17:00:07 <NobodyCam> #startmeeting Ironic
17:00:07 <NobodyCam> #chair devananda
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17:00:18 <devananda> o/
17:00:19 <NobodyCam> Of course the agenda can be found at:
17:00:19 <NobodyCam> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting
17:00:22 <thiagop> o/
17:00:22 <dtantsur> o/
17:00:23 <lucasagomes> hello
17:00:24 <mariojv> \o
17:00:27 <NobodyCam> #topic Greetings, roll-call and announcements
17:00:27 <TheJulia> o/
17:00:27 <NobodyCam> Roll-call: Who's here for the Ironic Meeting?
17:00:31 <yuriyz> o/
17:00:32 <smoriya> o/
17:00:36 <mariojv> \o
17:00:38 <stendulker> o/
17:00:41 <gabriel-bezerra> o/
17:00:44 <Madasi> o/
17:00:55 <NobodyCam> welcome all
17:00:56 <jroll> \o
17:00:57 <betherly> o/
17:01:19 <rloo> o/
17:01:31 <sambetts> o/
17:01:32 <clif_h> o/
17:01:33 <jroll> I haz announcements when we're ready for them :)
17:01:41 <NobodyCam> lets jump into it
17:01:42 <NobodyCam> #topic announcements:
17:01:47 <jlvillal> o/
17:01:58 <jroll> hi, a few things:
17:02:15 <jroll> we released python-ironicclient 0.8.1 today with a whopping 3 changes
17:02:23 <jroll> that will be stable/liberty for the client
17:02:30 <NobodyCam> w00t
17:02:55 <NobodyCam> I hear tail we may also cut the first bifrost release this week
17:03:06 <TheJulia> That is my hope *hopes*
17:03:07 <NobodyCam> TheJulia: ^^^ ????
17:03:23 <lucasagomes> #link https://gist.github.com/jimrollenhagen/d626f93472ff8bda9759
17:03:30 <lucasagomes> changelog (if people are interested) ^
17:03:32 <jroll> we'd like to enter a soft freeze for ironic beginning thursday - this means we shouldn't land anything risky. the goal is to release 4.2.0, to be stable/liberty, next thursday
17:03:45 <NobodyCam> lucasagomes: for the client?
17:03:51 <lucasagomes> NobodyCam, yup
17:03:55 <jroll> even better link about the client:
17:03:57 <jroll> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2015-September/000622.html
17:04:13 <NobodyCam> awesome
17:04:42 <jroll> anyway, cores please honor this soft freeze and don't land anything risky after thursday
17:04:45 <NobodyCam> also devananda should be back
17:04:54 <devananda> yup - i'm back from vacation
17:05:03 <dtantsur> \o/
17:05:10 <jroll> and for the third announcement... we're taking summit session ideas on this etherpad here:
17:05:11 <jroll> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-ironic-design-summit-ideas
17:05:25 <NobodyCam> jroll: are you thinking we should we block with  -2 until afterthe freeze?
17:05:30 <lucasagomes> jroll, ack, it's a bit odd to release the client before the server
17:05:37 <lucasagomes> but we can/should discuss it later
17:05:38 <jroll> NobodyCam: yes, if needed
17:05:44 <devananda> I don't have confirmation from ttx yet about how many slots we'll have -- but I am hoping it will be roughly the same # as last summit
17:06:00 <jroll> lucasagomes: yeah, let's discuss later, I'd like to think about how we feature freeze (sadface) more for Mitaka
17:06:06 <rloo> devananda: i thought ttx sent out email about the slots
17:06:11 <jroll> lucasagomes: as we don't control the library freeze
17:06:16 <lucasagomes> jroll, sure +1
17:06:22 <devananda> rloo: oh - i may have missed it then when combing through all the backlog ...
17:06:43 <rloo> devananda: i htink it was 4, 4, 1/2 day, but not sure.
17:06:48 <jroll> devananda: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/073654.html
17:06:55 <jroll> it isn't set in stone yet, that's "proposed"
17:06:56 <devananda> rloo: ahh yes, there it is
17:07:01 <lucasagomes> yea
17:07:31 <devananda> apologies for the noise. i apparently hvae more emails to catch up on
17:07:46 <NobodyCam> :)
17:08:09 <NobodyCam> are there anyother announcements?
17:08:40 * jroll is fresh out
17:09:04 <NobodyCam> ok then we'll move on... Thank you jroll and everyone
17:09:08 <NobodyCam> #topic SubTeam: status report
17:09:09 <NobodyCam> Posted on Whiteboard
17:09:09 <NobodyCam> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard
17:09:55 * jroll updates neutron thing
17:10:57 <NobodyCam> awesome Ty :)
17:11:33 <NobodyCam> comments / question on status's?
17:12:15 <rloo> jroll, others: are those 11 high bugs stuff we want fixed in liberty release?
17:12:24 <NobodyCam> giving folks a little time to review
17:12:43 <rloo> jroll: i haven't looked at your list of bugs in the etherpad (that's why i picked on you)
17:12:55 <jroll> rloo: oh, I should have mentioned the bug list before :)
17:13:09 <jroll> rloo: I listed the ones I'd like to see fixed, others may have varying opinions
17:13:14 <rloo> and i see one HI nova bug there too
17:13:17 <jroll> (under release status)
17:13:23 <rloo> jroll: ok, will take a look later, thx.
17:13:40 * lucasagomes would like the clean* stuff in
17:14:08 <rloo> lucasagomes: the abort?
17:14:10 <lucasagomes> the bugs seems to be all in progress as well
17:14:11 <jroll> lucasagomes: the abort stuff? +1
17:14:17 <lucasagomes> rloo, jroll yes sir
17:14:18 <dtantsur> clean + zapping + RAID are my favourites
17:14:29 * NobodyCam refreshes his agenda and see a new line item
17:14:34 <rloo> maybe folks can annotate/add to jroll's list then
17:15:01 <jroll> yes, feel free
17:15:15 <lucasagomes> do you guys think that a review jam would help with some of it?
17:15:26 <jroll> maybe?
17:15:32 <NobodyCam> when?
17:15:35 <jroll> I know rloo and myself have just been constantly review jamming
17:15:42 <jroll> by ourselves :P
17:15:48 <lucasagomes> if we have a quorum, idk tomorrow or wed. we should try get the fixes in
17:15:53 <lucasagomes> most (if not all bugs) already have a fix proposed
17:15:59 <jroll> I'd be down for a jam though
17:16:00 <rloo> jroll: i was wondering. yeah, by ourselves. Seems to be working fine :)
17:16:19 <NobodyCam> I can attempt to make it
17:16:24 <rloo> i'd like to focus on feature patches this week. fine with a review jam for bugs after that.
17:16:25 <lucasagomes> yeah we can ask cores to prioritize those stuff and they can review at their own time
17:16:27 <lucasagomes> that works too
17:16:58 * lucasagomes will focus on review more tomorrow
17:17:03 <NobodyCam> don't we have a hi proitory rewiew list (etherpad) somewhere?
17:17:03 <dtantsur> I think we already do :)
17:17:14 <dtantsur> (that was for " prioritize those stuff")
17:17:45 <rloo> i think for sure we should regroup on Monday, to prioritize/review jam...
17:17:58 <NobodyCam> rloo: ++
17:18:07 <yuriyz> +1 for create a priority review list
17:18:11 <jroll> NobodyCam: under release status on the whiteboard, I put my view of the priorities for the rest of this cycle... deva seemed to agree with them
17:18:29 <NobodyCam> awesome then I'll start with that
17:19:07 <devananda> ++
17:19:15 <NobodyCam> good to move on to the first item on the agenda
17:20:08 <NobodyCam> #topic Config drive support for hybrid whole disk images
17:20:16 <NobodyCam> stendulker: thats you
17:20:29 <stendulker> Thanks NobodyCam
17:20:49 <stendulker> This is about hybrid whole disk images. We cannot add config drive to such images
17:21:11 <stendulker> parted/sfdisk recognise these images as GPT based while creating config drive
17:21:31 <NobodyCam> this feels kinda like a bug
17:21:32 <stendulker> these images cannot be booted in BIOS boot mode once config dive is created
17:21:48 <stendulker> No error is thrown during config drive ceration
17:21:51 <devananda> I have an unnatural aversion to using expect scripts
17:21:58 <jroll> +1 heh
17:22:12 <stendulker> I have removed expect and using sgdisk instead...
17:22:16 <lucasagomes> stendulker, I remember we investigate it a bit, do you still have the pre/pos partition layout ?
17:22:28 <devananda> sgdisk ++
17:22:31 <stendulker> was trying to use expect to use 'parted'
17:22:36 <stendulker> but that did not work
17:22:46 <devananda> lucasagomes: remember when you switched things to parted, I believe some folks raised concerns about things like this and the need to support sgdisk ....
17:22:50 <stendulker> have used sgdisk/gdisk combination and poated a patch today
17:22:54 <jroll> so... is there a question on this topic, other than "can people review this pls?"
17:22:59 <TheJulia> it sounds like the gpt table just needs to be repaired
17:22:59 <stendulker> but that will not help in bios boot mode
17:23:11 <lucasagomes> devananda, yeah. There was some discussion about whether use parted or sgdisk
17:23:29 <NobodyCam> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1486887
17:23:30 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1486887 in Ironic "Config drive creation fails in UEFI boot mode for whole disk image " [High,In progress] - Assigned to Shivanand Tendulker (stendulker)
17:23:35 <stendulker> i openend it for discussion as i was not able to find any solution for bios boot mode for such images
17:24:08 <lucasagomes> stendulker, so did sgdisk work?
17:24:16 <stendulker> currently coreos, opensuse creates such hybrid images
17:24:33 <stendulker> sgdisk works only in UEFI boot mode. No approach works for bios
17:24:53 <lucasagomes> stendulker, right, have you tried to manually add a partition on the image
17:24:57 <jlvillal> Are there any Python libraries to manipulate partition tables?
17:25:07 <lucasagomes> and boot it in BIOS mode? just to see if that works
17:25:09 <jroll> so this might be a terrible suggestion, but one way to solve this is to pre-create the configdrive partition in the image, label it config-2. the agent will pick this up, as will cloud-init
17:25:14 <lucasagomes> jlvillal, blivet
17:25:20 <jlvillal> thx
17:25:34 <lucasagomes> jlvillal, that's what anaconda uses underneath, it's neat
17:25:43 <stendulker> lucasagomes: manually in the sense?
17:25:51 <lucasagomes> stendulker, yes
17:26:28 <stendulker> lucasagomes: I tried the steps manually to ensure drive is created. It creates, but boot fails
17:26:55 <stendulker> jroll: that looks better...
17:27:21 <NobodyCam> stendulker: do you have a paste of the actual error?
17:27:34 <NobodyCam> or when boot fails
17:27:44 <stendulker> also there is no config drive support for any of iscsi based drivers when whole disk image is deployed
17:27:46 <jroll> stendulker: it would be nice to work with stock coreos images, but this is a workaround that works... that's what the coreos onmetal image does
17:28:27 <stendulker> NobodyCam: CoreOs gives red screen on HP Proliant. Opensuse no error is returned, but node goes for reboot perpetually
17:28:57 <devananda> should we continue this discussion on the bug(s) ? seems like it may take more investigation than meeting time permits
17:29:21 <stendulker> NobodyCam: I will capture screen shot of coreos boot failure
17:29:27 <NobodyCam> devananda: yes... but this is the only item on the agenda to
17:29:29 <NobodyCam> day
17:29:35 <jroll> devananda: +1, I don't think there's anything contentious here... I don't see any major questions
17:29:40 <devananda> lots of time for open discussion then :)
17:29:45 <jroll> it's just "people doing work"
17:29:49 <devananda> jroll: right
17:30:16 <TheJulia> stendulker: can you also see if you can dump partition table data for what is on disk when that boot failed, for additional context
17:30:26 <NobodyCam> are we good with taking this to the review / bug?
17:30:42 <jroll> or main channel even :P
17:30:46 <devananda> ++
17:30:49 <NobodyCam> thT TOO
17:30:53 <NobodyCam> gah
17:30:58 <rloo> ++
17:30:58 <NobodyCam> that too :)
17:30:58 <stendulker> TheJulia: sure
17:31:02 <TheJulia> stendulker: Thanks
17:31:08 <jroll> thanks!
17:31:15 <jroll> and thank you stendulker for working on it :)
17:31:23 <NobodyCam> ok then let jump into :
17:31:26 <NobodyCam> #topic Open Discussion
17:32:11 <devananda> anyone want to discuss summit ideas?
17:32:23 <jroll> I like summits
17:32:25 <NobodyCam> just FYI.. I will be making the trek back to cali starting on friday
17:32:26 <jroll> :P
17:32:37 <jroll> I definitely want to do a retro on this cycle
17:32:39 * jlvillal is glad he got approved last week to attend summit :)
17:32:48 <jroll> whether that's a session or part of the group thing friday
17:32:50 <NobodyCam> so I'll be afk fri thru prob tues / wed
17:32:50 <jroll> jlvillal: \o/
17:32:55 <jlvillal> :)
17:33:12 <jroll> NobodyCam: woot
17:33:20 <jroll> you just missed the heat wave :P
17:33:29 <NobodyCam> ya :)
17:33:31 <devananda> jroll: retro on releases in particular would be great
17:33:34 <jlvillal> Not sure if in retro, maybe discussion a little on gate breakages. For like two weeks it seemed our gate repeatedly got broken. Can we do anything to help prevent that better?
17:33:45 <jroll> devananda: +1
17:33:47 <NobodyCam> jlvillal: ++
17:33:51 <devananda> jlvillal: is there a summary somewhere of what/how/why it broke?
17:34:12 <jlvillal> I don't think so. I know Neutron hit us. oslo.versioned.objects hit us.
17:34:15 <NobodyCam> there are notes on the whiteboard i beleieve
17:34:21 <jlvillal> Maybe other people remember other reasons.
17:34:31 <rloo> ubuntu problem
17:34:35 <jlvillal> Oh yeah, I think on the whiteboard we have been archiving them.
17:34:38 <devananda> k, i think that'd be a great session
17:34:41 <jroll> ++
17:34:57 <jroll> maybe more generally "how do we improve our gate" starting with the breakages
17:35:00 <devananda> we should start the discussion with a post-mortem report // details of each breakage
17:35:09 <dtantsur> jroll, + functional testing, I guess
17:35:14 <jroll> yep
17:35:40 <jlvillal> +1  though realizing I have made little progress :(
17:36:00 <jroll> jlvillal: lekha should be at the summit iirc
17:36:02 <devananda> we have implicit dependencies on things like distros, but being implicit, i suspect we could all do with better awraeness of them
17:36:17 <devananda> and ew have explicit dependencies on other projects (eg, oslo, neutron, etc) -- some of which maybe those projects aren't aware of
17:36:18 <rloo> as long as the session isn't about 'we need functional testing'. we know that.
17:36:23 <jlvillal> jroll: Great.
17:36:24 <devananda> rloo: ++
17:36:45 <devananda> "test all the things" makes a great tshirt, but a very short session
17:36:57 <NobodyCam> lol ++
17:37:01 <jroll> hah
17:37:16 <jlvillal> A hackathon type session might be useful.
17:37:27 <jlvillal> For functional testing.
17:37:32 <jroll> yep, sounds like a good friday thing
17:37:38 <rloo> i'd like our summit sessions to have goals, so that there are action items or concrete things out of them.
17:37:44 <NobodyCam> thats what friday is for? hackathon stuff no?
17:37:59 <jroll> friday is for "whatever"
17:38:01 <jlvillal> Please make it early on Friday.  My flight is at 4pm I think :(
17:38:05 <rloo> we only have a room for fri AM, so that isn't much time.
17:38:28 <NobodyCam> oh
17:38:31 <rloo> i think it took us about an hour just to figure out what we were going to do on Fri. in last summit.
17:38:36 * lucasagomes got disconected :-(
17:38:40 <devananda> yea - friday is always awkward
17:38:47 <jroll> lucasagomes: we're talking about summit sessions
17:38:56 <devananda> we've never really used hte afternoon, so this time it looks like we won't have one
17:39:06 <jroll> rloo: sounds like a good reason to get organized ahead of time :)
17:39:10 <lucasagomes> stendulker, (sorry all) I lost the scrollback. Is it a public image?
17:39:21 <devananda> jlvillal: by friday we'll all be fried -- hacking on code is not likely, based on past experience
17:39:24 <stendulker> lucasagomes: yes.
17:39:32 <lucasagomes> stendulker, we talk about it on #openstack-ironic
17:39:37 <rloo> yeah, i think the more organized we are, the more we'll get out of the sessions. my hope anyway :)
17:39:47 <NobodyCam> rloo: ++
17:39:50 <jlvillal> lucasagomes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-meeting-3/%23openstack-meeting-3.2015-09-14.log.html
17:39:51 <devananda> rloo: ++
17:39:51 <stendulker> lucasagomes: ok
17:39:58 <lucasagomes> jlvillal, thanks
17:40:00 <jlvillal> devananda: Okay, makes sense but :(
17:40:02 <stendulker> lucasagomes: thank you
17:40:47 <rloo> IF we have time and can take a look at specs before summit, would be good to have one session to hash out contentious/disagreements with particular specs.
17:40:53 <devananda> jlvillal: i mean, you're more than welcome to code on friday!
17:41:01 <devananda> jlvillal: just don't expect me to :p
17:41:29 <jlvillal> devananda: Okay :)
17:41:41 <NobodyCam> it is true that by friday /me 's brain is cooked
17:41:52 <lucasagomes> jlvillal, re gate breakage https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220516/ this will help (already merged)
17:41:55 <dtantsur> it could a bit better this time, as we don't have Monday
17:42:00 <lucasagomes> since now we can test the swift module with ironic
17:42:01 <JoshNang> NobodyCam: at least it's only 4 days this time
17:42:10 <NobodyCam> :)
17:42:32 <rloo> wrt the liberty etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-ironic-design-summit-ideas
17:42:35 <devananda> dtantsur: monday is the board meeting, so some of us will still be busy ...
17:42:48 <dtantsur> oh, I feel sorry for some of us
17:42:54 <rloo> i always find it useful (or would think it would be useful if it were there) if folks put their names beside the stuff they enter there
17:43:19 <NobodyCam> rloo: ++ just like on the agenda
17:43:33 <dtantsur> rloo, done
17:44:45 <NobodyCam> anything else for OD?
17:45:03 <jroll> one thing
17:45:10 <NobodyCam> :)
17:45:12 <jroll> devananda: when/how do we want to decide on sessions? :)
17:45:23 <jroll> in a meeting, separate thing, in a secret cave?
17:45:49 <devananda> shh. don't tell anyone about the secret cave :p
17:45:57 <TheJulia> wait, you have a secret cave?!?!?!
17:46:04 <NobodyCam> lol
17:46:24 <jroll> oops
17:46:37 <Madasi> bet it's really a hollow volcano
17:46:40 <devananda> we can change them up to roughly the week before the summit
17:46:48 * NobodyCam now unders stands the "same bat time/channel" reffs
17:47:09 <devananda> so let's keep discussing on the 'pad and in channel for another month
17:47:30 <jroll> sounds good
17:47:36 <devananda> hopefully we can distill things down to the right # of slots by mid october
17:47:44 <jroll> gives us time to review specs and such too
17:47:47 <devananda> yup
17:48:05 <lucasagomes> ++
17:48:07 <jroll> cool
17:48:15 <devananda> I'd rather keep the official lists empty until then, than have to keep changing them as we go
17:48:36 <NobodyCam> makes sense
17:48:37 <devananda> also this gives us time to earmark joint sessions // work with other project teams to decide which track will host it
17:49:05 <jroll> yeah, sounds good
17:49:21 <jlvillal> For joint sessions, are their other projects besides Nova and Neutron we want to work on things with?
17:49:36 <NobodyCam> maybe oslo?
17:49:37 <jlvillal> Those are the first two that pop to mind for me.
17:49:46 <dtantsur> tripleo? not sure here though
17:49:51 <jroll> people keep asking about an ironic/neutron session, what do we need to talk about there? the design is done/solid/approved...
17:49:58 <devananda> kolla? magnum?
17:49:59 <rloo> last summit, we talked with cinder but not sure what happened with that work
17:50:08 <dtantsur> devananda, oh, that might be interesting
17:50:20 <NobodyCam> kolla's with guns?
17:50:21 <devananda> tripleo is using ironic in their cloud region
17:50:28 <NobodyCam> :p
17:50:39 <jroll> unfortunately magnum on baremetal isn't terribly useful without neutron networking stuff :(
17:50:42 <smoriya> roo: I posted the spec for cinder integration
17:50:43 <NobodyCam> fyi *ten* minutes
17:50:55 <devananda> jroll: right. but folks are def interested in magnum-on-ironic
17:51:03 <lucasagomes> ++
17:51:04 <rloo> smoriya: ah, thx
17:51:05 <smoriya> rloo: I posted the spec for cinder integration
17:51:16 <thiagop> smoriya: link?
17:51:19 <jroll> rloo: so I talked about in-band volume stuff with nova at their midcycle... they don't love the methods but are cool with the feature. just needs to happen
17:51:20 <lucasagomes> there's cinder too, but I think we ironed out a good part of it last cycle
17:51:26 <smoriya> thiagop: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200496/
17:51:30 <devananda> smoriya: awesome. I'd love to see that work happen during Mitaka
17:51:31 <jroll> yeah, idk if we need a session with cinder
17:51:34 <thiagop> smoriya: thanks
17:51:57 <smoriya> and I'd like you guys to review it.
17:52:03 <jlvillal> I am interested in Kolla in general. Ironic integration sounds good too.
17:52:11 <smoriya> mgoddard and I are discussing the target_info format in instance_info.
17:52:20 <smoriya> L119 in the spec.
17:52:27 <smoriya> We'd like to know other guys opinions.
17:52:43 <smoriya> thiagop: np
17:52:49 <devananda> jroll: wdyt about trying to land the cinder spec after the 4.2 release, but before the summit, so that folks can start on the code?
17:53:02 <jroll> devananda: I would like to do that for every feature :)
17:53:11 <devananda> jroll: there's a lot of features :p
17:53:17 <jroll> you get what I mean :P
17:53:19 <devananda> yup
17:53:21 <NobodyCam> devananda: oh thats a really good idea
17:53:37 <jroll> we should be doing lots of spec reviews after 4.2
17:53:50 <lucasagomes> smoriya, added to my list will take a look at it!
17:53:52 <jroll> which reminds me...
17:53:54 <lucasagomes> thanks for the spec
17:53:58 <jroll> devananda: we should have a larger stable maint team
17:54:03 <devananda> so yah, i agre with jroll -- if we can land that spec, then we probably don't need a joint session with cinder
17:54:06 <jroll> devananda: more than just you, at least
17:54:10 <devananda> jroll: yes!
17:54:17 <smoriya> lucasagomes: Thanks!
17:54:43 <NobodyCam> sounds like jroll just volentereed
17:54:44 <devananda> jroll: does RS do anything with stablemaint?
17:54:59 <devananda> my impression is "no" but I could be totally wrong on that
17:55:06 <NobodyCam> *five* minutes
17:55:21 <jroll> devananda: not that I'm aware of, but who knows
17:55:23 <rloo> what's RS?
17:55:28 <jroll> rackspace
17:55:30 <NobodyCam> rack space
17:55:31 <jroll> (I presume0
17:55:46 <rloo> jroll: thx. (d'oh)
17:55:51 <jroll> devananda: but my real need is to not be blocked on you to approve stable branch bugfixes :P
17:55:58 <jroll> s/my/the/
17:56:18 <devananda> jroll: i'm happy to share +A rights on that with you, as you've been doing a lot of the release things anyway
17:56:18 <jroll> we should probably have at least 3-4 cores with stable branch permissions
17:56:42 <lucasagomes> devananda, jroll ++
17:56:46 <devananda> historically, stable-maint was kept really small
17:56:53 <NobodyCam> ++
17:56:56 <jroll> right
17:57:02 <lucasagomes> adam is not around as well so, it would be good to have jroll as a core there too
17:57:06 <rloo> i'm happy with 2. if more than two, I'm fine with that too.
17:57:09 <jroll> maybe I should chat with the stable team about this stuff... or doug or someone
17:57:17 <jroll> whether we intend to keep it small or what
17:57:19 <devananda> jroll: yah. there's some stuff to think about
17:57:26 <devananda> i agree it should be more than just me, tho
17:57:35 <rloo> adam has basically bowed out so he doesn't count.
17:57:36 <jroll> yep
17:57:41 <devananda> rloo: right
17:58:13 <NobodyCam> *two* minutes
17:58:33 * NobodyCam would vote for adding jroll
17:58:37 <dtantsur> ++
17:58:46 <jroll> yay, more work \o/
17:58:49 <lucasagomes> lol
17:59:02 <rloo> jroll: look on the bright side, more POWER!
17:59:07 <jroll> lol
17:59:10 <jroll> begin the corruption
17:59:16 <jroll> 30 second mark
17:59:19 <dtantsur> jroll, also would be nice to have a formal release of IPA around Liberty...
17:59:29 <jroll> dtantsur: is trown not working on that?
17:59:29 <devananda> reminder - PTL and TC voting is coming up -- dont forget to go out and vote!
17:59:36 <devananda> (next week and hte week after)
17:59:46 <dtantsur> jroll, I think he does
18:00:03 <jroll> dtantsur: I'm happy to push the release tags or whatever if it's set up to do so
18:00:06 * jroll back to channel
18:00:08 <jroll> thanks all!
18:00:09 <NobodyCam> last comments
18:00:12 <dtantsur> thanks
18:00:12 <jlvillal> Speaking of broken gate....
18:00:13 <lucasagomes> cheers
18:00:13 <NobodyCam> Thank you all
18:00:17 <jlvillal> I think we are broken again :(
18:00:17 <NobodyCam> Great meeting
18:00:25 <NobodyCam> uggh
18:00:29 <NobodyCam> #endmeeting