14:01:51 <flaper87> #startmeeting Glance Drivers
14:01:51 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Oct 20 14:01:51 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is flaper87. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:01:54 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'glance_drivers'
14:02:05 <flaper87> nikhil: hey :D
14:02:10 <nikhil> flaper87: hey hey!
14:02:15 <nikhil> while we wait
14:02:25 <flaper87> everything ready? When are you leaving?
14:02:45 <nikhil> I wanted to share my updates. So, last week I spent a lot of time on my travel plans but had to cancel last min
14:02:51 <nikhil> so, I won't be there :/
14:02:54 <rosmaita> o/
14:03:02 <rosmaita> nikhil: bummer
14:03:04 <flaper87> nikhil: :0
14:03:07 <flaper87> nooooooooooo
14:03:14 <nikhil> hence, lack of activity
14:03:21 <flaper87> :( :( :( :(
14:03:37 <flaper87> nikhil: but but but
14:03:38 <nikhil> I will most likely be not in US for the next 2-3 weeks
14:03:40 <flaper87> :(
14:03:56 <flaper87> that's a bummer
14:03:56 <nikhil> but will be working around this TZ
14:03:57 <flaper87> :(
14:04:09 <nikhil> yeah :/
14:04:20 <flaper87> sorry to hear that, hope everything is fine
14:04:24 <nikhil> I am trying to cancel my tickets today if time permits
14:04:42 <nikhil> yes, I can share details personally
14:04:56 <nikhil> I will get to the reviews soon, mostly today and tomorrow
14:05:10 <flaper87> I'm happy to hear and help with anything I can
14:05:16 <nikhil> and will try to be for the CPL meetings the week after and the next after the summit
14:05:16 <flaper87> cool, thanks for the heads up
14:05:26 <nikhil> thank you
14:05:46 * nikhil done
14:05:52 <flaper87> okidoki :D
14:05:55 <flaper87> #topic Agenda
14:05:59 <mfedosin> o/
14:05:59 <flaper87> #link  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-drivers-meeting-agenda
14:06:04 <flaper87> as usual, our agenda is there
14:06:13 <flaper87> #topic Specs review sprint in Tokyo
14:06:24 <flaper87> I'd like to do a spec sprint review in Tokyo
14:06:42 <flaper87> I'm chasing folks down to have critical specs updated before the end of this week
14:06:52 <rosmaita> that's a good idea
14:06:56 <flaper87> That way we can spend some time discussing these specs during the meetup
14:07:11 <nikhil> awesome
14:07:13 <flaper87> redbull+internet+fruits
14:07:23 <flaper87> nikhil: I hope you'll be able to join remotely
14:07:34 <nikhil> will try
14:07:42 <flaper87> On that same line, I'll be pinging you on specific specs.
14:07:43 <nikhil> thanks for considering that flaper87
14:07:52 <nikhil> sounds good
14:07:54 <flaper87> you = you all
14:07:57 <flaper87> :D
14:08:09 <nikhil> I think I can prioritize my work around just specs for the next couple weeks
14:08:16 <flaper87> The idea is to help sharing the spec review load
14:08:19 <nikhil> so happy to help
14:08:20 <flaper87> nikhil: that'd be ideal, yes!
14:08:34 <nikhil> ++ on sharing
14:08:35 <flaper87> now that liberty is out, specs are the driver's review prio
14:08:38 <mfedosin> trusts spec will be finished this week
14:08:45 <nikhil> good to get drivers gear properly loaded
14:08:48 <flaper87> mfedosin: you better
14:08:51 <flaper87> :P
14:09:13 <flaper87> awesome, I'll share more details on the spec review sprint on the M-L
14:09:29 <flaper87> questions?
14:09:35 <flaper87> or suggestions
14:09:38 <flaper87> :D
14:09:41 <mfedosin> no questions :)
14:09:57 <flaper87> okidoki
14:09:59 <flaper87> #topic Database purge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234747/ (flaper87)
14:10:07 <flaper87> That's the only spec I have for today
14:10:24 <flaper87> nikhil: I pinged you for that one but I figured it wouldn't hurt to bring it up here
14:10:36 <flaper87> it should be quite straightforward and it seems to bring good benefits for ops
14:10:42 <flaper87> and the code is on gerrit already too
14:11:23 <rosmaita> i would've sworn that i reviewed that spec, but i guess not
14:11:29 <nikhil> awesome, I didn't notice the code but definitely have that spec on my top 2-3 backlog items
14:11:53 <flaper87> rosmaita: it was in liberty and re-proposed for mitaka
14:12:03 <nikhil> since downgrades have been removed in kilo, this should be easy
14:12:04 <rosmaita> ok, maybe i am not crazy
14:12:24 <flaper87> nikhil: mmh, downgrades removed?
14:12:29 <flaper87> you mean in other projects
14:12:35 <nikhil> yeah
14:12:38 <flaper87> ah ok
14:12:42 <flaper87> yeah
14:12:51 <nikhil> I think we are a bit behind on oslo.vo
14:13:01 <flaper87> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216782/
14:13:07 <flaper87> nikhil: we are, yes!
14:13:11 <flaper87> That's the link to the code
14:13:33 <nikhil> oh boy
14:13:38 <nikhil> it has a bsd license
14:13:42 <nikhil> BSD*
14:13:56 <nikhil> I will check, some people warned me about it
14:14:13 <flaper87> what has a bsd license ?
14:14:26 <flaper87> ah
14:14:28 <flaper87> the sqla-utils
14:14:32 <nikhil> sorry, BSD license https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216782/6/requirements.txt
14:14:38 <nikhil> yes
14:14:56 <flaper87> rosmaita: you probably reviewed the code. There's a review from you there
14:14:57 <flaper87> :D
14:15:14 <flaper87> ok, lets figure out the spec. This dependency should be mentioned there
14:15:26 <flaper87> That's all I have
14:15:30 <flaper87> #topic Open Discussion
14:16:04 <flaper87> <3 ?
14:16:07 <flaper87> :D
14:16:11 <nikhil> I wonder if there exists a licensing working group in openstack
14:16:14 <rosmaita> quick question: is a BSD licence bad? i know we like apache
14:16:17 <nikhil> anyone know?
14:16:25 <nikhil> or may be PWG?
14:16:30 <rosmaita> don't know about that
14:16:33 <flaper87> I don't think is bad. AGPL is for libraries
14:16:36 <nikhil> I am not sure, people for sure don't like GNU
14:17:00 <flaper87> if it's in requirements, it should be fine
14:17:03 <flaper87> :)
14:17:03 <nikhil> Apache is far most common
14:17:05 <rosmaita> i guess the question is does BSD allow commercial distribution
14:17:08 <flaper87> in global-requirements, that is
14:17:16 <flaper87> it does, AFAIK
14:17:17 <rosmaita> and it must, if apple is using it for os x
14:17:19 <nikhil> most likely yes
14:17:22 <nikhil> right
14:17:41 <nikhil> and old printer drivers etc iirc
14:18:01 <nikhil> if it's in global-req then it should be
14:18:07 <flaper87> yup
14:18:16 <flaper87> I think we're ok there
14:18:21 <nikhil> I will update in the next meeting so that we are all aware
14:18:30 <nikhil> some extra info ie
14:19:04 <flaper87> awesome, thanks!
14:19:08 <nikhil> I will get to this one next if it's ok:
14:19:09 <nikhil> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205632/9/specs/mitaka/approved/buffered-reader-for-swift-driver.rst
14:19:16 <nikhil> or are there more important ones?
14:19:53 <flaper87> you can take it
14:19:57 <nikhil> mostly because I know the code and can get to the code review right after (saying as I may be out of sycn for a couple weeks)
14:20:01 <flaper87> I left some comments and it has a +2 from brian
14:20:07 <nikhil> cool
14:20:38 <flaper87> nikhil: have you read/commented on Brian's spec ?
14:20:50 <flaper87> that would be a good one to get your feedback on before next week
14:21:02 <flaper87> We'll be discussing that one at the summit
14:21:04 <rosmaita> i like it
14:21:11 <nikhil> flaper87: sounds good. not on the spec but I had a whole email chain while that was being developed
14:21:36 <nikhil> disk buffering was one of my ideas (TM :P)
14:22:04 <flaper87> nikhil: hahaha
14:22:07 <flaper87> cool
14:22:58 <flaper87> just for the sake of clarity, we'll be discussing rosmaita's patch at the summit, not the disk buffering one (although I like it so far)
14:23:06 <flaper87> sorry for the confusion
14:23:11 <flaper87> ok, i don't have anything else
14:23:14 <nikhil> I see
14:23:17 <nikhil> thanks
14:23:48 <rosmaita> i'm revising the import spec now, should have the new patch uploaded in 2 hours
14:24:18 <flaper87> rosmaita: sounds great! Thanks
14:24:35 <rosmaita> i'm going to meet with stuart on thursday during glance meeting time (the meeting we are not having) to update the summit etherpad, hopefully with some key discussion points
14:24:36 <flaper87> I'll review it tomorrow and I'll add some comments to keep the discussion going
14:24:43 <rosmaita> cool
14:25:01 <flaper87> rosmaita: sounds awesome
14:25:10 <flaper87> if you guys want any feedback, please let me know
14:25:13 <flaper87> happy to help
14:25:27 <rosmaita> will shoot you an email soon as we have something to look at
14:25:34 <flaper87> great!
14:26:03 <flaper87> ok, thanks folks! Calling it 7mins earlier
14:26:15 <flaper87> have safe flights and nikhil you'll be missed
14:26:22 <flaper87> :(
14:26:24 <rosmaita> ty
14:26:25 <flaper87> #endmeeting