15:59:42 <primeministerp> #startmeeting hyper-v
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15:59:52 <primeministerp> hi everyone
16:00:11 <primeministerp> there's a bunch of things to discuss today
16:00:15 <EmilienM> o/
16:00:22 <primeministerp> EmilienM: yes?
16:00:28 <primeministerp> EmilienM: something to add?
16:00:32 <EmilienM> nothing, good morning :)
16:00:38 <primeministerp> o hi
16:00:39 <primeministerp> ;)
16:01:11 <primeministerp> ok
16:01:14 <primeministerp> let's begin
16:01:23 <primeministerp> #topic Current issues
16:01:43 <primeministerp> so people have experiencing problems with cloudinit on linux
16:01:58 <primeministerp> I was hoping the folks from ibm could share
16:02:06 <primeministerp> pnavarro: pedro
16:02:18 <pnavarro> hi all !
16:02:22 <primeministerp> hi pedro
16:02:58 <primeministerp> josecastroleon: hi jose
16:03:12 <josecastroleon> primeministerp: hi
16:03:21 <pnavarro> hola josecastroleon
16:03:37 <josecastroleon> pnavarro: hola :)
16:03:45 <alexpilotti> hi everybody!
16:03:50 <primeministerp> josecastroleon: we were just about talk about the magic ip/cloudinit issues
16:03:53 <ociuhandu> hi all
16:03:58 <josecastroleon> cool
16:04:00 <primeministerp> I was hoping to have the others from ibm
16:04:05 <primeministerp> on the channel
16:04:40 <primeministerp> josecastroleon: I know you were thinking about using a vswitch plugin to deal with the problem
16:04:57 <alexpilotti> josecastroleon: you giuy are curently running cloud-init on Linux instances on Hyper-V?
16:05:08 <josecastroleon> primeministerp: I think it's less intrusive
16:05:19 <josecastroleon> alexpilotti: not on hyperv
16:05:36 <alexpilotti> josecastroleon: did u try on hyper-v?
16:05:36 <primeministerp> they are running only windows on hyperv
16:05:41 <josecastroleon> alexpilotti: I didn't have time to build the sample
16:05:48 <alexpilotti> josecastroleon: ok tx
16:06:01 <josecastroleon> but it should be the same
16:06:29 <alexpilotti> IMO we can already starting supporting it, I don't see many issues there.
16:06:37 <alexpilotti> ociuhandu is testing it
16:06:43 <josecastroleon> cool
16:07:06 <josecastroleon> i was checking the code in cloud-init, and i didn't find any hardware specific part
16:07:14 <alexpilotti> the magic IP is now a Quantum L3 thing
16:07:23 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: do you mind laying out the key issues
16:07:33 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: you've been working w/ the ibm folks on
16:08:04 <alexpilotti> primeministerp: the IBM folks are going to test it tomorrow, today they just asked about the status
16:08:53 <alexpilotti> primeministerp: for now we'll just go with the ugly route, as we have no nova-network and no quantum… for the next 2 weeks :-)
16:08:56 <primeministerp> ok
16:09:30 <alexpilotti> my proposal is to go with the KVP extensions we talked about in SD and in josecastroleon's email
16:10:07 <alexpilotti> we can just read the metadata host / port and inject it into the guest
16:11:00 <primeministerp> ok
16:11:03 <alexpilotti> has anybody other ideas on the subject?
16:11:20 <primeministerp> josecastroleon: anything to add?
16:11:57 <pnavarro> alexpilotti: another idea would be to use configdriveV2
16:11:58 <josecastroleon> it's not difficult to include it on cloud-init
16:12:19 <josecastroleon> but there is no HW specific stuff on it
16:12:36 <pnavarro> alexpilotti: but I've never used it
16:12:49 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: sounds good
16:12:58 <primeministerp> ultimately we probably should support config drive correct?
16:13:35 <primeministerp> ok
16:13:40 <primeministerp> are we all good on the status
16:13:45 <primeministerp> of the cloudinit bits
16:13:50 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: I'm going to look at it
16:14:02 <primeministerp> should we talk more on the implementation of the windows side while on the topic?
16:15:19 <primeministerp> i'll take that as a no...
16:15:22 <primeministerp> ;)
16:15:44 <primeministerp> ok
16:15:44 <alexpilotti> I'd check the config drive 2 and see how OS independent it is etc
16:15:51 <primeministerp> #topic cinder
16:16:08 <primeministerp> pnavarro: have you commited the new wmi based cinder work?
16:16:22 <primeministerp> pnavarro: if not when can we expect to see it get commited?
16:17:37 <primeministerp> pnavarro: ping
16:17:41 <pnavarro> primeministerp: well, the code is committed in my repository, let me some days to test it with grizzly
16:17:51 <primeministerp> pnavarro: ok
16:18:11 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: great, can't wait
16:18:37 <primeministerp> pnavarro: I'd love to see it in for the g1 timeframe
16:18:53 <primeministerp> pnavarro: hopefully we can have that and the  inital quantum bits in time
16:18:53 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: what do we do with teh old one? We just deprecate it?
16:19:08 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: g-1 is in 2 weeks! :-)
16:19:58 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: the fix for teh current Cinder client just went through: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/15337/
16:20:00 <pnavarro> alexpilotti: yes, the evenlet issues makes us to have no choice but to deprecate it
16:20:33 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: yeah, as soon as we can commit it we can even remove the fix
16:20:56 <pnavarro> alexpilotti: I got it
16:21:07 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: problem is that we'll need that fix anytime we will need to use subprocess.Popen
16:21:12 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: with pipes
16:21:26 <pnavarro> alexpilotti: We hope to not use it anymore
16:21:54 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: in all the openstack projects? hmmm
16:22:05 <primeministerp> interesting
16:22:12 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: I started a bug in eventlet
16:22:27 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: good
16:22:55 <primeministerp> should we discuss the quantum doc alessandro sent around?
16:23:10 <primeministerp> #topic quantum
16:23:34 <primeministerp> alessandro circulated a document w/ outlining ideas on quantum
16:23:40 <alexpilotti> https://bitbucket.org/which_linden/eventlet/issue/132/eventletmonkey_patch-breaks
16:24:03 <primeministerp> #link https://bitbucket.org/which_linden/eventlet/issue/132/eventletmonkey_patch-breaks
16:24:29 <primeministerp> pnavarro: thoughts on quantum?
16:24:39 <alexpilotti> there's more to add on the implementation side
16:24:51 <alexpilotti> beside the high level ideas in the doc
16:25:34 <pnavarro> primeministerp: well... in general I agree Dan that the we should have an incremental approach
16:25:55 <primeministerp> pnavarro: i agree as well
16:27:12 <pnavarro> it's a good document to start talking but we should plan a meeting to talk about implementation details
16:27:49 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: when do you want to meet? I plan to release the first version in max 2 weeks
16:28:15 <pnavarro> thursday it's ok for me
16:28:23 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: with an ambitious idea to make it for g-1 :-)
16:28:32 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: great! time?
16:29:01 <primeministerp> pnavarro: send a meeting request if possible
16:29:07 <pnavarro> late at night
16:29:24 <pnavarro> when my children are sleeping
16:29:33 <pnavarro> I'll send a meeting request
16:29:33 <alexpilotti> is there anybody elese that would like to join me and pnavarro?
16:29:37 <pnavarro> ok
16:29:45 <primeministerp> #topic general discussion
16:29:52 <primeministerp> anyone have anything else to add
16:29:58 <pnavarro> guys, I have to leave
16:30:03 <primeministerp> josecastroleon: how are things at cern these days
16:30:07 <alexpilotti> if not pnavarro just call me on Skype whenever you wish and we set it up :-)
16:30:07 <primeministerp> pnavarro: thx pedro
16:30:09 <josecastroleon> see you
16:30:17 <pnavarro> ciao
16:30:30 <alexpilotti> bye!
16:30:35 <EmilienM> bye pedro
16:30:39 <luis_fdez> primeministerp: I´ve a small patch to fix the disk stats
16:30:49 <primeministerp> luis_fdez: great
16:30:50 <pnavarro> just a quick note, yesterday I presented Hyper-V in the meetup Paris
16:30:58 <primeministerp> pnavarro: o awesome!
16:31:18 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: did they like it? :-)
16:31:35 <EmilienM> we actually did :)
16:31:42 <alexpilotti> lol
16:32:02 <pnavarro> yeah, there were even some people interesed as an alternative to MS private cloud
16:32:06 <alexpilotti> luis_fdez: can you past the fix?
16:32:07 <EmilienM> people was quite curious
16:32:14 <primeministerp> great
16:32:25 <luis_fdez> yes alexpilotti, i´ll send you the patch file and take a look
16:32:29 <alexpilotti> pnavarro EmilienM: how many people showed up?
16:32:42 <primeministerp> EmilienM: were there slides?
16:32:48 <pnavarro> sorry, I'll lose my bus if i'm not leaving now
16:32:51 <alexpilotti> luis_fdez: consider also that there's a fix for the stats
16:32:56 <EmilienM> alexpilotti: about 25 people was here.
16:32:57 <primeministerp> pnavarro: go
16:33:04 <primeministerp> EmilienM: that's good
16:33:17 <alexpilotti> guys I have also a meeting right now
16:33:33 <primeministerp> ok gues
16:33:35 <primeministerp> er guys
16:33:38 <primeministerp> ending the meeting then
16:33:42 <primeministerp> #endmeeting