19:03:20 #startmeeting infra 19:03:20 * Ng comes to order 19:03:20 Meeting started Tue Apr 7 19:03:20 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is fungi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:03:22 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 19:03:24 The meeting name has been set to 'infra' 19:03:34 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting 19:03:48 #topic Announcements 19:03:55 o/ 19:03:57 o/ 19:04:12 o/ 19:04:15 um, we should probably start thinking about summit sessions. that's the only psa i'm aware of for now 19:04:20 Duke won the NCAA Basketball Tournament last night 19:04:24 heh 19:04:34 #topic Actions from last meeting 19:04:36 did the ask.o.o migration happen yesterday? (I saw meeting logs, didn't read backscroll) 19:04:41 yep 19:04:44 cool :) 19:04:47 pleia2: yep 19:04:48 congrats to all 19:04:50 #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2015/infra.2015-03-31-19.00.html 19:04:51 mrmartin: nice work! 19:05:07 jeblair document openstack id deployment mechanism in http://ci.openstack.org/openstackid.html 19:05:11 looks like he did that 19:05:18 anybody have the url handy? 19:05:22 hi 19:05:44 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170974/ 19:06:09 #link https://review.openstack.org/170974 19:06:13 thanks pleia2 19:06:30 zaro to continue utf8 testing 19:06:41 i believe there's a script you hacked together 19:07:07 #link https://github.com/zaro0508/gerrit-db-migration 19:07:16 feedback on that would be useful 19:07:49 zaro test gerrit 2.10 19:07:57 i believe i am done with db migration testing. 19:08:10 #link https://github.com/zaro0508/gerrit-db-migration 19:08:14 okay, so 2.10 looks like it probably works? 19:08:28 no i haven't tested 2.10 19:08:38 i have only tested that utf8 19:08:43 oh, you're still talking about the first item 19:08:51 that script is for utf8 migration 19:08:54 db only 19:09:07 right, i had moved on to the next action item 19:09:30 okay, so the end result of that script was that utf8 was working under gerrit 2.8 after it ran? 19:09:46 not exactly. 19:10:16 I didn't check that gerrit works with the data after migrating it. i only check that the data looked good using db queries 19:10:38 to validate that gerrit will also require the git data. 19:11:19 that gerrit/that gerrit will start and run 19:11:19 which we have right? 19:11:45 right, got it. so you were mainly just testing that the utf8 transformation won't likely be a problem with our production data. did you similarly test that it did the right thing to a gerrit 2.8 (for example review-dev prior to upgrade)? 19:11:46 i would need the prod site info 19:12:23 yes, i tested that scenario on review-dev end to end and it does seem to work. 19:12:55 okay, great! so we should try it again production the next time we schedule an outage window to do other things 19:13:14 #action zaro test gerrit 2.10 19:13:15 yep. i pretty confident that it should work. 19:13:18 i guess that's still pending 19:13:31 yes, still 2.10 testing is still pending 19:14:12 wondering if i should push that script to review.o.o instead of on github? 19:14:30 probably not unless we think it's something we're going to run more than once in the future 19:14:33 anteaya cause a problem statement and requirements regarding election tooling to be sent to the infra list so various solutions can be discussed 19:14:34 just for review, then abandone afterwards 19:14:46 i guess this was lingering from a previous meeting agenda 19:14:57 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2015-April/002622.html 19:15:02 seems to have happened 19:15:04 that was sent 19:15:11 zaro: yeah, if you want, should be fine 19:15:14 mtreinish responded with some feedback 19:15:35 clarkb: I did? 19:15:39 continued discussion can happen on the ml in that case 19:15:41 oh the election stuff thread 19:15:46 yeah, would be good to respond to that with rationale as to why ML is not sufficient 19:15:53 Some discussion also happened on the ether pad 19:15:55 (or maybe it is!) 19:16:17 yup I think we can push it to the ml, curious to see what the election officials have to say about ml 19:16:30 #topic Priority Specs 19:16:46 this topic is conspicuously blank in the meeting agenda 19:17:18 looks like we skipped it last week too 19:17:25 fungi: maybe we're done wtih all of them 19:17:28 we have nodepool-dib, swift logs, zanata, and ask migration andprobably some others I forget 19:17:37 downstream-puppet 19:17:39 right, but those are in the next topic 19:17:42 fungi: we have the backup left only for askbot 19:17:52 so moving on 19:17:54 #topic Priority Efforts 19:18:12 let's see if we can get through these quickly 19:18:17 #topic Priority Efforts (Swift logs) 19:18:18 oh specs vs efforts, my reading comprehension is poor 19:18:22 clarkb: me too 19:18:27 clarkb: I had the exact same thought 19:18:30 any updates for swift logs? 19:18:34 yes 19:18:38 * mordred dances? 19:18:48 the devstack help footers are now uploaded to swift and rendered nicely 19:18:53 woot 19:19:00 you can see the devstack-gate specific dg tempest jobs for examples 19:19:08 excellent 19:19:17 but we have a bug in hosting non log file data via swift 19:19:29 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107267/ 19:19:49 that is the change that will begin to fix this issue, once we have that I think we are ready to move everything to swift 19:20:01 ahh, yep, saw that change proposed 19:20:03 though we can move jobs to swift now that don't have non log data (PNGs, javascript, etc) 19:20:23 I can propose some more changes to migrate jobs for which it should be safe 19:20:31 awesome 19:20:48 is that a firm action item, or just a conjecture? 19:21:05 might as well make it an action item 19:21:15 #action clarkb migrate more jobs to swift log hosting 19:21:15 #action clarkb propose some more changes to migrate jobs for which it should be safe 19:21:19 oops 19:21:21 #undo 19:21:22 Removing item from minutes: 19:21:24 double tap 19:21:40 that it for swift logs since last week? 19:21:48 I think so 19:22:04 #topic Priority Efforts (Nodepool DIB) 19:22:28 i saw there was some good discussion in mordred's planning etherpad for the shade stuff 19:22:39 So good news is we have an ubuntu image that works in both hp and rax now1 19:22:41 we also landed most of the shade things 19:22:43 and greghaynes did that 19:22:45 Link? 19:22:47 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/dib-nodepool-merges 19:23:04 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167003/ 19:23:08 bad news is my wifi is horrible 19:23:47 it's getting close to time to start landing "scary" nodepool changes, such as the ones that actually start consuming shade - I've been holding off because I'd like to be around to watch in case something goes south 19:24:15 this week will likely be bad for that because pycon - although, maybe it'll be good because jeblair and I will be in the same place at pycon 19:24:45 so maybe we can find a bar and land something scary 19:24:57 i'm finally getting some review movement on the bindep changes (thanks everyone!) and have a nodepool config change up to add "centos-6" nodes. the open dib-nodepool topic changes are getting longer than one page in gerrit now 19:25:00 greghaynes: have you tested it with centos or fedora yet? 19:25:03 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:dib-nodepool,n,z 19:25:14 mordred: there are some bugs with dub relating to that ATM, im currently working through them 19:25:33 yes, I have recently been spending a good chunk of my time only reviewing priority effort related changes 19:25:44 so make sure your changes have the topic set and I am more than likely to review them eventually 19:25:53 * mordred needs to go review clarkb's changes 19:25:56 (re getting review traction) 19:26:31 anything else urgent on nodepool dib? 19:26:57 #topic Priority Efforts (Migration to Zanata) 19:27:03 hi there 19:27:05 take it away pleia2 and cinerama 19:27:18 I've been making my way through cinerama's patches this morning, merged a few 19:27:22 so i made some good progress last week on the various patches in flight 19:27:46 we have a couple of things we ought to address with the zanata devs 19:28:04 next steps will be to get a server up and running and start testing stuff 19:28:19 i think that's it from me 19:28:24 see from line 125 in the etherpad for some plans: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zanata-install 19:28:30 I am more than happy to help with the jenkins job script stuff when you are ready for that 19:28:34 I think we're on track to get the dev server up and running 19:28:42 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zanata-install 19:28:45 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:zanata,n,z 19:28:46 but the puppet module is coming together nicely big +2 to spinning up a server 19:28:48 I do need translate-dev.o.o removed from DNS when someone has a chance so I can create the new record when I bring up the new server 19:29:00 i can do that right after the meeting 19:29:04 thanks fungi 19:29:04 ++ 19:29:10 or maybe during if chairing gets slow 19:29:15 (talk more, people!) 19:29:23 that's it from me, we're doing well :) 19:29:25 Duke won the NCAA Basketball Tournament last night 19:29:37 fungi: (that's all I've got, really) 19:30:13 huh. who knew people in north carolina played basketball? 19:30:22 #topic Priority Efforts (Downstream Puppet) 19:30:37 so i have several patches that landed, some others awaiting reviews 19:30:39 any important news here? 19:30:51 all are under the downstream-puppet topic 19:31:03 i created one to use puppet-puppet to setup puppet 19:31:11 heh 19:31:13 I have been trying to review those today. The one for cgit apache fork configs I need to test then approve if testing is happy 19:31:21 guess who can say more puppet on a sentence :) 19:31:21 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:downstream-puppet,n,z 19:32:01 common log server ones have been through a few reviews. should be stable now & ready to go 19:32:06 if changes for puppet-pip could land as well, will be helpful for us downstream 19:32:28 great, thanks for working on that! 19:32:34 anything else there? 19:32:50 not from my side 19:32:54 not for me 19:32:59 19:31:03 yolanda | i created one to use puppet-puppet to setup puppet 19:32:59 #topic Priority Efforts (Askbot migration) 19:33:02 best sentence ever 19:33:10 ok, so we are waiting for the backup patches to land 19:33:21 :) 19:33:23 and have a minor issue with smartcn jar, that's all 19:33:25 next meeting in here is the tc meeting 19:33:39 #link https://review.openstack.org/168117 19:33:42 yeah, I expect some decision, so we can move forward and finish the backup 19:33:46 that should likely land during 19:34:01 as soon as it does, we can approve 19:34:08 #link https://review.openstack.org/167631 19:34:09 ok, so we had a good progress 19:34:28 fungi: mrmartin I feel like I am missing a bunch of context here 19:34:29 and I not received with any feedbacks affecting the ask.o.o site 19:34:35 and yeah, we're running in production on an infra-managed server for ask.openstack.org now 19:34:44 the backup stuff I am familiar with 19:34:45 clarkb: what you missing? 19:35:08 what does the tc meeting have to do with ask.o.o and what is the smartcn jar problem? 19:35:12 i'll go ahead and raise the ttls for it back up to an hour shortly when i take out the other record pleia2 was asking about earlier 19:35:33 clarkb: tc meeting is when the governance change to add that backup puppet module repo gets approved 19:35:38 clarkb: we need to get an approval for pgsql_backup puppet repo from tc 19:35:40 oh I see 19:35:50 clarkb: at which point we can approve the project-config change to add it 19:35:53 because it is running on pgsql, not mysql 19:36:12 maybe we should just stackforge our puppet modules 19:36:25 a smartcn issue a small bug in the puppet that affects a restarted instance I guess, I'm working on that but it is not an upfront bug 19:36:27 or maybe we should fix the tc process for this some how 19:36:43 mrmartin: thanks 19:36:48 but that's out of scope for this meeting 19:37:08 we expect some upgrades in the near future for askbot, so puppetizing of the ask-staging.o.o will be the next task 19:37:17 but anyway, i think that's it. we're basically wrapped up. eventually i'll go ahead and delete the old server once we're sure it's got nothing on it we still need 19:37:31 and some discussion happens about release process of theme and askbot. 19:37:35 yay! 19:37:55 awesome, nice work everyone 19:37:59 thnx 19:38:12 #topic Priority Efforts (Upgrading Gerrit) 19:38:21 #note Gerrit 2.9 upgrade Saturday May 9, 2015 19:38:30 good reminder 19:38:45 probably nothing new to discuss for this other than what we covered in the action items? 19:39:06 testing possibility to go directly to 2.10 underway 19:39:08 maybe note that we might upgrade to 2.10 19:39:16 ahh, yep 19:39:34 #note might be an upgrade to 2.10 depending on the results of testing between now and then 19:39:49 #topic Priority Efforts (Docs publishing) 19:40:11 still in a holding pattern while the logs on swift comes to full production i expect? 19:40:25 I think so, particularly that bug with non log data 19:40:32 but once that is sorted we should be ready to start work on this 19:41:09 #topic Puppet Testing 19:41:16 something about rspec and... 19:41:22 #link https://review.openstack.org/164908 19:41:38 nibalizer: jesusaurus: looks like you reviewed that 19:41:42 I think we covered this pretty well last meeting 19:41:55 okay, so stale topic. i'll clear it off the agenda after the meeting 19:41:58 and asselin_ has made some initial progress on the outcome of that discussion. Basically do functional testing per module 19:42:27 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169117/ 19:43:32 #topic Zuul layout split (tristanc) 19:43:35 #link https://review.openstack.org/152290 19:43:37 #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/zuul_split.html 19:44:07 looks like we discussed this last meeting too. any updates or should i clear it from the agenda? 19:44:20 seems to need reviews at the moment 19:44:33 I think jhesketh recently pushed an set of updates to the connections changes that jeblair wants to get in first 19:44:43 so probably just need to review those and get them in so this effort can proceed 19:44:57 okay, good to know. have a link to those? 19:45:24 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/zuul+branch:master+topic:connections,n,z 19:45:40 thanks! 19:45:41 #topic Upcoming Project Renames 19:45:51 looks like we have a handful requested 19:46:10 murano projects are wanting to move into the openstack namespace since we had to skip them last maintenance 19:46:19 #link https://review.openstack.org/167934 19:46:25 did they correct the confusion we ran into? 19:46:41 yeah, the change has been updated, but needs more eyeballs 19:47:10 congress projects similarly, since they got approved in last week's tc meeting 19:47:10 #link https://review.openstack.org/169530 19:47:44 also stackforge/tuskar-ui-extras wants to be retired to stackforge-attic 19:47:49 #link https://review.openstack.org/169715 19:48:15 do we want to pick a date/time to do these and also try the utf-8 conversion for review.openstack.org again? 19:48:31 probably not this weekend what with so many at pycon all week 19:49:12 i'm tempted to defer it a week and revisit in next week's meeting, but input from the group would be useful there 19:49:40 yeah - let's defer 19:49:51 +1 19:49:55 also - since this is being slightly more frequent what with big tent ... 19:50:14 what do people think about making an ansible playbook we can reuse with a list of from-to names? 19:50:21 that does all the things in order 19:50:43 as in - if I write one, would people be opposed to it? 19:50:44 mordred: it should work for everything but github 19:50:44 sounds awesome. i have a script i use right now to generate all the sql queries and filesystem changes 19:50:52 clarkb: no reason it wouldnt' work for github too ... 19:50:55 that sounds like it would make the task really boring 19:51:00 I’m in favor of tasks that are really boring 19:51:01 mordred: yes big reason, githubs api is terrible and never works right 19:51:03 tchaypo: ++ 19:51:07 clarkb: fair 19:51:08 tchaypo: trust me, it's already crazy boring 19:51:08 mordred: it breaks at a really high rate 19:51:27 boring+automated then 19:51:35 * mordred wants more boring things 19:51:46 more lazy is more win 19:51:49 boring tasks where I can sip coffee and watch a progress bar instead of trying to stay awake long enough to type out the whole command 19:52:05 okay, so motion carries. we'll revisit next tuesday 19:52:06 mordred: as long as we can do it safely with github its fine, like maybe we do github move first and only move the rest of github succeeds or something 19:52:12 do we want to schedule gerrit db migration with this? 19:52:30 zaro: preferably do them in the same outage, yes 19:52:53 clarkb: I'll see what I can come up with 19:52:56 ok. might want to expand the outage window then. 19:53:00 and perhaps also enact jeblair's change to log ssh usernames in the task list 19:53:09 also we could possibly reduce the need for renames 19:53:10 yeah, we'd do a longer window if so 19:53:17 because in many cases renames are completely preventable 19:54:20 s/preventable/avoidable/ ? 19:54:34 clarkb: as in projects created in the wrong namespace to start with or all these silly -attic moves? 19:54:44 fungi: both and trademark issues 19:55:01 if we could start over, i'd do it with no git namespaces 19:55:10 but getting there now would be painful 19:55:46 anyway, we have a few minutes for open discussion, which this is sort of turning into anyway, so... 19:55:49 #topic Open discussion 19:56:00 jenkins ssh-slaves plugin is broken 19:56:17 we don't use that do we? 19:56:21 I haven't had time yet to put on my java hat (also motivation is hard to find) to work on fixing it 19:56:22 I'm conference+travel again Mon-Thursday of next week, speaking at POSSCON in South Carolina about how we do this open source, cross-company systems administration thing: http://posscon.org/talks/open-source-systems-administration/ 19:56:47 I should be checking in though 19:56:49 pleia2: ooh, where in sc? i might have suggestions for beer 19:56:55 fungi: columbia 19:56:58 so if anyone does want to wear a java hat I can point them to the bug which has the info that I have been able to collect and for everyone else keep an eye out for sluggish jenkins masters 19:57:19 hrm, other than some poorly-air-conditioned night clubs, my familiarity with columbia is minimal 19:57:39 fungi / clarkb if someone can get the CORS bits sorted out for the limitted status url in zuul, and put jquery visibility on the gerrit machine, the fixes for zuul status inline are here - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170935/ 19:57:40 i think there's a halfway decent brewery i've had stuff from there though 19:57:42 that seems to be the consensus re: columbia ;) 19:58:01 but the rest of the infrastructure to make it work are out of my scope for the near future 19:59:41 would like anybody with mysql gumption to review my gerrit db migration script. https://github.com/zaro0508/gerrit-db-migration 19:59:41 pleia2: hrm, yeah no luck jogging my memory on the brewery with web searches, though they seem to have a smattering of brewpubs since the last time i was there 20:00:00 okay, we're at time 20:00:04 thanks all! 20:00:05 thanks fungi 20:00:09 #endmeeting