22:01:39 #startmeeting Horizon 22:01:40 Meeting started Tue Jan 7 22:01:39 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mrunge. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 22:01:41 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 22:01:43 The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' 22:01:57 hello and welcome 22:01:59 hey 22:02:00 hello 22:02:06 hey 22:02:14 o/ 22:02:17 Hey 22:02:23 hello 22:02:30 ahoy 22:02:45 sadly, David can't attend right now, but he will join us later 22:03:11 let's have a brief look at the agenda 22:03:13 https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Horizon 22:03:31 #topic project update 22:03:49 icehouse-2 milestone is due on jan 23rd (?) 22:03:58 I may be wrong there 22:04:25 still, everything not merged next tuesday will be moved to icehouse-3 22:04:34 Milestone-proposed branch cut-off is usually 2 days before the date 22:04:54 david mentioned something like january 14th 22:05:39 I'll take this as an opportunity, to look at bugs and blueprints targeted for i-2 22:05:48 https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/icehouse-2 22:06:38 currently, we have 13 bugs without code, one of them confirmed 22:06:52 and 19 bugs needing code reviews 22:07:17 shall we inspect them in more detail? 22:07:35 ttx: hallo from perth 22:09:47 mrunge, could you plese give this one high priority https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1266505 22:09:53 esp. I'd love to see both bugs with prio high merged for i-2 if possible 22:10:01 mrunge, prevents line chart from working 22:10:15 mrunge, and it is tribial fix 22:10:33 lsmola, done 22:10:37 mrunge, mvidori did too much refactoring :-) 22:10:40 thanks 22:10:46 and also targeted to i-2 22:10:55 cool, thank you 22:10:57 it is currently on merge 22:11:21 yes, I got a report, that the "select all" jscript doesn't work any more 22:11:35 MaxV, great, didnt noticed 22:11:36 but I didn't file a bug until now 22:12:01 mrunge: fill the bug I can make a quick patch 22:12:22 maxv will do tomorrow, as it's quite late here 22:12:25 mrunge: that should be already fixed, I believe 22:12:27 Didn't this get fixed recently? 22:12:31 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61467/ 22:13:00 jpich, yes, looks like it 22:13:04 Thanks, akrivoka! I think a duplicate was filed since then 22:13:15 when did we release i-1? 22:13:23 the report is against i-1 22:13:51 so we might check it again 22:14:11 other important bugs to be targeted for i-2? 22:14:23 i-1 was Dec 5th 22:14:37 yes,and it was merged on 27th 22:14:43 so, not included 22:15:09 this is probably the new duplicate report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1266825 22:15:32 yupp, 22:15:36 akrivoka: Yep, just updated it 22:15:38 looks like it 22:15:41 cool 22:16:01 cool, thanks jpich ! 22:16:10 Np :) 22:17:24 does anyone know more about https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1265032 ? 22:17:38 it looks quite serious 22:18:32 at least, it will be difficult to debug in production, when that happens 22:18:48 mrunge, hmm from what I understood it just show wrong data for couple of minutes 22:18:51 IMO it's always been the case so far, that it can take a bit of time for the floating IP to be displayed on the Instances page 22:20:10 as far as we don't rely on shown data 22:20:22 anything else? 22:20:56 #topic meeting time 22:22:05 thanks to lblanchard, we had the doodle 22:22:11 http://www.doodle.com/q8q6iu8gcqp6c4xa 22:22:42 and it looks like best times are 2 pm or 4 pm UTC 22:22:53 both are not ideal 22:23:35 at 2 pm, we'll exclude david-lyle , at 4pm we'll exclude amotoki 22:23:59 if anyone of you didn't answer the poll yet, please do so!! 22:25:06 opinions here? 22:25:34 done 22:26:08 mrunge, I guess we should ask amotoki and david-lyle which is less worse for them :-) 22:26:37 it's way early or very late for them... 22:26:54 we could also try and ask people to relax their rules a little and add times that are not ideal for them, but still possible 22:27:10 maybe another time will appear 22:27:28 Done 22:27:31 which is equally uncomfortable for everyone 22:28:16 The current time is OK for me (though I'm not actively doing Horizon right now), but I know it's already pretty inconvenient for, say, all of Europe. 22:28:18 TheSheep, :-) 22:28:30 There's also the "alternate every week" solution that projects like Ceilometer are using to accommodate different timezones 22:28:47 jpich, yes 22:29:01 matty_dubs, well, this time gets worse for Europeans during summer time... 22:29:32 I think for most of us located in the central europe, this will be a welcome change :) 22:30:08 jpich: That's not a bad idea. I think there comes a point where it's just impossible to get everyone in a meeting unless people are willing to call in at 3am or something. 22:30:19 o/ 22:30:29 hello 22:30:33 hey david-lyle_ welcome back 22:30:43 \o 22:30:45 Sorry I'm late 22:31:29 david, we just have talked about meeting time 22:31:37 I don't have any history so carry on 22:31:54 and it looks like 2 or 4 pm (UTC) is best 22:31:59 both are not idea 22:32:01 ideal 22:32:17 either we cut of amotoki or you 22:32:18 Poll didn't reveal a consensus seemed like 22:33:40 o/ sorry I'm a bit late :) 22:33:50 david-lyle_, for 15 out of 20 persons those times would work 22:33:51 lblanchard, hello 22:34:06 which is something I didn't expect 22:34:21 Was I one? Can't remember :) 22:34:50 david-lyle_, http://www.doodle.com/q8q6iu8gcqp6c4xa is the poll 22:35:07 but it may be hard to read on a small display 22:35:32 I'd leave it to our PTL to decide that later ;-) 22:35:43 Ah yes. I was thinking 2:00 utc 22:36:28 All right there were some late votes I think. I'll pick when I have a big screen 22:36:44 yes, that's quite early for you, I think. not sure if that could/would work for Australians 22:36:53 #topic Discuss integration of Tuskar UI 22:37:18 who brought the topic? who can enlighten us here? 22:37:32 I have not had a chance to work on coordinating this yet with the holidays 22:37:35 mrunge, me? 22:37:46 :-) 22:38:16 Need to get with infra and lifeless 22:38:18 lsmola, anything to add here? 22:38:42 david-lyle_, should we move it to the next meeting? 22:38:47 mrunge, well there was a consensus of what we want, so nothing to add from my side 22:39:11 david-lyle_, great, thank you 22:39:11 Yes, hopefully by that time we'll have it done 22:39:32 yaaaay 22:40:06 great 22:40:27 #topic open floor 22:40:31 Awesome :) 22:40:38 lsmola: With help from julim on requirements I was able to put together these: http://people.redhat.com/~lsurette/OpenStack/Horizon%20Admin%20Overview%20Pages_2.0.pdf 22:40:44 anything else? 22:41:01 feedback from any and all is welcome…these are directed towards updating the admin overview page 22:41:04 lblanchard, excellent 22:41:16 lsmola: currently working on the resource usage page 22:41:26 lsmola: hope to have a design by next meeting to run by you :) 22:42:15 lblanchard: looks good 22:42:29 it's quite full, right? 22:42:30 lblanchard, very cool, thank you 22:42:36 david-lyle: thanks 22:42:39 mrunge: it is 22:42:44 or it looks packed with stuff 22:42:46 Implementation detail, asynchronous data loading 22:43:00 lblanchard, I will check the overview pages tomorrow, to see what will be possible with current ceilometer 22:43:08 any chance to make it less dense? 22:43:24 mrunge: I've talked to a number of solution architects about this in the past…they are not new users to these applications and would like to have as much information as needed on one screen…they will drill in for more details. We could think about pulling some details out though. 22:43:32 mrunge: I hope to do some usability testing too! 22:44:01 It really is a dashboard view 22:44:09 lblanchard, are people used to look at those pages, e.g because others do it like this? 22:44:21 Is this for all users or admins? 22:44:28 david-lyle: this is meant for admins 22:44:55 Limited subset for domain admins and members? 22:44:56 mrunge: I think it depends on the user... 22:45:09 mrunge: consumers who are looking at a new website might go running and hiding :) 22:45:36 mrunge: but administrators want info…I will definitely ask around though about the density…I do agree it is pushing it! 22:45:50 Operators tend to want massive amounts of status especially if there is the posibility of alarms 22:46:08 lblanchard, I like it, because it sums up a massive amount of data 22:46:13 david-lyle: also, the idea would be to have a global area for alerts at the top 22:46:26 we need to do some thinking around how to make this work best 22:46:29 mrunge, btw. the future plan is to make these pages configurable 22:46:30 and I assume, you get used to it. 22:46:45 lsmola, no. honestly? 22:46:52 then we need a database 22:46:58 to store config 22:47:06 mrunge, well why not, there will be a lot of ceilometer metrics 22:47:08 lsmola, mrunge: configurable would be nice, but…if we know the users enough we won't need this :) 22:47:26 currently, horizon doesn't need that 22:47:27 We are approaching that eventuality I worry 22:47:28 mrunge, also specific to some users (they can add their own) 22:47:28 it's kind of an excuse for not knowing EXACTLY what our users want…we should be able to figure it out! 22:47:52 sp we don't have to hazzle with database migrations and such stuff 22:47:57 I think this would be an amazing start at least 22:48:10 then we could run it by a bunch of people and continuously improve it 22:48:13 yes, a good step ahead 22:48:41 I imagine it will come in incrementally as far as patches anyway 22:48:53 julim might have more feedback too, I will add this as a link to the BP and be sure to keep it updated 22:48:57 david-lyle: for sure 22:49:04 yep, but it is a more distant future anyway 22:49:19 now we need the basics :-) 22:49:42 Exactly 22:50:15 agreed 22:50:26 cool. 22:50:48 anything else? 22:51:17 I will try to release openstack -auth tomorrow 22:52:19 great david-lyle_ thank you. I'll try to add django-1.6 tests later then 22:53:00 If we can get things through the gate, we'll get support added 22:53:20 that would be good, I think 22:54:06 Matthias hopefully mentioned this already but there are only two weeks left in i-2 22:54:34 Anyone have any concerns other than the gate and reviews? 22:54:41 so till 22th? 22:54:55 Sounds right 22:55:00 ok 22:55:03 Do we want i-2 stuff to be merged by Tuesday, or have code up for review by Tuesday? 22:55:21 david-lyle_, actually, I told, we need i-2 stuff merged next Tuesday 22:55:54 That would be saner as I fear we'll be fighting the gate for a while 22:56:05 but that might be simply wrong 22:56:12 ugh, we will need a ram 22:56:41 yes, the gate became a real pain during the last few days 22:56:42 lsmola: you are a barbarian 22:56:43 Hopefully the full stop of today will not be a problem again 22:57:07 jomara, no, barbarian coulnt build a proper ram :-) 22:59:08 ok, thanks for coming 22:59:12 Thanks mrunge for hosting 22:59:13 #endmeeting