o/
17:00:50 <krtaylor> o/
17:00:51 <jroll> I may have to run off for a few minutes during this, so you two be ready to take over :)
17:00:52 <rloo> o/
17:00:58 <thiagop> o/
17:01:22 <TheJulia> o/
17:01:24 <jroll> that... is apparently now
17:01:27 <jroll> NobodyCam: mind running this?
17:01:53 <NobodyCam> I can Just wrapping up a internal meeting
17:02:10 * jlvillal thinks dtantsur also loves to run meetings ;)
17:02:11 <NobodyCam> morning all
17:02:23 * jroll apologizes, bbi 10-15
17:02:32 <mkovacik> o/
17:02:41 <krtaylor> jlvillal runs the worlds fastest meetings :)
17:02:46 <dtantsur> lol
17:02:52 <NobodyCam> as always the agenda can be found at :
17:02:56 <NobodyCam> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic
17:02:59 * jlvillal just doesn't want it to be him.
17:03:37 <gabriel-bezerra> o/
17:03:46 <thiagop> lol
17:03:54 <cdearborn> \o
17:04:10 <NobodyCam> #topic announcements
17:04:29 <NobodyCam> Summit is just around the cornor
17:04:52 <NobodyCam> lots of good Ideas on the etherpad:
17:04:59 <NobodyCam> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic
17:05:01 <NobodyCam> gah
17:05:11 <NobodyCam> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-newton-summit
17:05:25 <mgould> o/
17:05:49 <NobodyCam> looks like the 15th is our cut off
17:06:27 <NobodyCam> please take a minute to review and add your thoughts and priorites
17:07:07 <gabriel-bezerra> I've just added a new topic
17:07:07 <thiagop> Some of the topics are without proposer. If you were the proposer, please, put you name into it :)
17:07:10 <gabriel-bezerra> line 82
17:07:16 <rloo> NobodyCam, what does the cut off mean? That people can comment up til then, or that ironic needs to provide the summit info.
17:07:30 <NobodyCam> do we have a final session count?
17:07:56 <dtantsur> we do, but I don't remember it :) should be on the ML
17:07:58 <thiagop> NobodyCam: I think jroll sent a PDF with all sessions
17:07:58 <NobodyCam> rloo: I believe we will need to finilize our sessions by then
17:08:13 <thiagop> session rooms*
17:08:16 <jlvillal> I think it is about scheduling the room and sessions.
17:08:18 <thiagop> and time slots
17:08:27 <rloo> NobodyCam: ok, so maybe we want people's feedback by the 14th?
17:08:40 <NobodyCam> thiagop: yes and if I recall Wednesday was our BIG day
17:08:48 <dtantsur> yep
17:08:49 <NobodyCam> rloo: ++ yes!
17:09:46 <NobodyCam> any other Announcements I am missing?
17:10:25 <gabriel-bezerra> we have 14 topics already, don't we?
17:11:05 <NobodyCam> about that 13 /14
17:12:11 <NobodyCam> ok then lets move on to SUbteam status reports
17:12:22 <NobodyCam> #topic SubTeam Status
17:12:43 <NobodyCam> of course status can be found on hte white board:
17:12:47 <NobodyCam> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard
17:13:21 <NobodyCam> around line 105
17:14:27 <NobodyCam> while folks take look, seems the gate is stable again :)
17:14:43 <jlvillal> Thanks TheJulia for fixing the latest issue :)
17:15:18 <mgould> TheJulia++
17:15:29 <rloo> dtantsur, wrt bugs. I haven't been looking. are the new bugs related to new features?
17:15:29 <TheJulia> no problem :)
17:16:05 <rloo> dtantsur, and are the bugs coming in faster than they are being resolved?
17:16:09 <NobodyCam> jlvillal: I see the note about the grenade testing, any more thoughts on how thats comming along?
17:16:28 <mat128> rloo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1555725
17:16:29 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1555725 in Ironic "Node will crash if another OneView user removes the Server Profile of the node" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Sinval (sinvalneto01)
17:16:35 <dtantsur> rloo, 1. no, 2. yes
17:16:53 <rloo> dtantsur: yuck.
17:16:59 <jlvillal> NobodyCam: I can add a little more detail.
17:17:00 <dtantsur> we have a separate counter for wishlist things. some untriaged rfe's might get to the list of bugs, but many of them are actual bugs
17:17:11 <rloo> mat128: ?
17:17:34 <NobodyCam> jlvillal: awesome thank you :)
17:17:36 <dtantsur> jroll, when you're back: we should probably start giving updates to things where "newton" is written currently :)
17:17:44 <mat128> you were asking for bugs related to new features, I saw some OneView stuff recently
17:17:55 <rloo> dtantsur: the 26 high bugs concern me.
17:17:57 <mat128> I might be totally off, just went off by the title
17:18:04 <dtantsur> rloo, they should..
17:18:17 * devananda runs in late, wondering why his calendar notifications didn't go off for this meeting
17:18:24 <NobodyCam> dtantsur: is the increased bug reporting rate due to the fact that we cut a release and folks are testing that?
17:18:33 <NobodyCam> :)
17:18:39 <dtantsur> NobodyCam, I'd say, due to increasing adoption of ironic
17:18:41 <mgould> devananda, DST change?
17:18:41 <rloo> mat128: oh. yeah, i am not surprised if there are bugs related to new features, just wondering how many were due to new :)
17:18:50 <dtantsur> e.g. a lot of things reported by Mirantis folks
17:18:53 <mat128> Ahhh :P my bad
17:18:59 <devananda> possibly?
17:19:00 <NobodyCam> dtantsur: :) thats actually really awesome them :)
17:19:05 <NobodyCam> then*
17:19:12 <rama_y_> o/
17:19:16 <rloo> mat128: no worries.
17:20:01 <NobodyCam> any other questions on the subteam status
17:20:42 <dtantsur> yes
17:20:50 <NobodyCam> :)
17:20:52 <dtantsur> several sections are empty right now, any updates on them?
17:21:10 <NobodyCam> I saw several no-update ones
17:21:12 <dtantsur> actually nearly all are empty, counting also ones stating "newton" :)
17:21:34 <NobodyCam> is lintan here?
17:21:56 * dtantsur removed everything mentioning netwon, cause newton is going on right now
17:21:58 <jlvillal> Shanghai time is 1:21am
17:22:29 <NobodyCam> devananda: jroll had to run this morning would you have a update for Multi compute hosts?
17:22:40 <devananda> NobodyCam: none here
17:23:07 <devananda> I think jroll is coordinating with the nova team to arrange for a joint session in Austin, but I don't have details yet
17:23:14 <NobodyCam> I dont see lucas or lintan for live upgrade
17:23:15 <devananda> (that session also might be for the network discussion)
17:23:53 <mgould> lucas is on vacation, IIRC
17:24:11 <rloo> wasn't there some email discussion about docs?
17:24:11 <NobodyCam> ah thats right he is
17:24:33 <NobodyCam> rloo: do you have ref's to add there?
17:24:40 <sambetts> devananda: there is a couple of sessions we're disucssing for the networking intergration, a cross project ironic/neutron/nova session to disucss the future of networking in Ironic and then we've got a neutron/ironic session planned for the neutron track for disucssing vlan aware instances
17:24:56 <NobodyCam> krotscheck: any updates for web Ui?
17:24:59 <rloo> NobodyCam, no, i saw it in passing.  hmm, let me see if i can find it although it may take many minutes.
17:25:13 <NobodyCam> rloo: ack thank you :)
17:25:20 <sambetts> L32 -> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-neutron-summit-ideas
17:25:35 <sambetts> Number 12 -> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-cross-project-sessions
17:27:15 <devananda> sambetts: sounds good
17:27:29 <jroll> I'm back, so sorry
17:27:40 <NobodyCam> hey hey jroll
17:27:45 <rloo> NobodyCam: here's part of the thread where jroll commented on doc plugin: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/090274.html
17:28:02 <jroll> multi compute stuff - no session at the summit, we know what we need to do
17:28:04 <NobodyCam> any update on for the doc section of subteam status
17:28:11 <NobodyCam> :)
17:28:18 <rloo> I mean, jroll would like a doc plugin for our install guide to be included with the 'official' documentation.
17:28:44 <jroll> I've got no (coherent) update on docs right now
17:28:57 <jroll> s/coherent/substantial/  maybe :)
17:29:08 <NobodyCam> jroll: just added the link rloo posted tothe doc for folks to look at
17:29:11 <NobodyCam> rloo: Thank you :)
17:29:17 <jroll> cool
17:29:20 <rloo> thank jroll :)
17:29:54 <NobodyCam> jroll: that was prob about the end of subteam
17:29:59 <jroll> perfect
17:30:07 <NobodyCam> want to jump in for REF stuff?
17:30:17 <jroll> thanks for the help NobodyCam :)
17:30:18 <jroll> yep
17:30:19 <NobodyCam> RFE* :p
17:30:24 <jroll> #topic RFE review
17:30:28 <jroll> just one today
17:30:30 <jroll> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1561137
17:30:32 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1561137 in Ironic "[RFE] Add support for operators on root device hints" [Wishlist,New] - Assigned to Lucas Alvares Gomes (lucasagomes)
17:30:48 <jroll> lucas is out today, but I figure we could look at this anyway
17:31:05 <jroll> I think I'm okay without a spec on this, does anyone disagree?
17:31:21 <dtantsur> +1 for just doing it
17:31:29 <mat128> +1 Looks fairly trivial
17:31:30 <jlvillal> I'd prefer "notin" over "ni"
17:31:33 <TheJulia> +1
17:31:36 <jlvillal> besides that... :)
17:31:37 <cdearborn> +1
17:31:51 <jroll> rloo devananda NobodyCam thoughts? :)
17:32:13 <mat128> jlvillal: nothing should by default be "eq", like ComputeHostCapabilities filter
17:32:22 <mat128> and backwards compat
17:32:42 <rloo> i think it is fine w/o a spec. my only question is whether the abbreviations he is proposing is 'standard'.
17:32:45 <jlvillal> mat128: I'm not quite understanding that.
17:33:02 <mat128> http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/filter_scheduler.html
17:33:11 <mat128> maybe we should use that syntax instead?
17:33:15 <jlvillal> rloo: I think all of them are standard up to but not including 'in'
17:33:32 <jroll> good question, https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/filters/extra_specs_ops.py
17:33:43 <rloo> ok, we should propose a cross-project spec to propose those abbreviations as openstack standards then :D
17:33:47 <mat128> (not saying it's more readable, but it's already in "openstack" so yeah)
17:33:50 <mat128> Lol
17:33:51 <jroll> lol :|
17:34:01 * thiagop thinks that it scalated quickly
17:34:13 <jroll> that is a good point though
17:34:13 <dtantsur> rloo, things like eq, ne, lt, etc are used in ceilometer and got cargo-culted to inspector
17:34:21 <jroll> aha
17:34:48 <jroll> in that case I'm okay with it, especially if it's inspector already
17:34:53 <devananda> I'm more or less fine with bashisms
17:34:55 <jroll> I prefer this syntax to nova's
17:35:14 <mat128> same here, was just pointing out a difference
17:35:20 <rloo> will it be confusing to people/operators for ironic syntax to be different from nova's?
17:35:26 <mat128> I'm fine with the "test" version / ironic-inspector
17:35:27 <jlvillal> https://docs.python.org/2.7/library/functools.html
17:35:28 <dtantsur> (in case of inspector I'm referring to http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ironic-inspector/usage.html#conditions )
17:35:29 <devananda> rloo: it already is :)
17:35:35 <NobodyCam> rloo: was just about to ask that
17:35:39 <mat128> rloo: will it be confusing if it's different between ironic-* projects?
17:35:41 <jlvillal> I guess I think of the "Python" names...
17:35:45 <jroll> mat128: ++
17:35:59 <dtantsur> to end the argument, we can support both
17:36:01 <jroll> I'd prefer matching with inspector over matching with nova, I think
17:36:06 <dtantsur> it's not terribly hard to be honest
17:36:13 <rloo> dtantsur, how hard would it be to change inspector to match with nova?
17:36:19 <rloo> or do we even want it to match with nova?
17:36:30 <jroll> well, then ceilometer is misaligned
17:36:31 <mat128> tbh I was surprised by nova's syntax at first
17:36:39 <rloo> so i think we should match with nova then. unless nova is an outlier?
17:36:46 <dtantsur> rloo, this is part of introspection rules API, changing API is meh..
17:37:04 <rloo> geez, maybe we really need a cross-project spec :-(
17:37:12 <dtantsur> rloo, if we're only talking about operators, not the whole root device hint syntax, then we can easily support both
17:37:20 <dtantsur> oh god no
17:37:21 <devananda> jroll: I believe aligning our API with Nova would be more valuable than aligning with Ceilometer, if that is a choice
17:37:25 <NobodyCam> can we support both
17:37:36 <dtantsur> NobodyCam, YES
17:37:36 <jroll> devananda: yeah, agree, but inspector throws a wrench in it
17:37:41 <jlvillal> Do the nova ones require escaping of the URL that is generated? Or is that in the POST section.
17:37:50 <jroll> I'm okay with supporting both, honestly
17:37:55 <dtantsur> jlvillal, it's not in URL
17:37:55 <NobodyCam> ++
17:38:03 <jlvillal> dtantsur: thanks
17:38:08 <krotscheck> NobodyCam: Sorry, was talking with wife. Yes, lots updates, much reviews needed. Wow ui.
17:38:16 <jlvillal> Both seems reasonable compromise to me.
17:38:27 <NobodyCam> krotscheck: please update the whiteboard
17:38:38 <NobodyCam> :)
17:39:18 <jroll> okay, so let's approve this, and we can go forward from there as to whether we support both or not
17:39:36 <jroll> folks okay with that?
17:39:41 <dtantsur> lets record in the comment, that we might need to support both variants
17:39:53 <NobodyCam> dtantsur: good Idea
17:39:53 <jroll> yep, mind doing that dtantsur?
17:39:55 <dtantsur> to not confuse people who are used to nova syntax
17:39:57 <dtantsur> sure
17:39:59 <rloo> jroll. not sure. shouldn't we agree on what it should support first?
17:40:00 <jlvillal> +1 for approve and adding comment.
17:40:33 <jroll> rloo: I feel like it should support the syntax proposed, at a minimum, because it matches inspector
17:40:49 <mat128> jroll: +1 on this
17:41:00 <mat128> we can have a separate item for nova syntax
17:41:02 <rloo> jroll, but if inspector can change to support nova syntax, do you think ironic should support both too?
17:41:12 <mat128> yes because the change will have made it to master
17:41:15 <mat128> imo
17:41:27 <jroll> rloo: I don't have strong opinions on supporting nova syntax or not
17:41:29 <jlvillal> rloo: Not sure inspector should "change". maybe add additional support. But to change would break the API wouldn't it?
17:41:45 <dtantsur> rloo, I can't guarantee inspector will change it in the observable future
17:41:48 <rloo> jlvillal, that's what i meant.
17:41:49 <jroll> yeah, api break is bad
17:42:02 <rloo> i just don't like the idea of ironic supporting two syntaxes if we don't need it to do so.
17:42:02 <NobodyCam> we would have to go through a deperaction to change
17:42:11 <jroll> so he alternative to this discussion is writing a small spec on this
17:42:16 <jroll> which lucas said he doesn't mind doing
17:42:23 <jroll> but I don't want to bikeshed for weeks in gerrit
17:42:27 <dtantsur> me too
17:42:36 * mat128 thinks I should have kept the nova link to myself... lol
17:42:40 <dtantsur> I don't see any problems with having a simple mapping == is the same as eq
17:42:50 <jroll> mat128: I was going to say the same thing anyway, don't worry :)
17:43:17 <rloo> i think we'd be doing ourselves a disservice by not mentioning/thinking of compatibility issues outside of ironic
17:43:21 <jlvillal> going off into implementation land, but it is a dict with mappings.  '==' and 'eq' can both map to the same thing. So seems easy to support both.
17:43:26 <jroll> okay, why don't we just approve with the caveat we must support both?
17:43:49 <NobodyCam> I'm okay with aproval and comment that both format should be supported
17:43:57 <mat128> +1
17:44:01 * dtantsur has actually written such comment already
17:44:06 <NobodyCam> :)
17:44:07 <gabriel-bezerra> and the ni -> notin
17:44:10 <dtantsur> sorry for being a bit too fast :)
17:44:24 <jroll> lol
17:44:30 <jlvillal> If 'ni' is how inspector does it, then I'm okay with it being 'ni' :)
17:44:33 <jroll> dtantsur: is 'ni' an inspector thing today?
17:44:43 <jlvillal> +1 to both being implemented.
17:44:44 <dtantsur> jroll, "not-in"
17:44:51 <gabriel-bezerra> not-in then
17:45:09 <jroll> dtantsur: okay, can you actually list out what inspector does, we can map to nova, and that'll be the things we support?
17:45:27 <dtantsur> jroll, http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ironic-inspector/usage.html#conditions
17:45:44 <dtantsur> oops, I lied about not-in
17:45:49 <jroll> heh
17:45:50 <dtantsur> confused with a different one, sorry folks
17:45:54 * dtantsur is probably tired
17:46:01 <gabriel-bezerra> not not-in then
17:46:09 <dtantsur> not-not-in
17:46:10 <jroll> so maybe this needs some work to align with inspector and nova, then
17:46:23 <dtantsur> jroll, we can start with a simpler subset
17:46:27 <jroll> let's ask lucas to re-propose the syntax that works well for both
17:46:31 <jroll> and go from there?
17:46:40 <rloo> ++, thx jroll
17:47:03 * jroll comments
17:47:06 <dtantsur> thnx
17:47:53 <jroll> k
17:47:58 <jroll> #topic open discussion
17:48:01 <jroll> so before people shout things
17:48:03 <jroll> I have a thing
17:48:18 <jroll> this week and next, I'll be pretty intermittent availability on irc
17:48:36 <jroll> I'm moving from california to michigan, about 2500 mile drive (and packing, and dealing with movers, etc)
17:48:39 <NobodyCam> oh thats right your moving
17:48:43 <krtaylor> wow
17:48:48 <jroll> so I'll be checking irc once/twice a day, I'll be keeping up on email
17:48:49 <NobodyCam> :)
17:48:54 <jlvillal> driving?  Ouch!
17:48:57 <NobodyCam> jroll: awesome :)
17:49:13 <jroll> quickest way to reach me will be via google hangouts (jim@jimrollenhagen.com)
17:49:23 <jroll> but in the car, may still be a couple hours response :)
17:49:37 <jlvillal> Safe travels and congrats
17:49:38 <mgould> jroll, good luck!
17:49:39 <jroll> just wanted everyone to be aware
17:49:45 <jroll> thanks, it'll be a ride :P
17:50:01 <rloo> jroll, that's a better time zone too :)
17:50:05 <NobodyCam> jroll: should I plan on covering hte meeting next week just to be sure?
17:50:08 <jroll> rloo: :D
17:50:14 <jroll> NobodyCam: oh yeah, if you or deva could cover
17:50:18 <devananda> jroll: enjoy the drive! and congrats :)
17:50:19 <NobodyCam> ++
17:50:21 <jroll> I'm going to try to jump in, because session planning
17:50:27 <jroll> but cell service may be spotty
17:50:37 <gabriel-bezerra> have a safe trip
17:50:41 <krtaylor> ++
17:50:49 <mat128> good luck with the move :)
17:51:00 <jroll> thank you all
17:51:07 * mgould checks: that's about 3x the length of my longest ever road trip :-)
17:51:10 <jroll> now, anything more interesting for the last 9 minutes?
17:51:15 <jlvillal> Neutronic! ;)
17:51:15 <mjturek1> krtaylor and I have an announcement. As you may know, we've been working on an ironic CI system for KVM on Power that uses actual baremetal nodes as targets (rather than guests). It's been running well and wanted to know if there were any objections to us tuning on commenting on ironic patches?
17:51:17 <jroll> mgould: about double for me
17:51:27 <jroll> mjturek1: please do!
17:51:30 <rloo> jroll, i was going to ask you about session planning. we had mentioned it earlier, with a deadline for feedback by 13th apr.
17:51:32 <mjturek1> jroll: awesome :)
17:51:38 <maurosr> \o/
17:51:41 <mjturek1> and congrats, safe travels
17:51:47 <rloo> jroll: did you want to actually discuss sessions next monday at th emeeeting?
17:51:55 * jlvillal drove from Biloxi, Missippi to Santa Rosa, California round trip when he was younger. Never again.
17:51:56 <mjturek1> maurosr: \o/
17:51:56 <NobodyCam> mjturek1: nice :) w00t
17:51:59 <jroll> rloo: I mentioned in channel this morning (and would have mentioned in announcements if I was here), I'm going to rough draft this week, then discuss and finalize on monday
17:52:09 <jroll> maybe final tuesday/wednesday
17:52:21 <rloo> jroll: good to know. thx.
17:52:26 <krtaylor> mjturek1, you heard 'em, lets turn it on!
17:52:52 <jroll> krtaylor: btw, can you compile me a list of third party folks and CI status for wednesday's qa meeting?
17:53:04 <jroll> and I can send out some emails and whatnot
17:53:10 <krtaylor> BTW, we have a bare metal pool management that we have written, that we are looking at contributing also
17:53:33 <mjturek1> yep, it's called molteniron and it's pretty integral to our CI
17:53:41 <krtaylor> jroll, will do, thats on my list, I'll move it up
17:53:43 <jroll> aren't we like, building one of those? :)
17:53:57 <jroll> more seriously, that would be great
17:53:59 <krtaylor> yes, thats why I wanted to mention it
17:54:21 <krtaylor> other projects have shown interest also
17:54:23 <mjturek1> heh, yeah we're not sure where it might overlap, but figured it'll be useful (at least initially :))
17:54:38 <krtaylor> hey, it works :)
17:54:40 <mat128> On that topic, we have totally virtual baremetal lab that we still have to contribute
17:54:47 <mat128> PDUs, IPMI and everything
17:54:53 <krtaylor> sweet!
17:55:01 <NobodyCam> mat128: wow
17:55:09 <mat128> even network equipment
17:55:15 <mjturek1> very cool!
17:55:25 <mat128> yeah, we're very test-driven and we had to make everything work in a reliable fashion
17:55:25 * jlvillal isn't quite sure what "totally virtual baremetal lab" means
17:55:41 <mat128> similar to the devstack nodes that we manage with the ssh power driver
17:55:45 <mat128> but, totally independent
17:55:49 <mat128> you dont need any special driver
17:55:57 <mat128> you use the regular SNMP driver, etc.
17:56:02 <NobodyCam> mat128: using lucas virtual bmc thing?
17:56:27 <mat128> I think we are still using pyghmi for the virtual BMC, but we've had nothing but problems with that
17:56:40 <mat128> which kinda segways to a critical bug of ours
17:56:40 <mat128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1531981
17:56:41 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1531981 in Ironic "ipminative.NativeIPMIPower fails on reboot" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Jonathan Provost (jprovost-sh)
17:56:42 <NobodyCam> mat128: awesome \o/
17:56:50 <krtaylor> FYI, anything CI related, for quick contribution just to get it out in the open, we can push it to the openstack third party repo I created, ping me for details
17:56:50 <mat128> pyghmi/ipminative doesnt work at all
17:57:04 <mat128> krtaylor: will do
17:57:14 <mat128> is there anyone using ipminative our there?
17:57:22 <jroll> apparently not :P
17:57:30 <mat128> we initially prefered a pure python approch, but it doesnt even work :P
17:57:41 <mat128> should we suggest a spec to remove it?
17:57:48 <jroll> well...
17:57:52 <jroll> why not fix the bug?
17:57:59 <NobodyCam> *two minutes*
17:58:06 <gabriel-bezerra> krtaylor: might you send the link of the repo?
17:58:09 <mat128> we fixed it, but pyghmi doesnt even work
17:58:11 <mat128> lol
17:58:15 <mat128> maybe it's just on our side
17:58:16 <jroll> (though, to be fair, if nobody puts up third party CI this cycle it will be dropped)
17:58:18 <jroll> mat128: ^
17:58:32 <mat128> ok interesting
17:58:40 <mat128> we can test all of ipmi* with virtualdatacenter
17:58:41 <jroll> mat128: if you look at pyghmi commits, there's basically one guy working on it, could email him
17:58:46 <jroll> or file a bug against pyghmi
17:58:48 <krtaylor> gabriel-bezerra, https://github.com/openstack/third-party-ci-tools
17:58:57 <gabriel-bezerra> krtaylor: thank you
17:59:06 <NobodyCam> jroll: dropped or moved to https://github.com/openstack/ironic-staging-drivers/ ???
17:59:21 <jroll> NobodyCam: if someone wants to propose it there, they are welcome to
17:59:27 <NobodyCam> ack
17:59:34 <jroll> I only have time for working on ironic >.>
17:59:48 <devananda> mat128: fwiw, pyghmi was written by IBM initially
17:59:55 <jroll> alright, we're at time. thanks everyone
18:00:00 <jroll> #endmeeting