16:02:55 <david-lyle> #startmeeting Horizon
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16:03:00 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'horizon'
16:03:26 <lblanchard> o/ hey all
16:03:31 <david-lyle> Hello everyone
16:03:35 <jpich> Hello
16:03:38 <mrunge> hello o/
16:03:41 <pbelanyi> hi
16:03:44 <fixedgary> hi
16:03:46 <doug-fish> hi all!
16:04:32 <david-lyle> The summit is next week, so I expect this meeting to be short
16:04:52 <mrunge> great! I like short meetings :D
16:04:59 <jrist> o/
16:05:13 <david-lyle> Thanks to everyone for starting the session discussions on the mailing list, that will help make the sessions in Atlanta more productive
16:06:13 <david-lyle> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Juno/Etherpads
16:06:34 <david-lyle> for talk outlines
16:06:43 <jcoufal> o/
16:07:27 <david-lyle> The other outstanding issue is the review back up.
16:07:52 <david-lyle> We have a high number of reviews, I personally have been pulled away for the past couple weeks and need to dig back in
16:08:10 <mrunge> yeah, same here
16:08:26 <david-lyle> I understand the frustration around the wait times, to speed things up please help review patches
16:09:04 <david-lyle> I would love to grow the horizon core team to help spread the review load, but I need individuals who are providing consistent high value reviews to do that
16:09:59 <david-lyle> I don't have any other general remarks, so
16:10:04 <david-lyle> #topic Open Discussion
16:10:50 <crobertsrh> If anyone wants to talk about the Sahara UI and the merging of that code, I'll be at Summit.  I think the change requests are all available now.
16:10:51 <doug-fish> I've noticed that the QA team is planning an informal meetup for their team at the summit.  That sounds like a great idea.  Is there a plan for such a thing for the Horizon team?
16:11:25 <jpich> There's going to be "project pods" for folks to informally meet at any time, I think
16:11:36 <crobertsrh> There will also be a couple sahara-related sessions at summit that might give a better look into what the UI is in its current state.
16:12:05 <mrunge> crobertsrh, yes, at least some of us should show up there as well
16:12:06 <david-lyle> crobertsrh, I look forward to the sessions and speaking with you
16:12:12 <crobertsrh> Excellent
16:12:29 <jrist> doug-fish, jpich, jonwoon - I am interested in working with accessibility in Horizon, among other things. looking forward to seeing you in Atlanta
16:12:41 <doug-fish> cool!
16:12:53 <doug-fish> I guess we'll need to hang out at the pod.  :-)
16:13:14 <jrist> yeah
16:13:26 <jpich> and at the session :P
16:13:31 <jrist> yeah of course
16:13:36 <doug-fish> naturally
16:13:38 <jrist> open the fire hose
16:13:52 <lblanchard> :)
16:13:56 <mrunge> cool. sounds like a plan.
16:13:59 <david-lyle> doug-fish: we're you thinking more socially, or more along the project pods?
16:14:18 <doug-fish> I was thinking more socally
16:14:26 <doug-fish> That's not what the project pods are about?
16:14:26 <jrist> so-cal-ly
16:14:38 <jrist> scotch tastings?
16:14:49 <doug-fish> I'm more of a beer man.
16:14:56 <jrist> I'm allergic :(
16:14:58 <david-lyle> wasn't sure beer vs no beer
16:15:40 <doug-fish> I guess my thinking is that meeting informally over a beer early in the week may lead to more productive discussions as we dig into the technical issues.
16:15:45 <jpich> I imagine the pods to be pretty chilled out and informal, though I guess we'll see how these turn out
16:16:07 <doug-fish> (beer not required - just trying to set the tone with that statement)
16:16:15 <david-lyle> understood
16:16:24 <mrunge> what about an informal beer on Sunday evening?
16:16:39 <doug-fish> yeah that sounds great
16:16:43 <mrunge> (or tea)?
16:16:48 <lblanchard> mrunge: +1 would be nice to meet folks early!
16:16:49 <doug-fish> :-)
16:16:52 <clu__> beer/tea = icebreaker
16:17:23 <doug-fish> I'm not an experience conference goer.  How should we choose a time/location?
16:17:49 <tqtran> +1 to beer/tea time
16:17:54 <lblanchard> doug-fish: maybe suggest a location and time on the ML?
16:18:13 <lblanchard> or is that too public? :)
16:18:18 <doug-fish> lol
16:18:21 <david-lyle> that seems a bit broad
16:18:22 <jrist> I agree with clu, doug-fish
16:18:27 <doug-fish> we don't want to be overwhelmed by our groupies!
16:18:31 <jcoufal> Should we create an etherpad where we will keep info about Sunday's evening, where the people will meet? So that everybody can check the latest info?
16:18:31 <lblanchard> doug-fish: lol
16:18:43 <lblanchard> jcoufal: +1!!
16:18:45 <jrist> +1
16:18:49 <david-lyle> +1
16:18:51 <tqtran> +1 doug-fish lol
16:18:59 <jrist> horizon groupies
16:19:09 <jrist> dressed in suns and sunsets
16:19:12 <jcoufal> perfect, I will create one
16:19:14 <jpich> It'd be useful to also send it on list for Horizon folks who aren't at this meeting to see it on time
16:19:36 <david-lyle> Horizon IRC subject line?
16:19:58 <jcoufal> jpich: sure
16:20:02 <david-lyle> as in put it in
16:20:11 <jcoufal> david-lyle: +1 for it as well
16:20:23 <doug-fish> jcoufal, jpich, david-lyle:  all 3 of those sound like a good idea.
16:20:38 <mrunge> +1 sounds good to me
16:21:24 <jcoufal> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-summit-horizon-sunday-evening
16:21:41 <david-lyle> thanks jcoufal
16:21:41 <clu__> nice, thanks jcoufal
16:22:04 <jrist> jcoufal: now we just need an offline version lol
16:22:41 <mrunge> should we collect interested persons and ways to connect?
16:23:06 <tqtran> thats a good idea
16:23:08 <doug-fish> yep
16:24:29 <tzumainn> 8pm at some hotel bar?
16:24:33 <jpich> I suspect it might be simpler to just pick a time and place and whoever can make it will come
16:24:38 <jcoufal> david-lyle: I don't think I can setup the horizon channel topic (not an operator)
16:24:52 <jpich> tzumainn: that's a good idea
16:25:16 <jpich> I don't think anyone's been an operator on the Horizon channel in 2 years
16:25:41 <jpich> Based on the last update :-)
16:25:45 <david-lyle> jpich, true, it was on my list to try to remedy, hasn't bubbled to the top yet
16:26:23 <jrist> Sundial!
16:26:50 <jrist> http://sundialrestaurant.com/the-bar/
16:26:52 <jrist> hehe
16:27:12 <jpich> Is that close to the conference venue?
16:27:19 <jrist> it's atop the westin
16:27:33 <tqtran> oh wow, good choice jrist!
16:27:35 <tzumainn> yeah, pretty close
16:27:41 <david-lyle> well that's close for me :)
16:27:50 <jrist> same haha
16:27:54 <jrist> they'll never expect a dozen people
16:27:59 <jrist> at 8PM on a sunday
16:28:05 <tzumainn> although
16:28:07 <tzumainn> it is mother's day
16:28:13 <jrist> touche
16:28:25 <doug-fish> We could call ahead and warn them
16:28:33 <mrunge> could someone call them to make a reservation?
16:28:38 <mrunge> 20 persons?
16:28:52 * lsmola will come too
16:30:08 <jrist> maybe we should all use glassboard
16:30:13 <jrist> to coordinate
16:30:17 <jrist> since some are from out of town
16:30:17 <david-lyle> says no reservation for bar
16:30:30 <jrist> http://glassboard.com/
16:30:53 <david-lyle> 3 levels, levle 73 is all bar 240 capacity
16:30:59 <tzumainn> I dunno, why don't we just show up there at 8pm?
16:31:00 <david-lyle> level
16:31:00 <lsmola> or g+ event?
16:31:07 <jrist> yeah or g+
16:32:01 <lsmola> tzumainn: we should use some app :-)
16:32:21 <jpich> Agreed, with tzumainn, sounds like we have a time and location, let's see what happens :)
16:32:37 <lsmola> cool
16:32:46 <tzumainn> from my experience in tuskar, overplanning leads to tears : (
16:33:23 <lsmola> lol
16:33:37 <jrist> cry every time
16:34:10 <tqtran> lol
16:34:36 <david-lyle> now that we have the most important item resolved, any others?
16:34:40 <doug-fish> Maybe we should promote the time/location from "Proposed" to "Decided"
16:34:46 <doug-fish> :-)  I'm good now.
16:35:07 <jrist> :)
16:35:24 <david-lyle> we now have two emails to the dev list
16:35:43 <david-lyle> if you're planning a third, we can likely hold off ;)
16:35:45 <doug-fish> overacheivers.
16:35:51 <lblanchard> lol
16:36:00 <lblanchard> so much passion around this topic though!!
16:36:30 <jcoufal> I am sorry :)
16:36:36 <david-lyle> no worries
16:37:12 <tzumainn> sooo - can we tentatively say we have a place and time, and send out an update on the etherpad and mailing list if it changes?
16:37:24 <jrist> yes
16:37:26 <david-lyle> sounds good
16:37:31 <tzumainn> /thumbsup
16:37:37 * jrist seconds the motion
16:37:39 <jcoufal> tzumainn: IShould we send the change to mailing list?
16:37:54 <jcoufal> Wouldn't it be easier to follow just one source?
16:38:07 <tzumainn> sure!  someone reply with the tentative location and time, I vote jrist so he gets credit for finding the place
16:38:58 <jcoufal> tzumainn: looks like your motivation was not good enough :)
16:41:03 <jcoufal> it was... thanks jrist
16:41:45 <jrist> sure
16:41:56 <david-lyle> alright, looks like we're saving it for Atlanta.  I'm looking forward to seeing all who can make it.  No IRC meeting next week, for those reading at home.
16:42:19 <david-lyle> See everyone on Sunday
16:42:31 <david-lyle> #endmeeting