16:01:24 <eglute_s> #startmeeting interopwg
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16:01:32 <markvoelker> o/
16:01:38 <eglute_s> Hello Everyone! Happy Wednesday!
16:01:50 <eglute_s> #chair markvoelker hogepodge
16:01:51 <openstack> Current chairs: eglute_s hogepodge markvoelker
16:01:51 <mguiney> o/
16:03:07 <eglute_s> #topic Agenda
16:03:11 <eglute_s> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropWhistler.5
16:03:20 <eglute_s> Please update agenda as needed!
16:03:57 <eglute_s> Anyone else here for interopwg meeting?
16:04:11 * eglute_s waves to markvoelker and mguiney
16:04:37 <georgk> eglute_s: yes
16:04:41 <georgk> hi
16:04:41 <markvoelker> While we're on the subject of people being here or not: FYI I'll be traveling in Asia next week so likely unable to join
16:04:44 <eglute_s> Hello georgk!
16:04:58 <eglute_s> markvoelker thank you for letting us know!
16:05:03 <eglute_s> happy travels!
16:05:13 <eglute_s> #topic 2018.02 guideline
16:05:30 <mguiney> o/
16:05:37 <eglute_s> I still have not had a chance to create the new guideline from the next.json. hopefully this week is better
16:06:11 <markvoelker> eglute_s: if it helps, I have a bit of time right after the meeting today and can do it then.
16:06:15 <eglute_s> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521602/ is still an ongoing discussion, if anyone wants to join in
16:06:29 <eglute_s> we will present 2018.02 to the board for approval
16:06:44 <eglute_s> during the PTG board meeting
16:07:09 <eglute_s> besides that, i dont have any other updates for the guideline.
16:07:23 <eglute_s> #topic NFV Vertical
16:07:26 <hogepodge> Hi
16:07:45 <eglute_s> thank you georgk for doing the scoring
16:08:10 <eglute_s> last meeting we discussed having NFV vertical to present for the board at the end of February as well
16:08:15 <georgk> just some basic comments as discussed last time
16:08:39 <eglute_s> does the end february sound reasonable for the NFV guideline?
16:09:16 <markvoelker> eglute_s: I'm thinking no.  Just doesn't seem like there's enough meat there yet to be useful.
16:09:34 <eglute_s> markvoelker even as advisory?
16:11:36 <markvoelker> Right now we basically have Powered + trunks and we're still discussing BGPVPN, right?
16:12:13 <georgk> markvoelker:  BGPVPN has been merged
16:12:22 <markvoelker> If the advisory guideline just adds that...doesn't feel sufficient to me.  We still haven't addressed EPA support, etc.
16:12:32 <georgk> markvoelker: and I am wondering is the heat add-on could be included
16:13:00 <eglute_s> this is what we have so far: #link https://github.com/openstack/interop/blob/master/verticals/nfv.next.json
16:13:40 <georgk> not sure if you have seen this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/539536/. comments are very welcome
16:13:45 <eglute_s> georgk i think adding heat add on is a good idea
16:14:05 <eglute_s> georgk not yet!
16:14:31 <markvoelker> goergk: yes, I've seen that one (and thanks for evaluating!  It's very useful.)
16:14:56 <markvoelker> But for several categories there we've basically said "we think these are things you really need in an NFV platform but there's no testing for them."
16:15:36 <markvoelker> If there's going to be a trademark/logo program associated with this, it feels to me like it won't be very useful to anyone until we can actually include some of those things...
16:15:47 <markvoelker> I'm happy to discuss though. =)
16:16:18 <markvoelker> At a minimum, I do think we want to update the board on some of the findings here (like lack of tests for SR-IOV, EPA, etc)
16:17:02 <eglute_s> markvoelker agreed on updates
16:17:32 <eglute_s> ok, so agreement is that so far, not enough for NVF?
16:17:49 <georgk> markvoelker: ok.
16:18:02 <georgk> it feels like a topic for the PTG...
16:18:06 <eglute_s> georgk i think what you have in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/539536/ is good. The lack of tests is def. an issue
16:18:10 <georgk> test coverage, I mean
16:18:23 <eglute_s> georgk yes, please add it to the topic list for PTG
16:18:46 <eglute_s> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDublin2018PTG
16:19:09 <georgk> eglute_s: yes, sure
16:19:15 <eglute_s> thank you georgk
16:19:40 <eglute_s> anything else on the NFV vertical?
16:20:14 <markvoelker> eglute_s: let's perhaps record an action for you and I to put together a board update doc on where we're at with the NFV vertical for the BoD meeting in Dublin?
16:20:33 <markvoelker> (we'll send it out for other folks to chime in on once we have a rough draft, per the usual)
16:20:45 <eglute_s> #action markvoelker and eglute_s will put together a board update doc on where we're at with the NFV vertical for the BoD meeting in Dublin
16:21:29 <eglute_s> anything else?
16:22:05 <eglute_s> #topic Heat Orchestration add-ons
16:22:23 <eglute_s> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/529836
16:22:31 <eglute_s> I had asked Rico a couple weeks to respond to markvoelker's comment, but he has not
16:22:39 <eglute_s> markvoelker do you think it is ok to merge as is?
16:23:48 <markvoelker> I think there was a response somewhere (email maybe) saying basically version discovery didn't really exist yet....I'll double check
16:24:01 <eglute_s> ah ok. i must have missed it
16:24:04 <markvoelker> * tests for discovery that is
16:24:21 <eglute_s> in that case, merge?
16:24:40 <markvoelker> Let me track down the version discovery thing after the meeting and I'll leave a comment
16:24:44 <markvoelker> Probably ok though
16:24:50 <markvoelker> Can always be added later
16:25:20 <eglute_s> thank you markvoelker, will let you update it and/or merge :)
16:25:33 <eglute_s> #topic Dublin PTG
16:26:05 <eglute_s> hogepodge are the days or interop/refstack confirmed?
16:28:05 <eglute_s> thank you georgk for adding topics. Everyone else also please add: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDublin2018PTG
16:28:55 <eglute_s> i really like the newest topic.
16:29:08 <eglute_s> though not sure we can get entire TC in the room
16:29:16 <eglute_s> hogepodge any news on the dates for interop?
16:30:02 * eglute_s waits for hogepodge to respond
16:30:38 <hogepodge> Thursday Friday
16:30:52 <eglute_s> hogepodge thank you for confirming! Interop on Thursday?
16:31:44 <hogepodge> Had to find the google sheet for scheduling.
16:32:22 <eglute_s> hogepodge thank you :)
16:32:25 <hogepodge> We can be flexible on the scheduling. Whatever works best. I think some of the refstack team was wondering why we couldn't get Wednesday to help link their work together.
16:32:37 <hogepodge> So Thursday might be popular for everyone. ;-)
16:33:11 <eglute_s> hogepodge understood. Friday might be easier to get other people to attend I suppose, if everyone will be done with things
16:33:11 <mugsie> there is also a TC half day on Friday, which could be used for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521602/ :)
16:33:37 <eglute_s> mugsie i like the idea of discussing it with TC :)
16:34:08 <eglute_s> mugsie any chance you could help us schedule some time with TC
16:34:30 <mugsie> I can bring it up in the office hours tomorrow
16:34:45 <eglute_s> mugsie that would be great, thank you
16:34:56 * mugsie wants resolution on this soon
16:35:22 <eglute_s> thank you mugsie for taking the lead on this
16:35:30 <mugsie> np
16:35:44 <eglute_s> anything else for today?
16:35:52 <georgk> hogepodge: can you post a link to the google sheet here?
16:36:23 <eglute_s> hogepodge and in the ehterpad?
16:36:33 <hogepodge> I don't know if it's publicly available.
16:36:53 <georgk> maybe that´s why I didn´t find it
16:36:59 <georgk> :-)
16:37:04 <hogepodge> Looks like it is, non-editable. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRmqAAQZA1rIzlNJpVp-X60-z6jMn_95BKWtf0csGT9LkDharY-mppI25KjiuRasmK413MxXcoSU7ki/pubhtml?gid=1374855307&single=true
16:37:17 <georgk> hogepodge: thank you
16:37:26 <eglute_s> thakn you hogepodge
16:38:21 <eglute_s> anything else for today?
16:39:03 <eglute_s> thanks everyone, have a good the rest of the day!!
16:39:06 <eglute_s> #endmeeting