08:00:21 <ramishra> #startmeeting heat
08:00:22 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Jan 11 08:00:21 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ramishra. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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08:00:26 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'heat'
08:00:28 <ramishra> #topic roll call
08:00:32 <KanagarajM> hi
08:01:18 <therve> o/
08:01:22 <ricolin> 0/
08:01:38 <skraynev> o/
08:01:43 <tiantian> o/
08:02:20 <ramishra> ok, we've some attendance today:)
08:02:43 <ramishra> #topic adding items to agenda
08:02:52 <ramishra> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282017-01-11_0800_UTC.29
08:03:32 <ramishra> I only have 2 topics.
08:03:48 <ramishra> #topic ocata-3 status
08:04:00 <ramishra> #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/ocata-3
08:04:51 <ramishra> Does not look very good, with one week left excluding this week;)
08:05:33 <therve> Yeah a good chunk of bugs
08:05:39 <ramishra> KanagarajM: what about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/os-hot-gen?
08:05:43 <KanagarajM> ramishra, i will move https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/os-hot-gen to next cycle
08:05:48 <ramishra> ok
08:06:09 <therve> I don't think we have any critical bugs though
08:06:24 <ramishra> therve: no, I've not noticed any.
08:07:14 <ramishra> I would request the owners to be realistic and move bugs/bps to next release.
08:07:28 <ramishra> Otherwise I'll do it at the end;)
08:08:24 <therve> tiantian, Are you working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1649900 ?
08:08:24 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1649900 in heat "Can't use conditions with depends_on" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to huangtianhua (huangtianhua)
08:08:27 <skraynev> ramishra: I think that it's the best option :)
08:08:29 <therve> I might try to have a go otherwise
08:08:44 <tiantian> therve, sorry, no
08:08:51 <therve> OK thanks
08:09:12 <ramishra> therve: do you know about bug 1637304
08:09:12 <openstack> bug 1637304 in heat "Zaqar queue can be inadvertently deleted" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1637304 - Assigned to Jason Dunsmore (jasondunsmore)
08:09:12 <ramishra> ?
08:09:16 <ramishra> can this be closed?
08:09:39 <therve> ramishra, Yeah I think so
08:09:49 <ramishra> therve: ok, thanks!
08:09:53 <tiantian> therve, maybe I will look into it next week:)
08:10:21 <therve> tiantian, Sure, don't hesitate to steal it back if I don't have a patch
08:11:02 <tiantian> therve, ok
08:13:05 <therve> https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1655303 is an interesting one for people that care about lbaas
08:13:05 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1655303 in heat " OS::Neutron::LBaaS::Pool is missing the loadbalancer property" [Wishlist,New]
08:13:09 <therve> It may not be super hard
08:14:06 <therve> ramishra, I haven't checked, but could we include heat-agents in the ocata-3 release?
08:14:19 <therve> I think the idea would be to follow heat release cycle if possible
08:17:49 <ramishra> sorry was disconncted.
08:18:07 <ramishra> Are we sill on the same topic?
08:18:19 <tiantian> yes :)
08:18:35 <ramishra> ok, sorry again.
08:18:45 <ramishra> should we move on?
08:19:32 <ramishra> before disconnected as I was asking about bug 1643268
08:19:32 <openstack> bug 1643268 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "test_cancel_update_server_with_port failing intermittently" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1643268
08:20:28 <ramishra> We've disabled that test for the time being, anyone willing to look at it?
08:21:14 <ramishra> ok, it seems no one:)
08:21:18 <ramishra> moving on..
08:21:25 <ramishra> #topic props data de-duplication
08:21:43 <ramishra> #link #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/109690.html
08:22:21 <ramishra> the proposal is to land these patches and postpone rolling update tag claim for the next release.
08:22:54 <ramishra> Anyone has any concerns. I did not see many respond to the ML thread.
08:23:46 <therve> Yeah not really
08:24:03 <therve> It's not great, but alternatives are worse :)
08:24:13 <ramishra> yeah, I agree.
08:24:50 <ramishra> But we need to handle similar kind of db changes in the future.
08:25:11 <skraynev> ramishra: I supose, that silence means agreement :)
08:25:44 <ramishra> skraynev: yeah, but I understood that but wanted to be doubly sure that we all agree.
08:26:05 <ramishra> ok, that's all from my side.
08:26:26 <ramishra> #topic open discussion
08:27:37 <therve> ramishra, I haven't checked, but could we include heat-agents in the ocata-3 release?
08:27:43 <therve> I think the idea would be to follow heat release cycle if possible
08:27:47 <therve> (I think you missed that)
08:28:16 <ramishra> therve: I'll check that.
08:28:27 <therve> Cool thanks
08:28:52 <ramishra> therve: on the galnce v2 thing..
08:28:58 <therve> Yep?
08:29:16 <ramishra> I don't understand the relucatance to provide copy-from with v2 api?
08:29:45 <ramishra> If that's available we don't have to go the path of not supporting it the resource.
08:30:02 <therve> I don't know about it. It doesn't look like it's there yet?
08:30:28 <ramishra> yeah, it's not there in v2. but available with v1.
08:30:55 <therve> "There used to be copy-from too (which may or may not come back)."
08:31:13 <therve> I don't want to think about it too much honestly
08:31:15 <tiantian> glance v2 supports --file and --location (disabled by default)
08:31:18 <ramishra> I understand the risk with locations. But not sure why copy-from was removed.
08:31:29 <therve> It's somewhat the same issue TBH
08:31:55 <therve> What did you think about the heat client idea?
08:32:08 <ramishra> therve: how? it's just one time thing. Making locations visible can be issue.
08:32:29 <therve> ramishra, Still that requires the backend to access some unknown data
08:32:36 <ramishra> Also location was treated as a store, but with copy-from, it copies the data from the external location to the default store.
08:33:06 <ramishra> If it's issue with glance then it's issue with heat too.
08:33:33 <tiantian> yes, agree
08:34:01 <ramishra> therve: yeah, I'm fine if we want to add it to heatclient.
08:34:52 <ramishra> We do that for templates, I think.
08:34:59 <ricolin> I think the clint sounds better place to do
08:35:33 <therve> ricolin ?
08:36:50 <ramishra> therve: s/clint/client
08:36:52 <ricolin> therve: Just agree with we add it to heatclient:)
08:36:59 <therve> OK :)
08:37:04 <ramishra> confusing:)
08:37:27 <ricolin> bad choice of words...
08:37:35 <ramishra> ok, anything else?
08:37:50 <therve> Not from me
08:38:00 <ricolin> deprecate non convergence?
08:38:28 <ramishra> ricolin: I'm not sure if we would like to do it so soon.
08:38:46 <ramishra> May be in pike?
08:39:12 <therve> We haven't made any progress on memory consumption AFAIK
08:39:23 <therve> It's a pretty important issue to look at
08:39:32 <ricolin> ok
08:40:26 <ricolin> therve: I think if tripleO's find with current improvement, we might want to start the deprecation process
08:40:42 <ricolin> ramishra: Pike sounds great
08:40:49 <therve> ricolin, Right. They are not right now.
08:42:12 <ramishra> Please spend sometime reviewing the patches in the queue.
08:42:25 <ramishra> ok, should we move back to heat?
08:42:26 <ricolin_> My network breaks...
08:42:58 <ricolin_> ramishra: going 1
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08:43:07 <ramishra> #endmeeting heat