13:00:57 #startmeeting hyper-v 13:00:58 Meeting started Wed Jun 8 13:00:57 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is claudiub. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:00:59 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 13:01:01 The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' 13:01:17 sorry for the delayed start, time flies. :) 13:01:20 hellou :) 13:01:24 o/ 13:01:26 Hi 13:01:26 hi 13:01:32 hi 13:01:44 Hi 13:02:14 hello all 13:02:36 so, this meeting will probably be shorter. The activity log is shorter this time around, we had to attend the OpenStack CEE Day in Budapest. 13:02:48 and that consumed a few days. :) 13:02:55 #topic monasca patches 13:03:20 no new patch was sent. primarely replying to comments. no patch merged yet. bp still approved. 13:03:33 received a bunch of comments last night, didn't get to reply to all of them. 13:03:34 ok 13:03:43 all 14 patches reviewed ? 13:03:55 yep 13:03:59 nice 13:04:15 I'll have to adjust the code a little bit, basically. 13:04:25 anyways. next topic. 13:04:33 hi all, sorry for being late :) 13:04:43 #topic networking-hyperv bugs 13:04:49 hi domi007. :) 13:05:26 so this should be ready to merge: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322068/ 13:05:34 so, atuvenie, lpetrut, pls review. 13:05:44 even the ci passed. 13:06:03 Yes we can merge this 13:06:06 thanks for the contribution. :) 13:06:31 wanted to know thoughts on this 13:06:31 yep, +2'd 13:06:33 https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-hyperv/+bug/1586354 13:06:33 Launchpad bug 1586354 in networking-hyperv "Intermittent Issue seen --Associating a vm from one security group (having tcp rule) to another security group(not having tcp rule) does not stop ssh from happening" [Undecided,New] 13:06:59 thanks for +2 13:07:00 kvinod: hm, seems I've missed this. 13:07:40 We donot have much in out hand to fix it 13:08:03 kvinod: oh, so basically, you're changing a neutron port's security group, am I right? 13:08:07 it seems to be windows underlay issue 13:08:13 yes 13:08:16 right 13:08:43 kvinod: hm, interesting. haven't tried something like this before. I am curios about it. 13:08:50 any help on this will be good 13:08:54 kvinod: do you have any logs laying around? 13:08:55 ok 13:09:25 I have posted a query on http://ask.cloudbase.it/question/1233/hyperv-security-groups-update-does-not-work-correctly/ 13:09:54 I will ask my team if they have it 13:10:06 Will share it in case available 13:10:12 it feels like the bug reporter's default hyperv firewall setting is off for some reason, so the machine gets all the traffic 13:11:00 domi007: are you talking about https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-hyperv/+bug/1586354 13:11:00 Launchpad bug 1586354 in networking-hyperv "Intermittent Issue seen --Associating a vm from one security group (having tcp rule) to another security group(not having tcp rule) does not stop ssh from happening" [Undecided,New] 13:11:03 kvinod: sure, thanks. will try it as well. 13:11:33 domi007: yeah, I was thinking the same, but it does say in the bug report that it's intermittent. 13:11:39 ok fine, if you get to know something please do share 13:11:50 will do 13:12:11 thanks claudiub 13:12:26 There is one more bug 13:12:29 as for this one, I wasn't able to reproduce it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-hyperv/+bug/1583541 13:12:30 Launchpad bug 1583541 in networking-hyperv "Hyper-V neutron agent hangs on nova boot (with enable_security_group=true)" [Undecided,New] 13:12:31 hello folks 13:12:40 s://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-hyperv/+bug/1583541 13:13:01 hi alexpilotti: 13:13:03 https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-hyperv/+bug/1583541 13:13:29 this was found as part of our scale test with SG enabled 13:13:49 kvinod: yep. I followed the steps described in the bug report, but it didn't happen 13:14:20 kvinod: does it happen everytime you start it? 13:14:34 Monkey patching all modules fixes the issue 13:14:37 could you guys also include what release you are running? there qas quite an overhaul of the firewall part between liberty and mitaka 13:14:48 yes that was seen everytime when we run scale 13:14:53 I've tried it on newton. bug report says it's reproducable on newton as well. 13:15:12 domi007: we are on liberty 13:15:25 I saw that happening/reproduced on devstack also 13:15:31 but that was only once 13:15:40 mostly in scale it happens always 13:15:57 my devstack was on mitaka 13:16:20 claudiub: I read the bugreport but found no mention of newton :) but it's your table, so nevermind 13:16:21 alexpilotti: claudiub: we are running scale tests often now and finding some issues, one of them is what is getting discussed now 13:16:54 domi007: there's a comment saying: "Should be reproducible on Hyper-V latest also." 13:17:25 oh sorry, I had still the previous bug opened :) 13:18:58 claudiub : I saw that on devstak mitaka once of which I uploaded the traces and logs. There was not much difference in mitaka and master, so I said should be reproducible on master also 13:19:12 sagar_nikam: I mean, if we trt to repro it, does it happen everytime? 13:19:20 kvinod: well, monkey patching works because then the agent will only work with greenthreads and there's no locking there. but using greenthreads instead of native threads will impact the performance negatively. 13:19:59 alexpilotti: as mentioned by kvinod: it is intermittent 13:20:03 kvinod: so, if there's a deadlock somewhere, the best solution is to find it and solve it. 13:20:44 alexpilotti: there are two different issue 13:20:47 https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-hyperv/+bug/1586354 13:20:47 Launchpad bug 1586354 in networking-hyperv "Intermittent Issue seen --Associating a vm from one security group (having tcp rule) to another security group(not having tcp rule) does not stop ssh from happening" [Undecided,New] 13:20:49 and 13:21:06 https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-hyperv/+bug/1586354 13:22:03 sorry https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-hyperv/+bug/1583541 13:22:03 Launchpad bug 1583541 in networking-hyperv "Hyper-V neutron agent hangs on nova boot (with enable_security_group=true)" [Undecided,New] 13:22:22 so monkey patching is for https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-hyperv/+bug/1583541 13:23:30 and intermittent seen issue is https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-hyperv/+bug/1586354 13:23:30 Launchpad bug 1586354 in networking-hyperv "Intermittent Issue seen --Associating a vm from one security group (having tcp rule) to another security group(not having tcp rule) does not stop ssh from happening" [Undecided,New] 13:24:16 kvinod: we need clear steps that we can run to reproduce 13:25:00 for which one, I think for both bugs we have captured the steps 13:25:05 otherwise if they dont show up during our scale tests (Rally) it becomes impossible to isolate them 13:25:28 unlike you guys can give us access to your env 13:25:31 in case you need more info I will be happy to share it 13:26:40 kvinod: at the very least, can you share the rally scenario you're using? 13:27:16 our environment is not rally based 13:27:33 how are you doing scale tests? 13:27:48 we have some shell scripts which does the operation 13:27:59 in a scale environment 13:28:23 hm, you should really give rally a shot. it's actually very nice. 13:28:38 at the very least, the output is very useful. 13:29:07 sure lets see when we plans for this 13:29:26 i mean rally 13:30:04 anyways. I'll try to reproduce it on mitaka as well, but I'm a bit skeptic that I can encounter the issue by following the described steps. 13:30:20 I would say on your setup you can give a try by applying this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321452/ 13:30:39 alexpilotti: claudiub: we will speak to scale team and check the feasibility of using rally. for now if we let you know the steps to reproduce, is it sufficient ? 13:31:30 sagar_nikam: steps are already there for https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-hyperv/+bug/1583541 13:31:31 Launchpad bug 1583541 in networking-hyperv "Hyper-V neutron agent hangs on nova boot (with enable_security_group=true)" [Undecided,New] 13:31:48 kvinod: thanks 13:32:14 probably if more info required for bug 1586354 13:32:14 bug 1586354 in networking-hyperv "Intermittent Issue seen --Associating a vm from one security group (having tcp rule) to another security group(not having tcp rule) does not stop ssh from happening" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1586354 13:32:21 we can share it 13:32:45 kvinod: yeah, that will cause the threading module to be monkey patched. If that happens, you can't have native threads. :) which means poorer performance. 13:33:10 ok 13:33:24 anyways. a pip freeze and the neutron-hyperv-agent logs might be useful. 13:33:45 with monkeypatch, enhanced RPC and pyMi together 13:33:50 and the neutron-hyperv-agent's conf file. 13:34:28 we were easily able to boot 1000VMs in 22 node compute environment with Network node HA 13:35:12 kvinod: I have a curiosity, how do you make sure that the VM is created with error state? 13:37:09 abalutoiu: when I recreated the issue on devstak i stopped neutron agent such that VM goes into error state 13:37:10 claudiub: i also have a scale issue to discuss, once we are done with this 13:37:20 and booted the VM 13:38:11 on devstack even though I hit the issue once I was not able to recreate again 13:38:20 but in scale its very easy to recreate 13:39:01 can you share with us more details about what your scale tests are doing? 13:39:14 you just have to ensure that a compute that does not has any VM booted receives provider rule update 13:40:36 abalutoiu: I will share the details 13:41:01 on what we are doing as part of scale test 13:42:11 kvinod: thanks 13:42:44 ok, so, we're waiting for more details on this. 13:42:53 #topic nova resource tracking 13:43:03 sagar_nikam: I think this is what you wanted, right? 13:43:12 claudiub: yes 13:43:21 we are hitting a issue in scale tests 13:43:36 i sent you the screen shot as well as logs 13:43:38 ok, so. let me explain a little bit how resource tracking works on nova. :) 13:43:56 on the hyperv host, we have only 1.5 GB RAM 13:43:59 free 13:44:34 so, the drivers do report their actual memory, disk, cpu consumption, but the nova resource tracker only logs those values and reports to the scheduler only the 'ideal' values. 13:44:34 whereas i see that nova-compute sends it as some 9gb free 13:45:31 now what is happening is, scheduler thinks there is more memory and schedules a instance t it 13:45:35 nova start fails 13:45:42 since no memory available 13:45:56 basically, the resource tracker will iterate over all the instances on that host, and calculates the memory consumption / disk usage that host should have. 13:46:19 you mean this is a issue with resource tracker ? 13:46:31 we are not finding this issue on KVM 13:46:42 nova doesn't really call it an "issue". 13:47:04 but then ... nova boot fails 13:47:10 i know. 13:47:17 since the host does not have the memory 13:47:46 so, the resource tracker doesn't take into account the host memory or disk necesities. 13:47:46 does this mean this is the same behavior for KVM and VMWare as well ? 13:47:55 but you do have some config options to help on this 13:48:11 dynamic_memory ? 13:48:15 or something else 13:48:32 what are those config options ? 13:49:43 sagar_nikam: I don't really remember the names, and they've been moved from where they were. 13:49:57 ok 13:50:03 we will try to check it 13:50:15 sagar_nikam: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/mitaka/nova/compute/resource_tracker.py#L45 13:50:23 in case anybody from your team finds it, please do let us know 13:50:33 reserved_host_disk_mb and reserved_host_memory_mb 13:51:07 ok, i think we have set these values on the host 13:51:14 but i will confirm with scale team again 13:51:21 basically, those are the values the resource tracker considers as "reserved for the host" 13:51:28 ok 13:52:01 so, a host does have its memory and disk usages as well. 13:52:02 we will try and see how it works 13:52:08 thanks for the info 13:52:12 np. 13:52:24 one more topic from me 13:52:41 http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/newton/approved/convert-consoles-to-objects.html 13:52:44 you can also see in the nova-compute logs the "Hypervisor resource view" and the "Final resource tracker view", or something like that. 13:53:01 we saw the final resource view 13:53:02 #topic open discussion 13:53:11 and that is what is reportin 9gb free 13:53:16 sagar_nikam: yep. 13:53:19 ok 13:53:21 now 13:53:26 have you seen this BP 13:53:27 http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/newton/approved/convert-consoles-to-objects.html 13:53:46 it is worked on by team mate paul murray 13:53:55 i am not very familiar with it. 13:53:55 claudiub: any update on windows ovs logo certification 13:54:03 I just wanted to say it was great seeing some of you in Budapest. atuvenie please let me know if you have the installer for liberty with ovs WMI security groups. Also please let us know if FreeRDP is updated :) 13:54:06 this may impact nova consoles for hyperv using freerdp 13:54:23 domi007: yes we have a new version 13:54:37 domi007: sure domi, I'll leave you all the details on skype 13:54:38 https://cloudbase.it/downloads/FreeRDPWebConnect_Beta.msi 13:54:44 claudiub: c64cosmin: please check if that BP affects freerdp 13:54:44 https://cloudbase.it/downloads/FreeRDPWebConnect_Beta.zip 13:54:53 cool :) thank you for both of you! 13:55:06 it's x64 now 13:55:16 c64cosmin: can this be available in stable release as well 13:55:30 our QA picks up from stable release 13:55:51 sagar_nikam: I will read the spec, but from what I can briefly read, it shouldn't. It will just standardize / object-ify some items related to remote consoles. 13:55:52 sagar_nikam: not yet 13:56:01 sagar_nikam: it shouldn't change the behaviour. 13:56:10 but, I'll read it in more detail. 13:56:20 claudiub: i think UUID needs to be passed in the URL 13:56:32 atleast that change is required 13:56:44 may be you can chat with paul murray ? 13:56:50 he can provide more info 13:57:05 c64cosmin: when is it planned for stable ? 13:57:15 also keystrokes issue fixed ? 13:57:32 what we discussed in last IRC meeting 13:57:51 sagar_nikam: inside Horizon right? 13:57:57 yes 13:58:09 does not work ... i have hit it many times 13:58:14 sagar_nikam: I have not encountered those 13:58:29 domi007: yeah, thanks for saying hello in Budapest. :) I don't think we met there though. 13:58:29 claudiub: any update on windows logo certification for ovs. When is it planned. 13:58:43 c64cosmin: we hit it many times 13:58:52 sagar_nikam: but to be sure I will make such that when entering the console, the key state is reset 13:59:03 maybe there is some RDP command to that one 13:59:05 not sure 13:59:10 kvinod: It's still underway. I guess it takes a while. :( 13:59:15 maybe i will pick the latest MSI whenever it is available in stable and test and check it 13:59:23 usually happens when a key press is sent but not the key release 13:59:27 sagar_nikam: sure, I'll ask him. He's a nice guy. :) 13:59:32 claudiub: ok thanks 13:59:45 claudiub: thanks 14:00:04 c64cosmin: next debian is planned or it requires some more time ? 14:00:36 sagar_nikam: I will have an incoming PR, and will leave after that passes and is merged 14:00:43 I still need to do some tests 14:00:48 I think we'll have to end it here. Other people will get upset otherwise. :) We can continue for a bit on #openstack-hyper-v if needed. 14:00:53 also make sure it works well with mitaka 14:01:03 sure, lets continue there 14:01:06 i will join 14:01:07 so, thanks folks for joining!. :) 14:01:10 #endmeeting