08:04:37 #startmeeting ha 08:04:38 Meeting started Mon May 9 08:04:37 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is aspiers. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 08:04:39 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 08:04:42 The meeting name has been set to 'ha' 08:04:49 let's do a really short one so that the minutes will record info about our progress in Austin 08:05:30 samP: IIRC you were away last week? and I was away / busy with other stuff too 08:05:30 ok 08:05:37 so I guess there is not anything new to report 08:05:48 yep 08:05:53 #topic quick summary of Austin 08:06:12 ok, so I'll just summarise quickly in case anyone reads the minutes of this meeting 08:06:33 #info we had several really great meetings in Austin! 08:07:06 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-instance-ha contains results 08:07:41 we discovered 2-3 more implementations of instance HA :-/ 08:08:17 but none which were FL/OSS and could help our upstream work 08:08:42 we did talk to the Senlin team so they are aware of us and our work now 08:09:13 they have been putting an architecture together which in the future could support instance HA with fencing etc. 08:09:18 but it is not there currently 08:10:32 NTT, Red Hat, SUSE all have production implementations which need supporting 08:10:41 however we all want to converge on an upstream solution 08:10:52 #info we made a lot of progress towards building a plan which will allow convergence 08:11:22 #info plan is for a modular architecture, where pieces can be replaced with upstream solution independently 08:12:21 #info first task is to write specs for each component (details in etherpad lines 120+) 08:13:15 we already have a good idea of what to write, and who will write it 08:13:33 although I guess we might not much too much progress this week 08:13:57 since I have no free time, and NTT were on holiday last week so probably have a lot of email to catch up on :) 08:14:37 #info aspiers and ddeja presented State Of The Nation talk: http://aspiers.github.io/openstack-summit-2016-austin-compute-ha/ 08:15:04 we also met with the Mistral and Congress people, which was really cool 08:15:15 In austin, we also had a discussion with watcher team, and watcher will not provide a recovery mechanism, so there is no overlap 08:15:22 oh yeah, thanks 08:15:27 I forgot about that :) 08:15:44 Mistral team is aware of our use case, and working on the issues ddeja found 08:16:12 Congress team is aware of our use case, and also we gave them advice on how to make Congress HA 08:16:54 ddeja and I also met with the release management team, to ask about our project and the Big Tent 08:18:02 (my?) conclusion was that in order for them / cross-project team / infra team to suggest the correct approach, they need to understand our work better 08:18:08 and the specs will certainly address this 08:18:26 so I think we should get the specs written first, then talk to them again 08:18:52 hey guys 08:18:55 also we need a cross-project spec which describes the overall implementation and links to the other specs 08:18:59 hey ddeja :) 08:19:12 Hi ddeja! 08:19:13 sorry, I forget that we change from 9UTC to ( London 08:19:18 no problem :) 08:19:27 ddeja: not really a normal meeting today, we are just summarising what happened in Austin, for the record 08:19:33 ok 08:20:12 I think easiest way is to write a new cross-project spec, maybe first in an etherpad, then submit via gerrit 08:20:27 we could use the existing one as a bas 08:20:29 base 08:21:17 ddeja: you can catch up here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-05-09-08.04.log.txt 08:21:35 did I miss anything? 08:21:55 kgaillot will add a new feature to Pacemaker for us :) 08:22:20 is that the trigger notification feature? 08:22:45 yes 08:22:49 oh 08:22:49 great 08:22:55 well, depends on what you mean :) 08:22:57 http://clusterlabs.org/pipermail/users/2016-May/002873.html 08:23:34 Hi 08:24:09 hi.. moiz 08:24:30 I think that's all the highlights 08:24:39 I am busy giving training this weekkkk 08:24:42 week 08:25:09 so I doubt I will have much time for the specs until next week 08:25:32 exciting work going to start on HA :) looking forward . Catching up with the Austin summit progress uptil now 08:25:59 aspiers> we betrer have a void meeting to discuss about the remaining specs 08:26:04 voice 08:26:11 oh yes, good point 08:26:14 I forgot about that 08:26:19 aspiers: for the record - I will be actively contributing to mistral to fix problem we have found ^^ 08:26:25 ddeja: great! 08:26:44 I can setup a gotomeeting, so anyone can join to dicussion 08:26:51 samP: could you do next Wednesday? 08:27:01 2015/5/18 08:27:07 sure, let me know the time 08:27:20 this time is fine 08:27:32 i.e. 8am UTC 08:27:38 works for me 08:27:43 or I can send a mail to [openstack-dev][HA] 08:28:10 samP: yes, please do that too 08:28:16 ok great then, 2016/5/18 8am UTC for now 08:28:23 I ll send a mail to ML 08:28:24 samP: you could include a link to the minutes of this meeting 08:28:30 to give people the context 08:28:30 sure 08:28:38 great, thanks! 08:29:06 oh - I will not be able to make the Monday IRC meeting 08:29:14 shall we cancel that? 08:29:26 if we are doing a voice meeting on the Wednesday 08:29:54 I guess we can 08:30:00 ok with me 08:30:06 ok 08:30:53 I'll update the channel topic 08:31:13 #topic next meeting 08:31:37 #info meeting next Monday is cancelled in favour of a gotomeeting VoIP on Wednesday 08:31:55 #info samP will email [openstack-dev][HA] with details 08:32:10 #action samP will email [openstack-dev][HA] with details of next meeting 08:32:27 #topic AOB 08:32:33 ok, anything else? 08:32:49 BTW hi moiz :) 08:33:02 aspiers: so fast! :P 08:33:09 hello :D 08:33:24 ddeja :) 08:33:37 Monday morning => impatient ;-) 08:33:48 i don't have much updates for this meeting. will post on HA IRC later :) 08:33:56 I guess we are all ramping up after the summit 08:34:11 so there is nothing else to discuss ;) 08:34:31 jet lag is killing me ;) 08:34:34 :-( 08:34:47 my jet lag was OK, but the workload is killing me ;-) 08:34:54 lol 08:35:00 this week I have to give internal training on our new HA features (including compute HA) 08:35:29 no jet lag, just didn't sleep like 30h - It works pretty good, I can recommend that :) 08:35:39 8-o 08:35:51 Aspiers: SOC, my todo for this week :) finally 08:36:22 moiz: woohoo! \o\ \o/ /o/ 08:36:27 ddeja: yehh I tried that, till my head ended up on the keyboard 08:36:36 samP: LOL 08:36:42 moiz: I will send you some tips privately 08:36:56 that would be great :) 08:37:18 OK, so if there are no final objections, let's close the meeting? 08:37:24 moiz: I send a mail abt masakari, bit longer one 08:37:50 Yes, i will follow up on it soon 08:38:00 working on some scripts atm 08:38:15 moiz: sure, pls ask anything 08:38:55 ok then 08:39:03 will do 08:39:18 ok great 08:39:39 talk to you all next Wed 18th at 8am UTC! 08:39:42 #endmeeting