08:04:37 <aspiers> #startmeeting ha
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08:04:49 <aspiers> let's do a really short one so that the minutes will record info about our progress in Austin
08:05:30 <aspiers> samP: IIRC you were away last week? and I was away / busy with other stuff too
08:05:30 <samP> ok
08:05:37 <aspiers> so I guess there is not anything new to report
08:05:48 <samP> yep
08:05:53 <aspiers> #topic quick summary of Austin
08:06:12 <aspiers> ok, so I'll just summarise quickly in case anyone reads the minutes of this meeting
08:06:33 <aspiers> #info we had several really great meetings in Austin!
08:07:06 <aspiers> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-instance-ha contains results
08:07:41 <aspiers> we discovered 2-3 more implementations of instance HA :-/
08:08:17 <aspiers> but none which were FL/OSS and could help our upstream work
08:08:42 <aspiers> we did talk to the Senlin team so they are aware of us and our work now
08:09:13 <aspiers> they have been putting an architecture together which in the future could support instance HA with fencing etc.
08:09:18 <aspiers> but it is not there currently
08:10:32 <aspiers> NTT, Red Hat, SUSE all have production implementations which need supporting
08:10:41 <aspiers> however we all want to converge on an upstream solution
08:10:52 <aspiers> #info we made a lot of progress towards building a plan which will allow convergence
08:11:22 <aspiers> #info plan is for a modular architecture, where pieces can be replaced with upstream solution independently
08:12:21 <aspiers> #info first task is to write specs for each component (details in etherpad lines 120+)
08:13:15 <aspiers> we already have a good idea of what to write, and who will write it
08:13:33 <aspiers> although I guess we might not much too much progress this week
08:13:57 <aspiers> since I have no free time, and NTT were on holiday last week so probably have a lot of email to catch up on :)
08:14:37 <aspiers> #info aspiers and ddeja presented State Of The Nation talk: http://aspiers.github.io/openstack-summit-2016-austin-compute-ha/
08:15:04 <aspiers> we also met with the Mistral and Congress people, which was really cool
08:15:15 <samP> In austin, we also had a discussion with watcher team, and watcher will not provide a recovery mechanism, so there is no overlap
08:15:22 <aspiers> oh yeah, thanks
08:15:27 <aspiers> I forgot about that :)
08:15:44 <aspiers> Mistral team is aware of our use case, and working on the issues ddeja found
08:16:12 <aspiers> Congress team is aware of our use case, and also we gave them advice on how to make Congress HA
08:16:54 <aspiers> ddeja and I also met with the release management team, to ask about our project and the Big Tent
08:18:02 <aspiers> (my?) conclusion was that in order for them / cross-project team / infra team to suggest the correct approach, they need to understand our work better
08:18:08 <aspiers> and the specs will certainly address this
08:18:26 <aspiers> so I think we should get the specs written first, then talk to them again
08:18:52 <ddeja> hey guys
08:18:55 <aspiers> also we need a cross-project spec which describes the overall implementation and links to the other specs
08:18:59 <aspiers> hey ddeja :)
08:19:12 <samP> Hi ddeja!
08:19:13 <ddeja> sorry, I forget that we change from 9UTC to ( London
08:19:18 <aspiers> no problem :)
08:19:27 <aspiers> ddeja: not really a normal meeting today, we are just summarising what happened in Austin, for the record
08:19:33 <ddeja> ok
08:20:12 <aspiers> I think easiest way is to write a new cross-project spec, maybe first in an etherpad, then submit via gerrit
08:20:27 <aspiers> we could use the existing one as a bas
08:20:29 <aspiers> base
08:21:17 <aspiers> ddeja: you can catch up here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-05-09-08.04.log.txt
08:21:35 <aspiers> did I miss anything?
08:21:55 <aspiers> kgaillot will add a new feature to Pacemaker for us :)
08:22:20 <samP> is that the trigger notification feature?
08:22:45 <aspiers> yes
08:22:49 <aspiers> oh
08:22:49 <samP> great
08:22:55 <aspiers> well, depends on what you mean :)
08:22:57 <aspiers> http://clusterlabs.org/pipermail/users/2016-May/002873.html
08:23:34 <moiz> Hi
08:24:09 <samP> hi.. moiz
08:24:30 <aspiers> I think that's all the highlights
08:24:39 <aspiers> I am busy giving training this weekkkk
08:24:42 <aspiers> week
08:25:09 <aspiers> so I doubt I will have much time for the specs until next week
08:25:32 <moiz> exciting work going to start on HA :) looking forward . Catching up with the Austin summit progress uptil now
08:25:59 <samP> aspiers> we betrer have a void meeting to discuss about the remaining specs
08:26:04 <samP> voice
08:26:11 <aspiers> oh yes, good point
08:26:14 <aspiers> I forgot about that
08:26:19 <ddeja> aspiers: for the record - I will be actively contributing to mistral to fix problem we have found ^^
08:26:25 <aspiers> ddeja: great!
08:26:44 <samP> I can setup a gotomeeting, so anyone can join to dicussion
08:26:51 <aspiers> samP: could you do next Wednesday?
08:27:01 <aspiers> 2015/5/18
08:27:07 <samP> sure, let me know the time
08:27:20 <aspiers> this time is fine
08:27:32 <aspiers> i.e. 8am UTC
08:27:38 <ddeja> works for me
08:27:43 <samP> or I can send a mail to [openstack-dev][HA]
08:28:10 <aspiers> samP: yes, please do that too
08:28:16 <samP> ok great then, 2016/5/18 8am UTC for now
08:28:23 <samP> I ll send a mail to ML
08:28:24 <aspiers> samP: you could include a link to the minutes of this meeting
08:28:30 <aspiers> to give people the context
08:28:30 <samP> sure
08:28:38 <aspiers> great, thanks!
08:29:06 <aspiers> oh - I will not be able to make the Monday IRC meeting
08:29:14 <aspiers> shall we cancel that?
08:29:26 <aspiers> if we are doing a voice meeting on the Wednesday
08:29:54 <ddeja> I guess we can
08:30:00 <samP> ok with me
08:30:06 <aspiers> ok
08:30:53 <aspiers> I'll update the channel topic
08:31:13 <aspiers> #topic next meeting
08:31:37 <aspiers> #info meeting next Monday is cancelled in favour of a gotomeeting VoIP on Wednesday
08:31:55 <aspiers> #info samP will email [openstack-dev][HA] with details
08:32:10 <aspiers> #action samP will email [openstack-dev][HA] with details of next meeting
08:32:27 <aspiers> #topic AOB
08:32:33 <aspiers> ok, anything else?
08:32:49 <aspiers> BTW hi moiz :)
08:33:02 <ddeja> aspiers: so fast! :P
08:33:09 <moiz> hello :D
08:33:24 <aspiers> ddeja :)
08:33:37 <aspiers> Monday morning => impatient ;-)
08:33:48 <moiz> i don't have much updates for this meeting. will post on HA IRC later :)
08:33:56 <ddeja> I guess we are all ramping up after the summit
08:34:11 <ddeja> so there is nothing else to discuss ;)
08:34:31 <samP> jet lag is killing me ;)
08:34:34 <aspiers> :-(
08:34:47 <aspiers> my jet lag was OK, but the workload is killing me ;-)
08:34:54 <samP> lol
08:35:00 <aspiers> this week I have to give internal training on our new HA features (including compute HA)
08:35:29 <ddeja> no jet lag, just didn't sleep like 30h - It works pretty good, I can recommend that :)
08:35:39 <aspiers> 8-o
08:35:51 <moiz> Aspiers: SOC, my todo for this week :) finally
08:36:22 <aspiers> moiz: woohoo! \o\  \o/  /o/
08:36:27 <samP> ddeja: yehh I tried that, till my head ended up on the keyboard
08:36:36 <aspiers> samP: LOL
08:36:42 <aspiers> moiz: I will send you some tips privately
08:36:56 <moiz> that would be great :)
08:37:18 <aspiers> OK, so if there are no final objections, let's close the meeting?
08:37:24 <samP> moiz: I send a mail abt masakari, bit longer one
08:37:50 <moiz> Yes, i will follow up on it soon
08:38:00 <moiz> working on some scripts atm
08:38:15 <samP> moiz: sure, pls ask anything
08:38:55 <samP> ok then
08:39:03 <moiz> will do
08:39:18 <aspiers> ok great
08:39:39 <aspiers> talk to you all next Wed 18th at 8am UTC!
08:39:42 <aspiers> #endmeeting