16:01:11 <eglute> #startmeeting interopwg
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16:01:22 <eglute> #topic agenda
16:01:43 <eglute> Hello Everyone! Here is agenda for today's meeting: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreRoble.17
16:02:25 <catherineD> o/
16:02:34 <eglute> raise your hand if you are here for interop meeting :) o/
16:02:38 <eglute> hello catherineD!
16:03:07 <mguiney> o/
16:03:17 * catherineD waves at eglute:
16:03:24 * eglute waves to mguiney and catherineD
16:03:53 <eglute> please take a look at this and add things to agenda as needed: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreRoble.17
16:04:23 <eglute> #topic 2017.08 guideline
16:04:39 <eglute> mguiney thank you for submitting the glance scoring, you are first!
16:04:48 <eglute> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451167/
16:06:05 <eglute> mguiney do you think there will be any new capabilities for glance?
16:06:25 <mguiney> it doesn't look like it, thus far
16:06:55 <eglute> thats good! there is only so much that glance does anyways.
16:07:08 <eglute> for interop purposes at least
16:07:13 <mguiney> i did push a patch for review, but I am not sure on a few things, so I would love to get peoples' opinions on it
16:07:22 <mguiney> yes, it does seem that way
16:07:35 <eglute> mguiney what things are you not sure on?
16:07:37 <luzC> o/
16:07:54 * eglute waves at luzC
16:08:09 <mguiney> scoring for the two capabilities that are not required, specifically
16:08:32 <eglute> which ones?
16:09:15 <mguiney> remove and share
16:09:42 <mguiney> specifically, images-v2-^
16:09:54 <eglute> they appear to be scored?
16:10:41 <mguiney> yes, I did end up scoring them, because it didn't appear as though they needed to neccessarily be changed from the previous year, but I wasn't sure
16:10:57 <mguiney> so I figured it was best to check in and get other points of view
16:12:15 <mguiney> apologies for the trouble
16:12:45 <eglute> no trouble at all!
16:13:07 <eglute> i am looking now and trying to remember if we had any discussion on those two
16:13:16 <eglute> catherineD luzC do you by chance remember?
16:14:10 <mguiney> i do know that share requires 2 users and therefore cannot be required, and delete currently has no tests
16:14:13 <catherineD> I don't remember :-)
16:14:14 <mguiney> as per the notes
16:14:27 <luzC> neither do I
16:14:46 <eglute> ok, looks like we have notes there
16:14:47 <eglute> https://github.com/openstack/defcore/blob/master/working_materials/scoring.txt#L198
16:15:11 <eglute> so yes, for share, i think no change since we still don't want two sets of credentials
16:15:32 <mguiney> that is what I figured as well. cool
16:15:35 <eglute> mguiney did you check whether remove has any new tests?
16:17:09 <mguiney> I did, and I didn't see any new ones, but I do plan on rechecking just to make sure
16:17:36 <mguiney> There didn't appear to be any, though
16:17:43 <eglute> thank you for checking mguiney!
16:18:00 <eglute> do you have any other questions about glance?
16:19:25 <eglute> in that case, lets move on!
16:19:30 <mguiney> nope! it looks as though the scoring for the rest of the capabilities was fairly straightforward
16:19:53 <eglute> thank you mguiney!
16:19:54 <eglute> is zhipeng around?
16:20:12 <eglute> doesnt appear that way, he was working on nova
16:20:39 <eglute> hogepodge also not around?
16:21:24 <mguiney> i think he is at kubecon
16:21:25 <eglute> Mark is out traveling, so no updates from him either
16:21:32 <eglute> mguiney oh thats right!
16:21:47 <eglute> no updates from me on swift yet either
16:21:56 * eglute wishes she was at kubecon
16:22:08 * luzC luz too
16:22:09 <eglute> luzC do you have any updates on keystone?
16:22:13 <mguiney> it does look pretty cool, from the pics i've seen
16:23:48 <luzC> not yet eglute I chat briefly with Lance and he mentioned still working on the list for v3, likely to be the same specially since there is no non-admin tests on tempest
16:23:53 <eglute> luzC, any updates?
16:24:04 <eglute> ah cool, thank you luzC!
16:24:43 <eglute> with that, i think we are out of updates for the next guideline. unless anyone have something to add?
16:25:41 <eglute> i think the rest of the topics were either Mark or Chris.
16:26:10 <eglute> if anyone has things to add on any of them, please let us know
16:26:35 <eglute> #topic patch on test names
16:26:39 <eglute> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450346/
16:26:44 <eglute> thank you catherineD for submitting this
16:27:03 <catherineD> eglute: yw
16:27:05 <eglute> I took a quick look, it looks good to me.
16:27:18 <eglute> will give a chance for others to review it as well
16:27:23 <catherineD> so basically, the FQN was just wrong ..
16:27:51 <catherineD> so I think we should just remove it from next.json because no one would have been ever tested it
16:28:06 <eglute> wonder why we didnt catch it before
16:28:29 <eglute> catherineD if you corrected the name, why do you think we should remove it?
16:28:59 <catherineD> maybe people only test using the required list ... these are in advisory
16:29:20 <catherineD> because no one can ever test with that name
16:29:40 <eglute> catherineD i think you are right...
16:29:40 <catherineD> the reason for alias to for backward and forward compatibility ..
16:29:59 <eglute> i think since you corrected the name, i am inclined to leave it
16:30:02 <catherineD> for this test no one can ever test it in the past nor in the future
16:30:49 <eglute> mistakes will happen,
16:31:02 <eglute> and you caught the error, so thank you!
16:31:15 <catherineD> depending on what we decide here .. I can just add it as alias or remove it in next.json  ... but it is really dead code
16:31:58 <eglute> ok... we can leave it for next meeting to make final decission
16:32:26 <catherineD> sure ... this would be the first case ... so we could document the action for future reference
16:32:39 <eglute> catherineD true!
16:32:52 <eglute> catherineD would you update your PR with a suggestion to remove it?
16:33:19 <eglute> just the comments part
16:33:37 <catherineD> will do
16:33:42 <eglute> thank you catherineD!
16:33:51 <eglute> anything else for today's meeting?
16:34:33 <eglute> in that case, thank you catherineD, luzC and mguiney!!
16:34:41 <eglute> lets end early!
16:34:43 <Rockyg> bye guys!'
16:34:51 <eglute> oh hi Rockyg!
16:34:53 <eglute> bye Rockyg!
16:35:06 <catherineD> thank you!
16:35:17 <eglute> #endmeeting