13:59:52 #startmeeting heat 13:59:53 Meeting started Wed Aug 29 13:59:52 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ricolin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:59:54 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 13:59:56 The meeting name has been set to 'heat' 13:59:58 #topic roll call 14:00:23 hi again 14:00:28 haha 14:00:47 #topic PTG 14:01:16 ricolin: I would not be there, not sure if I mentioned that earlier 14:01:38 But will try and join if we've remote participation possible 14:02:15 nope, but no worry, and will try to figure out how everything gonna work 14:02:27 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/2018-Denver-PTG-Heat 14:02:29 we should probably try to do some remote stuff then, since therve will not be there either 14:02:59 zaneb, agree 14:03:16 we'll see how the wifi is I guess 14:03:17 we can use zoom 14:03:54 I guess I can try to ask more resource or better wifi from foundation 14:04:03 don't know, but will figure out 14:04:53 What we can do is to concentrate all session that require discussion 14:05:04 and leave rest time for actions 14:05:36 like review, do code, or document 14:05:58 we really need to update our document 14:07:07 +1 14:07:09 ricolin: yeah, need some new contributors help us with that 14:08:05 ramishra, I don't think new contributor can understand the entire thing like you guys did 14:08:16 weizj proposed openstack/python-heatclient master: fix bug link in readme https://review.openstack.org/597538 14:08:25 but we can for sure up a ML out and call for help 14:08:44 What we need to do first is to make a list, and ask for fill up 14:09:26 like we can ask for people to update software config, autoscaling, autohealing, new template function example, etc 14:10:51 it'd be great if we had some low-hanging-fruit bugs or something that we could point new contributors to 14:10:55 ramishra, so if we use Zoom as tool, will that works for you? 14:11:08 ricolin: I think it would 14:11:08 it seems like there's a large pool of people interested in updating the docs 14:11:21 zaneb, there are! 14:12:43 ricolin: RH also has a videoconferencing tool that we could try if we have trouble with zoom 14:13:08 zaneb, actually we can use RH's videoconferencing directly:) 14:13:23 that's fine too :) 14:13:24 if the quality is better 14:13:53 since we got account to access from three peers 14:14:20 Also I'm also plan to send ML out to collect for Use case, or requirement 14:14:36 maybe send out this week 14:14:38 the quality is ordinary as with all videoconferencing tools :D 14:15:14 Okay 14:15:15 I think I used zoom once for a PTG and it was ok not sure which one 14:15:46 the one in Denver 14:15:50 previous Denver 14:16:30 And this time I got a bigger speaker, the the quality in Venue will level up too 14:18:14 Also we not gonna use Friday this time 14:18:38 so it's gonna be two day, virtual+physical conference 14:18:48 * zaneb will be in the TC sessions all day Friday anyway 14:19:34 zaneb, I probably will show up there as well 14:21:20 the rest we just have to fine the right meeting time that suitable for ramishra to join 14:22:46 * ricolin will go ask venue support for better network 14:23:42 That's all from me for PTG now 14:24:13 Any thing from you guys? 14:27:00 ricolin: nothing on PTG 14:27:18 cool 14:27:23 #topic Open discussion 14:27:34 Anything you guys like to discuss? 14:28:28 looks like we're making good progress on the zuul/python3 updates 14:29:28 zaneb, actually we been missing a part, which to convert our zuul script to the new format 14:29:29 zaneb: I updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551872/ to ignore all local files when file-container is specified other than the root template 14:30:02 I got a patch for that to give test, but never got time to go back and keep that working 14:30:22 feel free to update that patch:) 14:30:24 We can change the server side to accept the root template name, so we can skip that later too 14:31:14 May be you can check if you're ok with it whenver you've time 14:32:00 Nothing else from my side 14:32:07 ramishra: thanks, I'll try to check as soon as customers stop asking for help ;) 14:32:32 zaneb, that will never stop for sure:( 14:32:36 zaneb: yeah I know;) 14:33:15 ricolin: I know but therve will be back next week ;) 14:35:13 nice 14:36:12 Anything else you guys like to discuss? 14:36:28 ricolin: was https://review.openstack.org/#/c/563082/ the one you meant? 14:36:32 Everything is kind of urgent now a days from customers, lab env issues too;) 14:36:46 zaneb, yes 14:37:00 yeah, that would be nice at some point 14:37:07 and as you can see, it's not working yet 14:37:40 ramishra, agree, that poll a lot of my time too :( 14:39:23 if everyone could just use the latest release that'd be great 14:39:50 converting the jobs to native devstack would need quite a bit ofwork as we create some resources before the tests, though I've not looked at it yet 14:40:25 I've not seen many projects who have done that yet though 14:40:59 ramishra, I think there is not hurry for us:) 14:41:25 that would help us get rid of dependency on devstack-gate 14:41:45 oh hey, I discovered a thing 14:42:15 y'all may have know this already, but I didn't realise that if you edit your profile in storyboard you can turn on email notifications 14:43:03 I haven't actually got any yet... 14:43:22 zaneb: I've it for some time 14:43:24 but at least there's a chance of hearing about stuff happening with bugs I have reported 14:43:44 And it sends too many mails though:/ 14:43:49 I actually don't know about that before:) 14:44:07 ok good, I am just slow on the uptake then :) 14:44:33 * ricolin turning that on and see what ramishra mean about too many:) 14:45:05 zaneb, thanks for letting me know! 14:45:51 you can also set the default number of search results to 100 instead of 10 14:46:06 zaneb, that part I know:) 14:46:45 Forgot to put Stein goal to PTG 14:46:59 We need to discuss about Pre Upgrade check as well 14:47:42 #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/stein/upgrade-checkers.html 14:49:33 ramishra, btw Just got back from Vietnam Infra Day, and appears there are big telocom using Heat alot 14:50:16 like autoscaling and software config 14:50:46 s/telocom/telecom/ 14:51:34 ricolin: good to know, hope users would lead to more contributors;) 14:52:34 sorry, network went bye bye 14:53:03 ramishra, I already ask for that 14:53:49 hope they will provide some contributors 14:54:42 I mean some big OpenStack user like OVH, also use Heat 14:55:18 we have to figure out how can we do more to lead people put their effort in upstream 14:56:13 Okay, anything from you guys? 14:57:07 I'm good 14:57:25 BTW, not like you guys don't know, but just for the record, we release some heat repos 14:57:27 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/releases+branch:master+topic:release-heat 14:57:49 not sure why https://review.openstack.org/#/c/594949/ still open 14:58:09 I guess it will landed soon 14:58:24 * zaneb +1s 14:58:46 zaneb, right! I definitely need your +1 for that! 14:58:49 thanks:) 14:59:32 we discussed it already so I don't know why I didn't review it then 15:00:08 zaneb, you actually did by fined the failing reason with me:) 15:00:59 Okay, let's end the meeting now, I will try to comes up with some schedule for PTG before next week 15:01:22 also a message out for collect use case/ user requirement 15:01:52 ramishra, zaneb thank you for your time! 15:01:55 #endmeeting