20:01:09 #startmeeting horizondrivers 20:01:10 Meeting started Wed May 4 20:01:09 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is robcresswell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:01:11 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:01:11 (◠‿◠✿)ノ 20:01:13 The meeting name has been set to 'horizondrivers' 20:01:25 o/ 20:01:30 hi! 20:01:32 o/ 20:01:43 o 20:01:57 o/ 20:02:14 Hi everyone 20:02:34 There's a couple things to discuss before looking at blueprints 20:02:42 #topic Notices 20:03:19 I'm planning the midcycle with some Cisco folk, will send out a list of potential dates this week. If anyone else would also like to volunteer to host, let me know. 20:03:29 Options are always good :) 20:03:59 we can always host in fort collins. 20:04:08 just as an option 20:04:24 I can do Santa Clara or Hillsboro 20:04:45 *can offer 20:05:02 ha, I read that as "I will only go to these two locations" 20:05:17 Great, thanks. Will add that to the email. 20:05:21 if I'm not hosting, I'm not coming :P 20:05:30 LOL 20:05:35 So for those who missed the summit, the etherpads are here: 20:05:38 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Newton/Etherpads#Horizon 20:05:58 The priorities and feedback ones are especially import IMO. 20:06:07 I'd recommend reading through the notes. 20:06:57 I've also brought back the weekly bug report idea and linked it in the Horizon IRC room topic 20:07:00 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Horizon/WeeklyBugReport 20:07:22 If you only get time to do a handful of reviews each week, pick up those patches first so we can move quickly on them. 20:07:45 Anyone can add to it, and I'll be curating it too so it doesnt turn into Launchpad No.2 20:08:30 re: launchpad, a lot of bugs have relevant tags now, such as a service name, or a particular focus like ux or angular. 20:08:48 So if you have some particular knowledge that will help you filter better :) 20:09:07 yes, those tags are helpful 20:09:21 i looked through the angular ones yesterday. 20:09:28 found one with a review up and reviewed it 20:09:44 Sounds good 20:10:04 #topic Earlier feature freeze 20:10:30 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/093525.html 20:10:54 The chain seems to have got lost, but that email and the first reply are the ones with the majority of the discussion anyway. 20:11:42 It's been a fairly common theme that we're making too many breaking changes too late, and given the growing plugin architecture we should consider FF a week earlier. 20:12:22 This would likely be R-6 instead of R-5, just to give others a week to fix things. 20:12:26 so, frameworky things vs core services in horizon may need to be treated differently 20:12:42 Yeah, the main discussion is how we want to scope this 20:12:57 We could restrict horizon/ for example 20:13:02 e.g. cinder panel vs reusable widget 20:13:07 Yep 20:13:42 Long term we may pursue a more official split repo, but its not a priority for now. 20:14:17 Thoughts/ 20:14:19 ?* 20:14:56 re: FF or scope of the FF? 20:15:34 FF: good 20:15:41 FF scope: broad 20:16:24 if we want core things in late, let's make explicit exceptions 20:17:21 My internet gave up for a moment there. 20:17:44 well, we got it all figured out. 20:17:49 so what's next? 20:17:59 ;) 20:19:07 robcresswell: is your modem plugged in? 20:19:36 Right, I caught up 20:20:52 david-lyle: "broad" meaning you'd like to FF on horizon and o_d? 20:21:10 yes 20:21:16 there is an exception process 20:21:22 let's use it 20:21:28 if necessary 20:21:50 Yep 20:22:12 There are not a lot of opinions in this room today. Guess everyone used them all up at the summit :) 20:22:25 #topic Blueprint review 20:22:25 o/ 20:22:58 robcresswell: if you want to move FFE process up a week, I'm okay with that 20:23:16 Yeah, lets do it. Should help the plugins. 20:23:17 yeah, me too 20:23:27 on to blueprints. 20:23:32 robcresswell: it will make your life easier lining up with global expectations 20:23:41 This was carried over from the previous meeting: 20:23:54 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/hierarchical-projects 20:24:10 are heirarchical projects still a thing? 20:24:55 r1chardj0n3s: yes and no 20:25:02 yes in keystone, no beyond 20:25:11 no quota support 20:25:11 right :-) 20:25:42 It looks like kenji was trying to resurrect it 20:25:46 my previous stance was to wait for someone, anyone else to support it first 20:26:27 it's a UX quagmire 20:27:00 every time i got pulled into those discussions, i left confused 20:27:23 the role inheritance alone will make you want to run 20:27:26 Yeah I'm just scanning the linked blueprints 20:27:46 I honest hoped the thing would die 20:27:51 haha 20:28:22 I don't see any reason to actively block it, but it doesn't seem like there's a big need for it. 20:28:34 and with quota completely blocked it my be asphyxiated yet 20:28:49 What was the issue there? 20:28:59 the changes to certain views will be considerable 20:29:48 Well, I'm adequately scared. 20:30:04 the issue was things move slowly, quota can't be updated to support hierarchies because existing quota is flawed, adding more complexity to something already broken won't fix it 20:30:22 so quota was to be fixed first then hierarchy 20:30:38 robcresswell: my confusion was probably more of a lack of ability to really focus on it. so don't be scared just by my statements. 20:30:45 Gotcha. I wasn't aware of the quota - hierarchy link. 20:31:00 TravT: Ha, I was just amused by two people immediately reacting with "oh no" 20:31:22 all identity views get really complicated 20:31:30 project selection gets complicated 20:31:41 hierarchy navigation isn't even a thing yet 20:31:52 #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/hierarchical-projects Left blocked, comments inline 20:32:49 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/angular-registry 20:33:14 So this has been properly split into its own blueprint 20:33:35 We've already talked about moving forward with it, but wanted to highlight that it now has its own content 20:33:50 Rather than the ever-growing angular-images bp :) 20:34:05 \o/ for the split 20:34:30 i think much of the content there could be pulled over into a documentation patch as well. 20:34:41 nice idea 20:35:09 That'd be good 20:35:39 Does anyone have any blueprints they'd like to raise? Otherwise I'll just start picking from the pile. 20:37:15 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/automated-test-coverage-reports 20:37:41 We already have coverage running, so we can remove this afaik. 20:38:17 yeah remove 20:40:32 Struggling to find many new blueprints, so we can end the meeting early if there are no more to add. 20:41:46 #endmeeting