15:00:01 <primeministerp> #startmeeting Hyper-V
15:00:01 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Sep 11 15:00:01 2012 UTC.  The chair is primeministerp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:00:09 <primeministerp> Hi everyone
15:00:31 <primeministerp> Welcome to today's OpenStack/Hyper-V discussion
15:00:47 <primeministerp> #topic Conf Attendance
15:01:15 <primeministerp> Myself, Alessandro and Pedro will all be there
15:01:53 <primeministerp> We're still awaiting confirmation for our topic acceptance
15:02:32 <primeministerp> #topic CI Infrastructure Update
15:02:41 <primeministerp> luis_fdez: will you be attending the conference?
15:03:22 <primeministerp> Ci update, after the last hardware failure i'm pushing to get a new infrastructure specifically for the Hyper-V ci
15:03:54 <primeministerp> Hopefully i'll be able to get the budget to replace the tired equipment i've been using to this point
15:04:06 <luis_fdez> primeministerp: no, i wont be in san diego
15:04:29 <primeministerp> luis_fdez: too bad, pedro, alesssandro and I will be there
15:04:41 <pnavarro> maybe we can organize a meetup in Europe to synchro the topics
15:05:13 <pnavarro> I mean, to make some kind of summe up
15:05:17 <luis_fdez> jose will be there, he knows well the work done :)
15:05:24 <primeministerp> luis_fdez: perfect
15:05:34 <primeministerp> luis_fdez: is jan coming as well?
15:05:49 <luis_fdez> ummm... i'm not sure...
15:06:04 <primeministerp> #topic Cinder Status
15:06:12 <primeministerp> pnavarro: updates?
15:06:57 <pnavarro> primeministerp: I have some issues with WMI methods...
15:07:03 <pnavarro> I had...
15:07:17 <primeministerp> pnavarro: anything i can do ?
15:07:27 <pnavarro> because alexpilotti helped me 1 hour ago
15:07:28 <primeministerp> pnavarro: i.e. in terms of leveraging resources w/in
15:07:34 <primeministerp> pnavarro: ahh great
15:07:35 <pnavarro> and it's fixed then
15:07:49 <pnavarro> so, I'm finishing the unit tests...
15:08:03 <primeministerp> o great
15:08:12 <pnavarro> not so much time to work last week... you know children started the school..
15:08:18 <primeministerp> pnavarro:  o yes
15:08:20 <primeministerp> I do
15:08:43 <primeministerp> pnavarro: have you been in contact w/ the cinder folks
15:08:49 <primeministerp> pnavarro: re commiting
15:08:59 <pnavarro> not yet
15:09:20 <primeministerp> i'm wondering if they've released yet
15:09:25 <primeministerp> pnavarro: might be too late
15:09:34 <primeministerp> pnavarro: but get it in when you can
15:09:59 <primeministerp> pnavarro: once the unit tests are done is there anything else?
15:10:45 <pnavarro> well... some integration tests.. with Hyper-V
15:11:07 <primeministerp> pnavarro: hopefully i'll be back to 100% soon to help
15:11:23 <primeministerp> #topic Documenation for Hyper-v
15:11:59 <primeministerp> So i've also almost completed the docs and will will probably start the submission process/cleanup tomorrow
15:12:14 <annegentle> primeministerp: great, will be on the lookout
15:12:15 <primeministerp> I'd like to have some people review
15:12:26 <primeministerp> annegentle: i might have you review early if that's ok
15:12:31 <primeministerp> before i submt
15:12:35 <primeministerp> while i'm cleaning
15:12:40 <primeministerp> annegentle: do you have time today?
15:12:50 <annegentle> primeministerp: you can do "git review -D" if you want to set it to Work In Progress and assign reviewers
15:12:51 <primeministerp> annegentle: i.e. few minutes to poke
15:12:58 <annegentle> primeministerp: yep, I do
15:13:13 <primeministerp> annegentle: then i'll ping and share w/ you after this meeting if that's ok
15:13:39 <primeministerp> #topic General discussion
15:13:47 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: ping anything to add?
15:14:26 <primeministerp> I know alessandro's patch recently went through
15:14:31 <primeministerp> for a minor fix
15:14:42 <alexpilotti> primeministerp: yap, minor fix asked by vish
15:15:09 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: other than that prep for the conference coming along?
15:15:14 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: booth secured...
15:15:27 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: materials printing?
15:16:21 <primeministerp> ok
15:16:27 <pnavarro> primeministerp: you are the only MS representation?
15:16:33 <primeministerp> pnavarro: no
15:16:58 <alexpilotti> primeministerp: we are preparing today the things to print and distribute in the attendees bag
15:16:58 <primeministerp> pnavarro: there will be a bunch I'm sure
15:17:04 <primeministerp> pnavarro: I know of 3 right now
15:17:08 <alexpilotti> 1100 copies :-)
15:17:13 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: great
15:17:32 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: did you get an answer from my side regarding the questions you asked
15:17:42 <primeministerp> pnavarro: I expect more
15:17:47 <alexpilotti> primeministerp: I'm going to send u the PDF before printing if you're online
15:17:49 <primeministerp> pnavarro: it's close by the mothership
15:17:57 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: perfect
15:18:02 <pnavarro> ok !
15:18:16 <alexpilotti> primeministerp: what question?
15:18:23 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: logos
15:18:29 <alexpilotti> primeministerp: nada
15:18:33 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: ok
15:18:38 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: i'll poke
15:18:45 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: i thought i heard something
15:18:59 <primeministerp> luis_fdez: any updates from CERN?
15:19:10 <alexpilotti> changing subject: folsom changed a bit, it'd be great if anybody could help in testing
15:19:18 <primeministerp> luis_fdez: your moving everything to hyper-v? ;)
15:19:37 <primeministerp> yes any additional testing efforts are greatly welcome
15:19:53 <primeministerp> actually I'd like to than EmilienM for offering to help as well
15:20:04 <luis_fdez> hehe... no updates by th emoment :)
15:20:05 <primeministerp> EmilienM: do you have a launchpad id?
15:20:14 <EmilienM> of course
15:20:23 <EmilienM> https://launchpad.net/~emilienm
15:20:24 <primeministerp> ok I'll add you and luis_fdez to the hyper-v team
15:20:48 <EmilienM> thx :)
15:20:51 <primeministerp> luis_fdez: let us know when you are ready to start
15:21:16 <pnavarro> EmilienM will be in Paris in several weeks, I'll try to give him homework... hehe
15:21:26 <primeministerp> pnavarro: perfect
15:21:31 <EmilienM> ahah, great
15:21:33 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: that's great news
15:21:53 <alexpilotti> we need kamikaze, ehm, testers :-)
15:21:59 <primeministerp> hahaha
15:22:06 <primeministerp> o
15:22:11 <primeministerp> one more thing
15:22:19 <primeministerp> #topic Blueprints for Grizzly
15:22:30 <primeministerp> So, on the table nwo
15:22:31 <primeministerp> er now
15:22:40 <primeministerp> of key area's that need to be addressed
15:22:50 <primeministerp> are Quantum for Hyper-v
15:23:01 <primeministerp> and RDP console access
15:23:16 <primeministerp> those are two key areas that we should be focusing on
15:23:26 <pnavarro> any specs about what we'd like to do with Quantum?
15:23:42 <primeministerp> pnavarro: let's think about it and come w/ ideas to the conference
15:23:46 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: the basic quantum plugin to start with
15:24:21 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: but the Hyper-V extendible switch thing is calling for more!
15:24:22 <primeministerp> pnavarro: we figure do a direct map to wmi for vswich creation/manipulation
15:24:37 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: it definately is
15:24:52 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: any great ideas?
15:25:19 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: and are we going to have a full SDN solution w/o ovs?
15:25:23 <alexpilotti> primeministerp: quite a lot of ideas, but I have to think a bit how to integrate them in quantum before
15:26:05 <pnavarro> it's ok for me
15:26:06 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: well now that hyper-v supports things like lacp it's at least a better story
15:26:12 <alexpilotti> primeministerp: openvswitch integration is one of the areas that I'm investigating
15:26:28 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: I've always been interested in that
15:26:55 <alexpilotti> let's put the brains to sping with  afew beers in San Diego :-)
15:26:55 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: i guess is it more work than using the native vswich?
15:27:01 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: perfect
15:27:08 <alexpilotti> primeministerp: yeah, definitely
15:27:22 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: also hopefully we can get some cisco/nicira/quantum folks to join the discussion as well
15:27:27 <alexpilotti> primeministerp: that's why I'd start with the basic plugin, which is a limited effort
15:27:54 <alexpilotti> primeministerp: as Nicira are our booth neighbour, I guess we will squeeze them a lot :-D
15:27:55 <EmilienM> primeministerp: I can help a bit with Quantum
15:27:58 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: bascially swapping out what we have for quantum i assume w/ same functional or slightly more
15:28:12 <primeministerp> EmilienM: execelent
15:28:19 <primeministerp> EmilienM: we'll take all the help we can get
15:28:24 <EmilienM> ok
15:28:36 <primeministerp> and for RDP?
15:28:39 <alexpilotti> EmilienM: do you have already experience with quantum development / deployment?
15:28:46 <primeministerp> a nova-rdp-proxy?
15:28:56 <EmilienM> alexpilotti: deployment
15:29:09 <alexpilotti> primeministerp: RDP is the next BIG thing we are working on
15:29:22 <alexpilotti> primeministerp: it's a lot of work
15:29:28 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: i know
15:29:32 <alexpilotti> primeministerp: but we have to do that
15:29:46 <alexpilotti> primeministerp: development is going to be 90% C/C++
15:29:48 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: start thinking about blueprints
15:29:57 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: for xfreerdp?
15:30:06 <pnavarro> EmilienM will be working in an openstack company in Paris next month
15:30:15 <alexpilotti> primeministerp: yep, starting from there is the best option
15:30:29 <primeministerp> yes i've been following the development
15:30:30 <pnavarro> primeministerp: should I create a blueprint for the cinder bits?
15:30:35 <primeministerp> pnavarro: yes please
15:30:44 <alexpilotti> EmilienM: on what architectures do you deploy quantum?
15:30:48 <primeministerp> pnavarro: we should be following standard prractice
15:30:59 <primeministerp> EmilienM: Xen right
15:31:09 <EmilienM> Hypervisor : KVM
15:31:12 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: and you should commit it for review asap :-)
15:31:24 <EmilienM> Plugins : OVS and Floodlight (OpenFlow)
15:31:39 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: pnavarro commit all the bits, or just the blueprint
15:32:01 <primeministerp> floodlight?
15:32:06 <primeministerp> you have reading material?
15:32:08 <alexpilotti> pnavarro: IMO he should commit also the code for review
15:32:35 <primeministerp> pnavarro: something that you think you could do soon?
15:32:46 <EmilienM> floodlight is SDN, using OpenFlow
15:32:56 <primeministerp> EmilienM: another opensource project?
15:33:02 <alexpilotti> alexpilotti: primeministerp: IMO he should commit also the code for review
15:33:11 <alexpilotti> lol, I inverted the names
15:33:19 <primeministerp> i say
15:33:19 <EmilienM> primeministerp: yes, an open-source project
15:33:21 <primeministerp> er saw
15:33:30 <primeministerp> EmilienM: i'll find it
15:33:45 <EmilienM> http://floodlight.openflowhub.org/
15:34:12 <EmilienM> primeministerp: will support Quantum V2
15:34:15 <pnavarro> primeministerp: yes, I could do soon, alexpilotti will help me to adapt it to all the standards
15:34:17 <alexpilotti> IMO we should start experiment Openflow integration as well
15:34:17 <primeministerp> EmilienM: interesting
15:34:28 <primeministerp> Definately
15:34:31 <EmilienM> but OVS will be the default plugin
15:34:33 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: i fully agree
15:34:50 <EmilienM> with Floodlight : no agent needed on compute node.
15:35:06 <EmilienM> only OVS running, and connected to IP network.
15:35:48 <primeministerp> EmilienM: floodplugged into ovs flows and talking directly to quantum?
15:35:58 <primeministerp> er floodlight plugged
15:36:15 <EmilienM> yep, right
15:36:15 <primeministerp> EmilienM: ^
15:36:18 <primeministerp> ok i get it
15:36:25 <primeministerp> need to start playing w/ ovs again
15:36:34 <primeministerp> EmilienM: is the floodlight stuff well baked?
15:36:45 <primeministerp> EmilienM: and i'm assuming it's a standalone controller
15:36:52 <primeministerp> EmilienM: i.e. on it's own node
15:36:57 <EmilienM> it's still under development, but they progress very fast
15:37:18 <EmilienM> own node, yes,
15:37:21 <EmilienM> can be a VM actually
15:37:31 <primeministerp> EmilienM: so much like the nicira product model
15:37:31 <luis_fdez> <primeministerp> from jose: we have something on keystone and active directory integration :)
15:37:32 <EmilienM> since you only need a connection to IP network
15:37:43 <primeministerp> luis_fdez: o awesome!
15:37:45 <primeministerp> luis_fdez: what?
15:38:14 <luis_fdez> <primeministerp> jose is playing with ldap module on ad
15:38:25 <AndrewWeiss> keystone and AD...sweetness!
15:38:28 <EmilienM> primeministerp: http://floodlight.openflowhub.org/quantum-and-openstack/
15:38:29 <primeministerp> luis_fdez: any gpo addition!!
15:38:56 <luis_fdez> primeministerp: not bigger changes at the moment
15:39:07 <alexpilotti> luis_fdez: we are very interested on that. Any success so far?
15:39:19 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: i know they had success
15:39:29 <alexpilotti> luis_fdez: AD integration is on our short therm list
15:39:31 <primeministerp> luis_fdez: what are you doing w/ it
15:39:54 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: leveraging other object attributes?
15:39:56 <luis_fdez> primeministerp: user tenant and role by now
15:40:02 <luis_fdez> keystone api is working
15:40:14 <primeministerp> luis_fdez: other than just user mapping?
15:40:24 <luis_fdez> yes
15:40:29 <primeministerp> luis_fdez: o execelet
15:40:30 <luis_fdez> tenants and roles
15:40:34 <primeministerp> luis_fdez: is adam aware?
15:40:40 <primeministerp> ayoung: ^^^
15:41:00 <luis_fdez> i think so
15:41:09 <primeministerp> luis_fdez: we'd love to implement what you've done
15:41:12 <luis_fdez> we are taking our users from active directory
15:41:21 <primeministerp> luis_fdez: and roles?
15:41:24 <luis_fdez> and only creating tenants and roles
15:41:30 <primeministerp> luis_fdez: o gotcah
15:41:38 <ayoung> primeministerp, in a meeting,  give me the short version and I'll respond shortly
15:41:48 <primeministerp> ayoung: ad integration at CERN
15:41:54 <primeministerp> ayoung: are you aware
15:41:59 <pnavarro> luis_fdez: have you tried the SAML-federated implementation of Keystone?
15:42:00 <alexpilotti> luis_fdez: the Keystone LDAP code was ennough?
15:42:13 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: it is for just user bits
15:42:14 <luis_fdez> some minor tweaks at the moment
15:42:20 <luis_fdez> atribute mapping\
15:42:41 <primeministerp> luis_fdez: we should have a seperate discussion about this
15:42:44 <luis_fdez> pnavarro: not yet
15:42:52 <primeministerp> luis_fdez: with all people who are interested
15:43:10 <primeministerp> luis_fdez: maybe get some good effort from those interested
15:43:21 <alexpilotti> luis_fdez: can you share the attribute mapping of your config?
15:43:29 <primeministerp> alexpilotti: read my mind
15:43:37 <alexpilotti> primeministerp: gotcha
15:43:43 <primeministerp> luis_fdez: wiki maybe?
15:43:54 <luis_fdez> let jose prepare it
15:43:56 <luis_fdez> :)
15:44:10 <primeministerp> luis_fdez: we'll be waiting in anticipation
15:44:15 <primeministerp> ;)
15:44:39 <primeministerp> so keep thinking about quantum, and rdp
15:44:45 <primeministerp> EmilienM: we'll be in touch re quauntum
15:44:54 <primeministerp> luis_fdez: we're expecting some good ad bits
15:45:02 <EmilienM> primeministerp: great
15:45:13 <primeministerp> luis_fdez: also we'd love to hear about additional bits of interest at cern
15:45:28 <primeministerp> luis_fdez: specifically around user experience, and interaction w/ hyper-v nodes
15:45:56 <primeministerp> ok if't that' it i'll end the meeting
15:46:12 <primeministerp> anything additonal we'll be in the openstack-hyper-v channel
15:46:31 <primeministerp> AndrewWeiss: o anything to add
15:46:40 <primeministerp> AndrewWeiss: we should talk in a bit
15:46:47 <AndrewWeiss> primeministerp: not that i can think of
15:46:52 <AndrewWeiss> and yea i want to catch up with you
15:47:03 <AndrewWeiss> really interested in contributing to the docs and getting things deployed and running
15:47:08 <primeministerp> AndrewWeiss: lync me in a few
15:47:14 <AndrewWeiss> will do
15:47:16 <primeministerp> AndrewWeiss: perfect
15:47:26 <primeministerp> annegentle: i'll be bugging you in a few
15:47:30 <primeministerp> ;)
15:47:37 <primeministerp> #endmeeting