16:01:24 #startmeeting interopwg 16:01:25 Meeting started Wed Jan 31 16:01:24 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglute_s. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:01:26 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:01:29 The meeting name has been set to 'interopwg' 16:01:32 o/ 16:01:38 Hello Everyone! Happy Wednesday! 16:01:50 #chair markvoelker hogepodge 16:01:51 Current chairs: eglute_s hogepodge markvoelker 16:01:51 o/ 16:03:07 #topic Agenda 16:03:11 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropWhistler.5 16:03:20 Please update agenda as needed! 16:03:57 Anyone else here for interopwg meeting? 16:04:11 * eglute_s waves to markvoelker and mguiney 16:04:37 eglute_s: yes 16:04:41 hi 16:04:41 While we're on the subject of people being here or not: FYI I'll be traveling in Asia next week so likely unable to join 16:04:44 Hello georgk! 16:04:58 markvoelker thank you for letting us know! 16:05:03 happy travels! 16:05:13 #topic 2018.02 guideline 16:05:30 o/ 16:05:37 I still have not had a chance to create the new guideline from the next.json. hopefully this week is better 16:06:11 eglute_s: if it helps, I have a bit of time right after the meeting today and can do it then. 16:06:15 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521602/ is still an ongoing discussion, if anyone wants to join in 16:06:29 we will present 2018.02 to the board for approval 16:06:44 during the PTG board meeting 16:07:09 besides that, i dont have any other updates for the guideline. 16:07:23 #topic NFV Vertical 16:07:26 Hi 16:07:45 thank you georgk for doing the scoring 16:08:10 last meeting we discussed having NFV vertical to present for the board at the end of February as well 16:08:15 just some basic comments as discussed last time 16:08:39 does the end february sound reasonable for the NFV guideline? 16:09:16 eglute_s: I'm thinking no. Just doesn't seem like there's enough meat there yet to be useful. 16:09:34 markvoelker even as advisory? 16:11:36 Right now we basically have Powered + trunks and we're still discussing BGPVPN, right? 16:12:13 markvoelker: BGPVPN has been merged 16:12:22 If the advisory guideline just adds that...doesn't feel sufficient to me. We still haven't addressed EPA support, etc. 16:12:32 markvoelker: and I am wondering is the heat add-on could be included 16:13:00 this is what we have so far: #link https://github.com/openstack/interop/blob/master/verticals/nfv.next.json 16:13:40 not sure if you have seen this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/539536/. comments are very welcome 16:13:45 georgk i think adding heat add on is a good idea 16:14:05 georgk not yet! 16:14:31 goergk: yes, I've seen that one (and thanks for evaluating! It's very useful.) 16:14:56 But for several categories there we've basically said "we think these are things you really need in an NFV platform but there's no testing for them." 16:15:36 If there's going to be a trademark/logo program associated with this, it feels to me like it won't be very useful to anyone until we can actually include some of those things... 16:15:47 I'm happy to discuss though. =) 16:16:18 At a minimum, I do think we want to update the board on some of the findings here (like lack of tests for SR-IOV, EPA, etc) 16:17:02 markvoelker agreed on updates 16:17:32 ok, so agreement is that so far, not enough for NVF? 16:17:49 markvoelker: ok. 16:18:02 it feels like a topic for the PTG... 16:18:06 georgk i think what you have in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/539536/ is good. The lack of tests is def. an issue 16:18:10 test coverage, I mean 16:18:23 georgk yes, please add it to the topic list for PTG 16:18:46 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDublin2018PTG 16:19:09 eglute_s: yes, sure 16:19:15 thank you georgk 16:19:40 anything else on the NFV vertical? 16:20:14 eglute_s: let's perhaps record an action for you and I to put together a board update doc on where we're at with the NFV vertical for the BoD meeting in Dublin? 16:20:33 (we'll send it out for other folks to chime in on once we have a rough draft, per the usual) 16:20:45 #action markvoelker and eglute_s will put together a board update doc on where we're at with the NFV vertical for the BoD meeting in Dublin 16:21:29 anything else? 16:22:05 #topic Heat Orchestration add-ons 16:22:23 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/529836 16:22:31 I had asked Rico a couple weeks to respond to markvoelker's comment, but he has not 16:22:39 markvoelker do you think it is ok to merge as is? 16:23:48 I think there was a response somewhere (email maybe) saying basically version discovery didn't really exist yet....I'll double check 16:24:01 ah ok. i must have missed it 16:24:04 * tests for discovery that is 16:24:21 in that case, merge? 16:24:40 Let me track down the version discovery thing after the meeting and I'll leave a comment 16:24:44 Probably ok though 16:24:50 Can always be added later 16:25:20 thank you markvoelker, will let you update it and/or merge :) 16:25:33 #topic Dublin PTG 16:26:05 hogepodge are the days or interop/refstack confirmed? 16:28:05 thank you georgk for adding topics. Everyone else also please add: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDublin2018PTG 16:28:55 i really like the newest topic. 16:29:08 though not sure we can get entire TC in the room 16:29:16 hogepodge any news on the dates for interop? 16:30:02 * eglute_s waits for hogepodge to respond 16:30:38 Thursday Friday 16:30:52 hogepodge thank you for confirming! Interop on Thursday? 16:31:44 Had to find the google sheet for scheduling. 16:32:22 hogepodge thank you :) 16:32:25 We can be flexible on the scheduling. Whatever works best. I think some of the refstack team was wondering why we couldn't get Wednesday to help link their work together. 16:32:37 So Thursday might be popular for everyone. ;-) 16:33:11 hogepodge understood. Friday might be easier to get other people to attend I suppose, if everyone will be done with things 16:33:11 there is also a TC half day on Friday, which could be used for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521602/ :) 16:33:37 mugsie i like the idea of discussing it with TC :) 16:34:08 mugsie any chance you could help us schedule some time with TC 16:34:30 I can bring it up in the office hours tomorrow 16:34:45 mugsie that would be great, thank you 16:34:56 * mugsie wants resolution on this soon 16:35:22 thank you mugsie for taking the lead on this 16:35:30 np 16:35:44 anything else for today? 16:35:52 hogepodge: can you post a link to the google sheet here? 16:36:23 hogepodge and in the ehterpad? 16:36:33 I don't know if it's publicly available. 16:36:53 maybe that´s why I didn´t find it 16:36:59 :-) 16:37:04 Looks like it is, non-editable. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRmqAAQZA1rIzlNJpVp-X60-z6jMn_95BKWtf0csGT9LkDharY-mppI25KjiuRasmK413MxXcoSU7ki/pubhtml?gid=1374855307&single=true 16:37:17 hogepodge: thank you 16:37:26 thakn you hogepodge 16:38:21 anything else for today? 16:39:03 thanks everyone, have a good the rest of the day!! 16:39:06 #endmeeting