14:01:19 <nikhil_k> #startmeeting glance drivers
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14:01:29 <rosmaita> hi ian
14:01:56 <nikhil_k> We have a empty agenda today. Sorry about that, things have kept me busy to propose an agenda.
14:02:03 <sigmavirus24> o/
14:02:04 <sigmavirus24> hi rosmaita
14:02:15 <nikhil_k> However, I wanted to quikly prioritize specs
14:03:11 <nikhil_k> #topic Priority specs
14:03:21 <nikhil_k> sigmavirus24: can we start with yours?
14:03:43 <sigmavirus24> sure
14:03:53 <nikhil_k> Before I hit +A on anyof the specs, curious to see the developer b/w to see them through in Liberty
14:04:00 <nikhil_k> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:%22Ian+Cordasco%22+status:open+project:openstack/glance-specs,n,z
14:04:30 <nikhil_k> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149467/3/specs/liberty/migrate-replicator-to-requests.rst
14:04:32 <sigmavirus24> I'm happy to work on the code for any of those three at nights if I have to in order to get them through
14:04:44 <sigmavirus24> That one was an operator complaining before the summit
14:05:02 <nikhil_k> sigmavirus24: gotcha, and how urgent do you think they look?
14:05:03 <sigmavirus24> So I wrote a spec to do it but never started on the code, it should be a quick clean-up
14:05:21 <sigmavirus24> Well replicator was seriously affecting at least one person, so I'd say that's most urgent
14:05:43 <sigmavirus24> The image checksum configuration is needed for Brianna's because one member of the security group keeps -1'ing her spec
14:05:49 <sigmavirus24> So I'd say that's also up there importance
14:06:05 <sigmavirus24> Glance_store getting requests is least urgent to me since no one seems to care beyond some of us cores
14:06:28 <nikhil_k> :)
14:06:42 <nikhil_k> sigmavirus24: also, we can impl that outside of the freeze
14:06:48 <sigmavirus24> :D
14:07:29 <nikhil_k> sigmavirus24: thanks for sharing that info. I will bother people to look more into the configurable checksum one first and see it approved this week-ish
14:07:53 <nikhil_k> that way Brianna can have something well defined code+spec by midcycle
14:07:59 <rosmaita> i will commit to looking at the replicator and checksum specs today
14:08:24 <sigmavirus24> rosmaita: thanks!
14:08:33 <sigmavirus24> Flavio's on vacation this week fwiw
14:08:39 <nikhil_k> Do we think that #link https://review.openstack.org/192926 is more important than replicator ?
14:08:58 <sigmavirus24> nikhil_k: that probably is if only for Nova
14:09:07 <nikhil_k> He said that he may check email so I will tag something urgent if we need a +2 from him
14:09:25 <sigmavirus24> nikhil_k: yeah he was tweeting yesterday about checking email when he shouldn't
14:09:25 <sigmavirus24> =P
14:09:36 <nikhil_k> but I think most specs we are talking about are non-conflicting fwiw
14:09:49 * sigmavirus24 agrees
14:10:18 <nikhil_k> Can we mark the above 3 more important for this week?
14:11:22 <nikhil_k> #info priority specs for this week: https://review.openstack.org/191542 , https://review.openstack.org/192926 , https://review.openstack.org/149467
14:11:41 <nikhil_k> This one looks trivial:
14:11:44 <nikhil_k> #link https://review.openstack.org/179674
14:12:08 <rosmaita> sorry, just catching up ... what does 192926 need at this point?
14:12:10 <nikhil_k> I think the code is ready and has 3 +2s on it already ( CLI Support For Tag Metadata Definitions )
14:12:48 <nikhil_k> rosmaita: just a confirmation that it works , no red flags :)
14:13:45 <nikhil_k> rosmaita: I doubt if you really need to invest time in it given I will take a look and provide rackspace public cloud perspective anyways if needed
14:13:57 <rosmaita> i missed some meetings while i was away, can you give me a quick rundown on the relation between working code and spec approval?  saw some stuff in the ML
14:14:21 <nikhil_k> rosmaita: we are still workingon a good alternative to the current process
14:14:48 <nikhil_k> as it's a bit impeding atm (was the feedback from a few members)
14:14:55 <rosmaita> ok
14:15:11 <nikhil_k> I had a chat with few on what the tradeoffs were for the proposed change in the process (similar to nova)
14:15:22 <nikhil_k> and it was negative for most part
14:15:47 <nikhil_k> I am working on a better one that can be lot more friendly
14:15:50 <rosmaita> do we have a process doc or wiki?
14:16:00 <rosmaita> guess that's what you are working on
14:16:14 <nikhil_k> not yet, jcook wanted to give some feedback and I wanted to have a chat with John this week.
14:16:26 <rosmaita> let me know if you need feedback on drafts
14:16:30 <sigmavirus24> nikhil_k: I agree about 179674
14:16:53 <rosmaita> me too, lgtm
14:17:03 <nikhil_k> cool
14:17:12 <nikhil_k> I guess we can approve that one today
14:17:38 <nikhil_k> the other two important ones are #link https://review.openstack.org/187674 and #link https://review.openstack.org/194868
14:17:55 <nikhil_k> there was feedback passive feedback and interest shown
14:18:10 <rosmaita> how do we feel about grammar nits on specs that are otherwise fine?
14:18:14 <nikhil_k> s/was feedback/was/
14:19:04 <nikhil_k> rosmaita: we are welcoming grammar changes in amendments too but if they are so bad that operators can't understand head or tail of it we should block the spec
14:19:31 <rosmaita> sounds reasonable
14:19:34 <sigmavirus24> rosmaita: I agree with nikhil_k
14:19:45 <sigmavirus24> We should see if Olena still wants to do docs/specs reading for us
14:19:59 <sigmavirus24> She can submit grammar updates potentially and help with clarifying some language as necessary
14:20:16 <sigmavirus24> (Olena was working with mfedosin and ativelkov on our developer documentation last cycle)
14:20:21 <nikhil_k> that's a nice suggestion :)
14:20:29 <sigmavirus24> nikhil_k: one thing about 179674 is that it doesn't talk about the CLI
14:20:35 <sigmavirus24> Even though it's for the CLI
14:20:39 <sigmavirus24> I think  I'm missing something though
14:20:54 <sigmavirus24> Oh wait
14:21:08 <sigmavirus24> That's the spec for the pieces in Glance and glanceclient, nevermind
14:21:09 <sigmavirus24> Sorry
14:21:11 <sigmavirus24> Ignore me
14:21:17 * sigmavirus24 needs more coffee this morning
14:22:01 <nikhil_k> :)
14:22:12 <nikhil_k> One spec that we should look closely next week is #link https://review.openstack.org/191897
14:22:25 <sigmavirus24> Yeah
14:22:32 * sigmavirus24 stars that
14:23:04 <nikhil_k> I think that's a lot of code and review work for Liberty and I am hoping that we can accomplish 90% of it :)
14:23:05 <rosmaita> i think i have had less coffee than sigmavirus24
14:23:19 <rosmaita> i'm back at 179674
14:23:20 <sigmavirus24> heh
14:23:35 <rosmaita> it doesn't say what the commands will look like in CLI
14:23:56 <nikhil_k> rosmaita: I think the language isn't perfect
14:24:06 <rosmaita> but i guess that was the patch that had the huge discussion about the md-* commands?
14:24:11 <nikhil_k> he means more like adding glanceclient support
14:24:20 <nikhil_k> yeah
14:24:34 <nikhil_k> the discussion happened on the code review vs. the spec
14:25:46 <rosmaita> i'm not real clear on why the kilo spec about metedefs-tags is reproduced in this one?
14:26:15 <nikhil_k> it prolly shouldn't be the more I think about it, scope is unnecessary
14:26:34 <rosmaita> i don't think we want to encourage that, the specs are long enough as is
14:26:43 <nikhil_k> true that
14:27:08 * sigmavirus24 chuckles
14:27:13 <sigmavirus24> I'll rescind my +2 =P
14:27:36 <rosmaita> i can be the jerk who points it out on the spec
14:28:16 <nikhil_k> rosmaita: or you can point out the discussion here and avoid blame :)
14:28:34 <nikhil_k> #topic Open Discussion
14:30:00 <sigmavirus24> rosmaita: technically I'm that jerk =P
14:30:18 <sigmavirus24> (I tend to be that jerk most often)
14:30:19 <nikhil_k> See ya all around. Thanks for the meeting!
14:30:29 <nikhil_k> #endmeeting