15:00:18 <ricolin> #startmeeting heat
15:00:19 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Sep 20 15:00:18 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ricolin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
15:00:19 <ricolin> #topic roll call
15:00:20 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
15:00:22 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'heat'
15:00:52 <kiennt> hi o/
15:01:12 <ricolin> o/
15:01:15 <kazsh> o/
15:01:18 <zaneb> hello everyone
15:01:30 <ramishra> hi
15:01:35 <ricolin> zaneb, how's your little girl doing:)
15:01:49 <zaneb> ricolin: she's doing great, thank you!
15:02:13 <ricolin> #topic adding items to agenda
15:02:24 <ricolin> zaneb, cool!
15:02:31 <ricolin> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282017-09-20_1500_UTC.29
15:03:12 <gaborm> hello
15:03:54 <ricolin> gaborm, hi!
15:03:56 <ricolin> #topic PTG recap https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-queens-ptg
15:04:35 <ricolin> So we have some discussion cross PTG including try to make some goal for Queens
15:05:21 <ricolin> With in each topics, we set up some goal/actions to do
15:06:08 <ricolin> And put targets in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-queens-ptg-conti-for-topics
15:06:17 <ramishra> Did the separate repo for tempest plugin still in the final list of goals for queens?
15:06:57 <ricolin> yes, at least for me and therve
15:07:56 <ricolin> But please help on put more inputs in etherpads:)
15:09:06 <ramishra> ricolin: I mean I wanted to avoid it till we're forced to do it;)
15:09:44 <ricolin> ramishra, why?:)
15:10:45 <ramishra> ricolon: I'm pesonally not convinced with the benefits vs effort
15:13:14 <ramishra> it's agreed as a community goal now, so we probably have to do it anyway
15:14:17 <ricolin> ramishra, I guess we can try to make it easier as we can, like not separate functional tests out?
15:15:50 <ricolin> We can separate common lib in integration test and scenario to now plugin
15:16:12 <ramishra> ricolin: I've not thought about it in detail, but yeah keeping the tests in heat repo would be simpler I suppose
15:17:51 <ramishra> because the plugin repo would be branchless I suppose
15:18:18 <ricolin> and more light weight for others who try to use it
15:19:11 <ramishra> anyway, we can move to the next item
15:19:51 <ricolin> ramishra, cool, anyway please help to put inputs in as that's just few people
15:20:04 <ricolin> 's discussion, and we need more:)
15:20:12 <ricolin> #topic Move Meeting schedule
15:20:44 <ramishra> ricolin: I had added a topic about cloudwatch
15:21:01 <ricolin> ramishra, okay
15:21:17 <ramishra> may be we can discuss that after this
15:21:22 <ricolin> so this one is about suggest we reschedule our meeting time
15:21:30 <ricolin> ramishra, NP!:)
15:22:05 <ricolin> Maybe like two hour earlier?
15:22:24 <ramishra> yeah if that works for people in the US:)
15:22:29 <zaneb> two hours earlier would be 9am for me, so that's no problem from my perspective
15:22:53 <zaneb> although daylight savings will end on Nov 5th, and after that it will be 8am
15:23:30 <zaneb> which is earlier than I prefer but at least this isn't a video meeting ;)
15:24:01 <zaneb> do we have any other US-based regular contributors?
15:24:05 <ricolin> zaneb, or maybe one hour?
15:24:13 <ricolin> nope:)
15:24:15 <zaneb> it seems that the center of gravity has shifted East again :)
15:24:31 <ricolin> zaneb, you're alone:)LoL
15:24:50 <zaneb> 1 hr is great, 2hrs is OK
15:25:13 <kiennt> +1 one or two hours earlier, both is great with me
15:25:19 <kazsh> 1 hr should be fine, much better than the current time.
15:25:27 <kazsh> +1, from 0am Thu to 11pm Wed :)
15:25:44 <ricolin> ramishra, any idea?:)
15:26:18 <zaneb> kazsh: I admire your commitment :)
15:26:33 <ramishra> 2 hrs is better for me, but 1 is still better than now
15:26:34 * zaneb did a lot of 10pm meetings while living in Europe
15:27:08 <kazsh> zaneb: ;)
15:27:15 <ricolin> zaneb, will 1 and half better for you?:)
15:27:21 <zaneb> ricolin: let's go 2hrs earlier
15:28:11 <ricolin> Also as it's allowed right now, shall we move to use #heat for meeting?
15:28:13 <zaneb> most contributors are in asia, we should organise around y'all
15:28:18 <ricolin> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485117/
15:29:20 <zaneb> we are getting zero benefit from being in the meeting channel as long as it's #openstack-meeting-5
15:29:42 <ricolin> zaneb, let's try -2hrs and see if that works for all
15:30:23 <ricolin> zaneb, yeah, still same group of people from #heat
15:31:17 <zaneb> if we can get #openstack-meeting or #openstack-meeting-alt at that time then maybe worth it, otherwise move to #heat imho
15:31:46 <ramishra> Also we don't have much going on in #heat most of the time, so we should be ok there too;)
15:32:13 <ricolin> zaneb, question for you #openstack-meeting > #heat?
15:33:14 <zaneb> ricolin: I don't really care either way
15:33:40 <zaneb> in principle it's nice to be able to ping people who are in the meeting channel, but how often do we actually do that?
15:34:03 <ricolin> zaneb, like zero:)
15:34:12 <ricolin> So
15:34:19 <zaneb> #heat it is then ;)
15:34:32 <ricolin> We will try to move two hour and host in #heat
15:34:39 <ricolin> start from Next one
15:34:43 <ricolin> Done:)
15:35:01 <ricolin> I mean Two hour earlier
15:35:08 <ricolin> #topic Removing CloudWatch service completely
15:35:38 <ricolin> ramishra, ^^^
15:35:46 <zaneb> how is this thing still allive?
15:35:54 <ramishra> I was thinking of removing everything about cloudwatch from heat
15:35:55 <zaneb> *alive
15:36:10 <zaneb> ramishra: do it
15:36:11 <ramishra> Does anyone see/have any issues with it
15:36:15 <ramishra> ?
15:36:39 <therve> Maybe remove it from puppet/tripleo first
15:36:54 <ramishra> therve: yeah I was thinking about deployment tools
15:37:01 <ramishra> and the impact there
15:37:10 <zaneb> ramishra: iiuc it doesn't actually work with multiple heat engines does it? I can't imagine that anybody is still relying on it
15:38:04 <ramishra> zaneb: yeah no one probably uses it, but I've seen some issues when they tried to remove it from TripleO
15:38:05 <ricolin> we should send out a ML first and ask tripleO to remove it if they still using it
15:38:29 <ramishra> But those are due to what we do in heat
15:39:45 <ramishra> yeah, I'll probably start a ML thread to see if any other project see any issues
15:41:06 <ricolin> ramishra, +1 we can give others few milestones and remove it:)
15:42:29 <ramishra> ricolin: it's actually a defunct service, I am worried about deployment tools (probably there would be no impact though) and not the users of it
15:43:36 <ramishra> but yeah, we can take the full cycle to do it:)
15:44:33 <ricolin> sounds great to me:)
15:45:53 <ricolin> ramishra, move on?
15:46:03 <ramishra> ricolin: yep
15:46:06 <ricolin> #topic Open discussion
15:46:17 <ricolin> Anything else?:)
15:46:38 <kazsh> o/  for heat-dashboard
15:47:16 <kazsh> ricolin: I need your review & + 1 to move forward, pleae check  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504104/
15:47:32 <kazsh> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504166/
15:47:52 <kazsh> there are two change request to make a new project.
15:48:42 <kazsh> and Infra team will not give +2 unless PTL's + 1
15:49:28 <ricolin> so I think there still something short
15:50:13 <ricolin> kazsh, you need to import from other git repo to create this new one
15:50:42 <ricolin> kazsh, or maybe I missing something in patch
15:51:19 <gaborm> ricolin: regarding that adopt-related bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1700744) I believe I spotted the bug, wish I had time for doing a fix...
15:51:20 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1700744 in OpenStack Heat "Stack adopt does not work for nested stacks on command line" [Medium,Triaged]
15:51:56 <kazsh> ricolin: yea I will keep git logs as we discussed but beforehand just preparing a new repo by following up https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html
15:52:42 <kiennt> ricolin: Could you abandon the follow patch for me? Due to some very dumb troubles with config, I'm unable to abandon it now :(
15:52:45 <kiennt> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475364
15:53:10 <ricolin> kazsh, see here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416244/3
15:53:20 <ricolin> kiennt, sure:)
15:53:32 <kiennt> ricolin: thank you :)
15:54:23 <ricolin> gaborm, I can help to give it a test
15:54:33 <kazsh> ricolin: Thank you, that looks almost same as what I'm doing :)
15:54:39 <ricolin> gaborm, I think it's a bug too
15:54:51 <gaborm> ricolin: that would be great, thanks a lot in advance :)
15:55:24 <ricolin> kazsh, did your patch contain git repo link?
15:55:36 <kazsh> ricolin: ah gotcha
15:55:59 <kazsh> you mean.. upstream: https://github.com/xxxxx ? right ?
15:56:11 <ricolin> kazsh, yeah:)
15:56:39 <ricolin> kazsh, it needs to know where it can folk from
15:56:54 <kazsh> ricolin: very helpful, thanks a lot mate :)  will update this change tomorrow & get back to you soon!
15:57:36 <ricolin> kazsh, cool!
15:57:53 <ricolin> 3mins left
15:57:57 <ricolin> Anything else?
15:58:17 <ricolin> Anyone would like to give a Forum topic Brainstorming?:)
16:01:04 <ricolin> Okay thanks all for join meeting today, please provide your inputs to PTG etherpads and notice that we move to 13:00 UTC at #heat next time. I will make ML out
16:01:09 <ricolin> #endmeeting