22:00:44 #startmeeting horizon 22:00:44 Meeting started Tue Aug 13 22:00:44 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gabrielhurley. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 22:00:45 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 22:00:48 The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' 22:00:53 #topic overview 22:00:58 hello hello! 22:01:02 \o_ 22:01:04 Hello 22:01:06 howdy 22:01:12 hello! 22:01:15 hi everybody! 22:01:50 okee doke, let's do this 22:02:03 on the projet-wide level, we're a few weeks out from H3 22:02:18 I've pared down the blueprint list a good deal the last two days 22:02:35 I reached out to several of the assignees of BPs that hadn't been updated for a while and had no code 22:02:44 they almost all responded to say they would like to defer 22:02:57 I also made one unilateral call about the realtime spec stuff 22:03:19 Given the scope of that change I think we'd be much wiser to land it in I1 instead of H3 22:03:28 that gives us the entire I cycle to polish it and build on it 22:03:48 I still intend to spend some time with the patch prior to opening up I, but landing it now seems... inadvisable 22:03:53 I know that's a little disappointing 22:03:59 but it's the smart thing to do for the project 22:04:11 also, we can focus on getting ceilometer and keystone work really nailed down for this release. 22:04:36 So, with that set of deferrals we're in good shape for H3 22:04:51 gabrielhurley: agree about the realtime stuff. it will give us a chance to actually implement useful bits on top too 22:04:58 :-) 22:05:09 On another general note, a very interesting discussion has started on the mailing list about the purpose and necessity of pagination 22:05:17 I don't have the link handy, sorry 22:05:44 but I weighed in today, and I'm thinking that we could all move forward together to do away with pagination entirely. If that's not enough to get you interested, I don't know what is. ;-) 22:05:58 I encourage participation in that discussion 22:06:17 let's move on to blueprint updates 22:06:23 #topic blueprints 22:06:53 o/ hi all 22:07:07 I'll go quickly. I posted reviews for adding more Hypervisor stats: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41193/ and availability zone info: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41550/ to take care of two of the BPs assigned to me 22:07:19 thanks for the feedback on those so far, fresh patchsets are up on both 22:07:34 with the deferrals those are now the only two assigned to me 22:07:49 I'm going to spend the rest of my focus for the next few weeks on ceilometer 22:07:59 I wanna make sure we get that in and make it as good as possible. 22:08:09 who else has updates? 22:08:16 working away on rbac support, hopefully I will have code up for review later this week 22:08:42 primary focus is a keystone based policy file for this first pass 22:08:48 gabrielhurley: I have an update on blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/boot-from-volume-type-imageu 22:08:55 could you please review and write some comments for patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41728/ It's in-progress and was specially pubished today to ask your to add comments on it. We are working on testing the patch and preparation of unit-tests now. 22:09:28 david-lyle: sounds good. will definitely review when you get that up. 22:10:04 I have the Project Role assignment to Group ready for review https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/group-role-assignment, after that get merged I plan to continue with the Domain role assignment to Group: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/group-domain-role-assignment. 22:10:06 vasiliy: did you mean this blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/improved-boot-from-volume ? 22:10:06 sorry - the correct blueprint is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/improved-boot-from-volume for our patch 22:10:23 gabrielhurley - yes 22:10:40 lcheng: I started looking at that code, I still need to pull it down and run it. I can probably do so this week. 22:10:53 vasiliy: great. can I reassign that BP to you? what's your LP username? 22:11:10 garbrielhurley: thanks! 22:11:47 anyone else have updates they'd like to give? 22:13:35 gabrielhurley: I registered a couple of swift related blueprints: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/swift-display-metadata 22:13:35 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/swift-container-public-access 22:13:35 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/swift-download-tempurl 22:13:45 gabrielhurley: please assign blueprint to author of patch - "vzhelezniakov" 22:13:53 lcheng: I'm in favor for all of those in I 22:14:01 vasiliy: you got it 22:14:19 gabrielhurley: ok - good - thanks 22:14:35 #topic open discussion 22:14:53 I swear I had something I was thinking about, and now I've forgotten what it was 22:14:54 gabrielhurley: I might be able to have some bandwidth to work on it for H3, but if you prefer it for I, no problem. :-) 22:15:10 oh, one thing I've got 22:15:52 the organizer for the OpenStack on Ales conference is interested in having someone from the Horizon team at the conference and asked me who he might contact since I can't make it: http://openstack.onales.com/ 22:15:58 if anyone's interested I can put you in touch 22:16:12 just ping me or email me 22:16:48 just got an email regarding that, do you have any idea what the open space involves? 22:16:58 not really, sorry 22:17:03 no worries 22:17:10 It sounds like a fun conference though 22:17:20 a couple of other folks from nebula are planning to go 22:17:56 regarding the network quotas question from the last meeting. I'm fairly sure that API is not implemented yet 22:18:08 on the neutron side 22:18:20 yeah, like I said I'm pretty sure I'm gonna bump it in the next day or two, I just wanted to get confirmation ;-) 22:18:42 I don't like arbitrarily bumping people's blueprints without giving them a chance for a last-minute miracle 22:19:09 but most likely it'll be in I somewhere 22:19:35 on a different note, I believe the voting for the new UX tool ended last week, but if the winner was announced I missed it. I don't see jcoufal here, anyone else know what happened that? 22:19:41 a/that/there 22:19:44 askbot 22:19:47 ah 22:19:48 cool 22:19:52 he's out this week 22:20:48 great, well I'm excited to start using that. I actually got a useful answer out of the openstack askbot today about ATC status. good times. 22:22:47 just for the record, I consider myself only nominally in charge of the design/UX community in openstack. I fully expect that community to develop on its own and for it to lead and guide itself. I will drive other projects (especially Horizon) to turn to that community, but if I seem aloof from these decisions, it's only 'cuz I don't feel they're mine to make any more than any other community member. 22:23:25 just nice to have a community to pose these questions to 22:23:57 It's likely that the UX group will (at some point) grow into its own team or sub-team under one of the existing programs with its own leadership of some sort and its own deliverables. 22:24:13 a better tool will improve the experience, but just identifying the community was a big first step 22:24:19 absolutely 22:24:23 +1000 22:25:42 when do the design session suggestions open up for the summit? 22:25:52 good question, and I don't have an answer for that 22:26:10 send a message to the ML, maybe? 22:26:24 actually, ttx you still around? can you answer that? 22:26:47 ok, didn't know if the allotment process of sessions was still in the works 22:27:18 the allottment of which programs get how much time on what days is just now wrapped up. 22:27:28 I expect the proposal phase to open soon 22:27:57 ok, I'm not in a hurry, I'll look for the announcement 22:28:43 for sure. It'll be open for a couple weeks and I will definitely announce it when it happens. 22:28:50 anybody else got things on their minds? 22:30:53 cool then 22:30:56 good meeting folks 22:30:59 have a great week! 22:31:02 #endmeeting