12:01:08 #startmeeting Horizon 12:01:09 Meeting started Wed Nov 25 12:01:08 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is david-lyle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 12:01:10 hey amotoki o/ 12:01:11 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 12:01:13 The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' 12:01:33 O/ 12:01:43 o/ 12:02:06 o/ 12:02:07 o/ 12:02:14 o/ 12:04:04 Hello all 12:04:15 we had a bug day yesterday 12:04:22 hello 12:05:07 Looks like robcresswell just sent the results to the dev ML 12:05:27 oh cool. I've been away from work(ish) today so I've not caught up 12:05:57 140 bugs categorized and 50 marked no longer valid 12:06:00 http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-November/080467.html 12:06:01 I got a feeling that we need bug week instead :) 12:06:33 definitely worth doing more 12:06:45 I had the impression, that must have been more bugs invalidated 12:06:47 I gotta learn not to get bogged down on one or two bugs ;-) 12:07:18 we can have a bug day for every week 12:07:34 still we reach some decent number 12:08:11 I think it's good progress 12:08:22 agree that we have more coming 12:08:34 s/coming/to do/ 12:09:02 thanks to robcresswell for organizing 12:09:14 Maybe a bug week would be a better solution? =) Given the fact that people live in different time-zone a more broad time-spawn for such an event might be beneficial. 12:09:50 I don't think, that's a real issue 12:10:13 I'm kind of half here. I think the occasional day is a good focus point. Nobody can spare a week, but a day every month or so? 12:10:15 kzaitsev_mb: what about the timezones did you think didn't work? 12:10:18 kzaitsev_ws, on the other hand, scrubbing bugs for the whole week would be boring 12:10:26 tsufiev: +1 12:10:27 kzaitsev_mb: I'd rather have days separated. I think people would lose interest and focus over a longer of period of time 12:10:35 tsufiev: +1 12:10:49 or what tsufiev said 12:10:58 tsufiev: +1 12:11:27 tsufiev, yes, even the whole day is kind of boring ;) 12:11:55 * tsufiev acting in role of Captain Obvious :) 12:12:29 #topic priority review 12:12:44 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-horizon-priorities 12:14:21 For plugins, documentation is blocked on me 12:14:35 still writing, hope to post today 12:14:56 localization, not sure any work is being done 12:15:05 localization for plugins that is 12:16:02 adding angular content 12:16:48 seems several patches have merged, but much of the meat has not 12:17:07 I know on the images stuff Travis was helping them out on the APIs still 12:17:58 theming docs have landed 12:18:27 pbr spec is still WIP, correct r1chardj0n3s 12:18:29 ? 12:18:39 I need to review the latest revision 12:18:54 yeah, I poked at Monty today to try to get it moving, he said to poke Robert :/ 12:19:06 ok 12:19:07 I'm not sure what else I can do to get that thing moving 12:19:41 (I don't feel right hassling Robert so much, but pbr has no other reviewers AFAICT) 12:20:37 I think it's moving as fast as it will 12:20:49 yeah 12:21:44 I also started splitting out Sahara content 12:22:13 david-lyle, right now I'm talking with our Sahara guys about moving integration tests to sahara-dashboard 12:22:17 that needs some more work on the destination side by me 12:22:38 tsufiev: great, I didn't get to a plan on that 12:22:54 looks like phantomjs is about to merge, thanks reviewers! 12:22:54 although with the use of run_tests.sh in the destination repo 12:23:09 next up is merging the webdrivers, which tsufiev will love to review! :-) 12:23:14 I think I may have an idea 12:23:24 r1chardj0n3s, yes, it's in my queue 12:24:10 any other priority items I missed? 12:24:55 ok, moving on the the agenda 12:24:59 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Horizon#Agenda_for_November_25 12:25:23 #topic weekly bug report 12:25:27 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Horizon/WeeklyBugReport 12:27:01 so Diana's patches are all gated on the HTML unit testing patch that could probably use some thought from more folks 12:27:35 switching over to DOM-based testing has altered the scope of the tests, and we just need to be cool with that, or add additional tests to cover the bits lost in the translation 12:28:20 * david-lyle needs to look at that patch 12:28:43 #topic Horizon and django-debreach 12:29:06 I added this topic 12:29:43 so, there is a specific django app proposed for adding to requirements.txt and horizon config 12:30:20 it's used for mitigating BREACH attack, which AFAIU could be used to steal some cookie data from HTTPS sessions 12:30:26 background https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn/+bug/1209250 12:30:26 Launchpad bug 1209250 in OpenStack Security Notes "Configure Horizon to mitigate BREACH/CRIME attacks" [Undecided,Fix released] - Assigned to Robert Clark (robert-clark) 12:31:01 so the problem is around using compression with Django 12:31:56 I'm not sure django-debreach is the answer 12:32:00 I wonder how much will be the performance impact if we disable gzip middleware 12:32:18 tsufiev: that should be the default behavior now 12:32:33 agree 12:33:01 david-lyle, so, the recommended fix is to disable gzip compression in Django and do not touch django-debreach in upstream? 12:33:17 that's what the OSSN says, yes 12:33:48 the django-debreach package has some fishy wording 12:34:20 "Adds middleware and context processors to give some protection against the BREACH attack in Django" 12:34:27 some protection 12:34:30 :) 12:34:38 "When combined with rate limiting in your web-server, or by using something like django-ratelimit, the techniques here should provide at least some protection against the BREACH attack." 12:34:52 I got an impression that django-debreach app alone is not enough 12:34:55 I think this should be a deployer choice rather than our default 12:35:27 I think adding a note to the OSSN wiki page would be the best answer 12:35:41 along the lines of here's an option that may work for you 12:36:09 don't we need to add some note to our document? 12:36:22 it would be helpful for new deployers. 12:36:42 amotoki: we certainly can do that too 12:38:10 any other thoughts on django-debreach? 12:38:21 anyone for making it the default? 12:38:52 well, perhaps we'll make it default in our downstream distro 12:39:20 discussing right now with our security engineer 12:40:32 #topic Dashboards for Neutron subprojects (amotoki) 12:40:43 I started a mailing thread about dashboard for neutron subproject. 12:40:54 I could not have time to discuss it during the summit :-( 12:41:12 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-November/080441.html 12:41:31 I think there are various opinions on this. 12:41:46 I would like to have opinions from horizon reviewer side. 12:42:23 amotoki: so these are new subprojects not already supported? 12:42:34 * david-lyle quickly parsed email 12:43:01 david-lyle: mostly yes. 12:43:11 how related are they, other than neutron stuff? 12:43:14 for example, networking service chaining (sfc) is a good example. 12:43:27 oh yeah, the 4500 line patch :) 12:43:39 david-lyle, sorry for the late question, but we still don't have a patch for disable gzip middleware, do we? 12:43:53 they are neutron stuff but they are emerging projects. 12:43:57 tsufiev: it's not enabled by default 12:44:31 one point is that they are optional. 12:44:40 ah, got it, thanks! 12:44:42 amotoki: I think the best way to make progress on those is to not have them in tree in Horizon 12:45:04 now how to organize the repo(s), not sure 12:45:12 david-lyle: agree. 12:45:42 it's possible to put many panels in one repo that would add to the existing networking panel group 12:46:37 I am afraid if we have dashboard directory in each tree it makes horizon developer difficult to be aware of dashboard changes. 12:46:55 because most of patches in such projects are unrelated to horizon. 12:47:23 amotoki, shouldn't we use release notes mechanism for these notifications from now on? 12:47:24 amotoki: dashboard directory? 12:48:10 david-lyle: we can use dashboard directory, but I am not sure gerrit query support it to find changes under dashboard/ directory. 12:48:34 tsufiev: could you elaborate more? 12:49:37 amotoki, ah, now I realized that this won't help, because release notes for, say. neutron-specific-dashboard will be inside that repo and horizon devs wouldn't read it 12:49:56 amotoki: I'm trying to understand the choices still 12:50:05 1) in horizon tree 12:50:20 what i I want to say by "dashboard directory" is that each neutorn subproject has 'dashboard/' direcotry for horizon integration. 12:50:45 2) neutron-horizon-repo 12:51:17 3) neutron/dashboard like neutron/devstack 12:51:36 3) neutron-foo/dashboard 12:51:42 4) feature-a-dash repo, feature-b-dash repo 12:51:54 4) neutron-foo-dashbaord repor 12:52:06 amotoki, on the other hand, why should horizon developers be aware of new dashboards built on horizon? 12:52:42 tsufiev: I think it is important to share horizon development conventions or similar things. 12:52:48 amotoki: I'm not sure I like 3 12:53:25 the reason is requiring cohabitation of the neutron foo package on the horizon server 12:53:43 it works for devstack because devstack is intended to be single server 12:54:04 I think sharing a horizon and neutron controller would be odd 12:54:15 for deployment 12:54:22 in ubuntu packaging, xxx-common (like nova-common, neutorn-common) provides python modules 12:54:43 and xxx-api package provider entry points or configuration files. 12:54:46 in this case, it works. 12:55:14 I don't know about rpm packaging side. 12:55:29 amotoki, IMO, the sharing works much better in horizon->dashboards direction than in the opposite one :/. Well, that's entirely opinionated 12:57:03 amotoki: if they are packaged separately, that could be fine, but the testing apparatus between the two parts will be different 12:57:21 david-lyle: i see. 12:57:49 so far all other projects have chosen a separate repo, but they aren't managing all the sub-projects that neutron is 12:58:13 I can see the desire to not have so many repos 12:58:36 I will respond to the thread, others feel free to respond too 12:59:00 so I think it is important to have some reasonable collaboration point between neutron(subprojects) and horizon. 12:59:07 david-lyle: thanks. 12:59:14 amotoki: I agree completely 12:59:18 we need inputs from both neutron and horizon sides. 13:00:27 time's up. Thanks everyone. 13:00:31 #endmeeting