00:00:10 <stevebaker> #startmeeting heat
00:00:10 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Jan 23 00:00:10 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is stevebaker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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00:00:14 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'heat'
00:00:31 <stevebaker> #topic rollcall
00:00:49 <jpeeler> hi
00:00:57 <zaneb> greetings
00:01:10 <liang> hi
00:01:11 <vijendar> hi
00:01:14 <kanabuchi> hello
00:01:23 <stevebaker> liang: welcome!
00:01:45 <tango> hi
00:01:52 <liang> stevebaker, hehe, finally ;)
00:02:15 <stevebaker> we need to get nanjj attending these ones too
00:03:27 <liang> will let him know next time
00:03:39 <stevebaker> #topic Review last meeting's actions
00:04:01 <randallburt> o/
00:04:28 <stevebaker> Jan 27th Heat Tempest Awesome Fun Day
00:04:39 <stevebaker> was the only action
00:05:15 <randallburt> :( I'll be on travel for the Glance summit.
00:05:25 <randallburt> was looking forward to that.
00:05:35 <SpamapS> I'm here but only for 10 minutes.
00:05:46 <stevebaker> it would be great if everyone could have a day working on tempest. I will point out that our big icehouse-2 regression would have been caught by the tests we already have, if only they ran in the gate
00:06:45 <randallburt> stevebaker:  what borked? I missed all of that.
00:07:05 <zaneb> stevebaker: is there a list of _what_ to work on in Tempest?
00:07:20 <stevebaker> randallburt: https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1271190
00:07:26 <randallburt> thanks
00:07:27 <SpamapS> stevebaker: what? we don't run our tempest tests in the gate?
00:08:15 <asalkeld> o/
00:08:59 <stevebaker> zaneb: you can work on what you like. If you've never run tempest locally then give it a go. If you wanted to write a test then it would be a good day to start it. And some of us (at least me) will be trying to get the heat-slow tests running in gate
00:09:27 <stevebaker> SpamapS: we run our tests, but not the ones which spawn VMs
00:10:03 <SpamapS> stevebaker: _curses_
00:10:16 <stevebaker> SpamapS: you can run them and see what happens by commenting "check experimental" in a gerrit review
00:10:17 <SpamapS> stevebaker: well when we have a baremetal cloud in the gate we damn well better run those ;)
00:11:32 <stevebaker> given the svelte-gate plans that have just been announced, maybe we should move the experimental gate job to be a non-voting check job on heat soon
00:11:33 <liang> stevebaker, so those spawning VMs will be ran after Jan 27th?
00:12:17 <stevebaker> liang: they will if we can debug why the test fails in the gate. It could be just timeouts due to booting virt in virt
00:13:20 <liang> stevebaker, I see
00:14:21 <stevebaker> #topic adding items to the agenda
00:14:28 <stevebaker> which is currently very short ;)
00:14:31 <stevebaker> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282014-1-23.29
00:15:40 <stevebaker> oki,
00:15:45 <stevebaker> #topic icehouse-2 release
00:16:35 <stevebaker> The wedged gate queue has meant things that should be in i-2 didn't make it, which is a shame but was the least worst option
00:16:58 <stevebaker> with the exception of the fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1271190 which we really need
00:17:20 <stevebaker> so heat will be tagged as soon as https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68135/ is in
00:17:32 <stevebaker> please keep an eye on that change and help nurse it through
00:18:08 <stevebaker> #topic Open Discussion
00:18:13 <randallburt> stevebaker:  Its not an i2, but I haven't had a chance to look more at bug 1206702 due to some family issues that cropped up, but its still on my radar for i3
00:18:25 <randallburt> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1206702
00:18:44 <stevebaker> ok, thanks
00:19:30 <stevebaker> liang: so these meetings are usually a little more involved ;) , feel free to bring things you want to discuss
00:19:34 <randallburt> seems pretty quiet for our first alt-time meeting...
00:19:56 <SpamapS> Word needs to get out
00:20:03 <SpamapS> Give it time. :)
00:20:06 <liang> stevebaker, yup
00:20:09 <stevebaker> I've updated teh wikis
00:20:44 <randallburt> and I corrected team members on their bad time conversion
00:20:55 <zaneb> lol
00:21:58 <stevebaker> so our review queue has been growing and I'm sure part of the reason is an increase in commits
00:22:43 <stevebaker> but it feels like core review rate has been quite low recently - I have no numbers to back this up
00:22:47 <SpamapS> stevebaker: check queue is also behind so I think commits sit longer while people wait for a +1 from jenkins.
00:23:01 <SpamapS> http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/heat-reviewers-30.txt
00:23:12 <zaneb> for me, part of it is that each review is taking longer
00:23:19 <SpamapS> Core team size: 11 (avg 1.8 reviews/day)
00:23:23 <zaneb> I think that's mainly because we have lots of new contributors
00:23:24 <stevebaker> also http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/heat-openreviews.html
00:23:27 <SpamapS> New patch sets in the last 30 days: 725 (24.2/day)
00:23:29 <SpamapS> ow
00:23:43 <randallburt> yikes. though that's kinda awesome.
00:23:45 <SpamapS> just barely keeping up
00:23:53 <clarkb> stevebaker: SpamapS: mikal also has numbers http://openstack.stillhq.com/reviews/reviewsummary.html?reviewers=asalkeld+clint-fewbar+jpeeler-z+sdake+shardy+steve-stevebaker+tomas-8c8+zaneb&project=__total__
00:24:06 <SpamapS> aw snap
00:24:09 <SpamapS> graphssssss
00:24:51 <stevebaker> nifty
00:25:14 <SpamapS> Queue growth in the last 30 days: 41 (1.4/day)
00:25:44 * asalkeld being a bit slack
00:25:52 <stevebaker> anyway, during i-3 there are going to be a lot of features which require good architecture review, and early in the cycle
00:25:54 <SpamapS> that tells me that core reviewers need to do 2 more reviews every day to get ahead of things
00:26:44 <asalkeld> that web site is not working for me
00:27:02 <stevebaker> talk amongst yourselves while I update that chart for current heat-core
00:27:23 <randallburt> asalkeld:  me either. blank page
00:27:35 <SpamapS> anyway, -> get kids
00:27:36 <asalkeld> yip
00:27:48 <clarkb> are you noscripting?
00:28:12 <SpamapS> but we may need to start prioritizing new-reviewer-reviewing over reviewing ... 11 is a lot.. but we've got a crazy number of patches
00:28:27 <SpamapS> noscript? People still do that?
00:28:40 <SpamapS> ;)
00:28:41 * SpamapS out
00:28:43 <stevebaker> #link http://openstack.stillhq.com/reviews/reviewsummary.html?reviewers=asalkeld+bartosz-gorski+clint-fewbar+jpeeler-z+Liang+randall-burt+sdake+shardy+steve-stevebaker+therve+zaneb&project=__total__
00:29:20 <zaneb> I win today :D
00:29:45 * stevebaker gives zaneb the propeller hat
00:30:14 <stevebaker> I don't have anything else, shall we finish up?
00:30:41 <zaneb> was there a conclusion?
00:30:46 <zaneb> everybody work harder?
00:30:49 <randallburt> do more reviews.
00:31:00 * randallburt especially :(
00:31:04 <stevebaker> the beatings will continue
00:31:36 <randallburt> are we ready for more core?
00:32:03 <stevebaker> randallburt: possibly. I'll take a look at the potentials
00:32:15 <randallburt> I might be a little biased because I work with him, but jbd has been doing lots of good work and his numbers are good.
00:32:53 <randallburt> I'm hesitant to nominate because we are on the same team and have the same folks sign our paychecks, though.
00:33:14 <stevebaker> yes, I need to do the new-reviewer-reviewing thing. He is top of the list
00:33:19 <randallburt> not sure if that matters.
00:34:27 <stevebaker> anything else?
00:34:58 <stevebaker> #endmeeting