14:04:54 <nikhil> #startmeeting glance_artifacts_sub_team
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14:05:09 <nikhil> ativelkov: mfedosin: Courtesy meeting reminder
14:05:27 <nikhil> #topic agenda
14:05:31 <nikhil> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-artifacts-sub-team-meeting-agenda
14:05:39 <kairat> ativelkov has urgent meeting today, but I have some updates from him
14:05:49 <nikhil> kairat: ah I see
14:05:53 <nikhil> Let's get started then
14:05:57 <nikhil> Let's log this
14:06:04 <nikhil> #topic updates
14:06:50 <nikhil> kairat: the floor is yours
14:07:06 <nikhil> I don't see any more updates in the queue or from me
14:07:21 <kairat> So here is 2 updates related to artifacts
14:07:43 <kairat> First, mfedosin prepared a spec about moving artifacts to separate service
14:08:02 <kairat> https://review.openstack.org/254163
14:08:02 <mfedosin> it's about deprecating v3 api :)
14:08:12 <kairat> I asked Alex to review it
14:08:22 <kairat> nikhil, it would be nice to review it
14:08:39 <mfedosin> I was writing it laying on the beach, so there may be some typos
14:08:43 <kairat> and merge if it is correct:)
14:08:44 <kairat> Heh
14:09:54 <nikhil> woohoo!
14:09:56 <kairat> Also Alex said that the spec about Glare is still in progress
14:09:58 <nikhil> awesome mfedosin
14:10:14 <nikhil> and thanks for pointing that out kairat, I will get to it today/tomorrow
14:10:26 <kairat> But he expect the draft to be ready before drivers meeting on Tuesday
14:10:41 <kairat> But
14:10:50 <nikhil> kairat: ok, can some of us get a sneak peek into that (say may be in an etherpad)?
14:11:05 <nikhil> oh, so tomorrow Dec 8th ?
14:11:23 <mfedosin> seems like that
14:11:29 <nikhil> woot!
14:11:33 <kairat> He said that it will etherpad
14:11:42 <nikhil> whatever works
14:11:43 <kairat> * will be etherpad draft
14:11:54 <mfedosin> so he won't push it on review?
14:11:56 <nikhil> good to get some momentum going on this
14:11:59 <kairat> it takes some time to prepare it properly
14:12:02 <kairat> I think yes
14:12:14 <kairat> mfedosin, ^
14:12:56 <mfedosin> it's hard to merge etherpad in glance-spec repo
14:13:01 <kairat> So you can potentially discuss this on drivers meeting
14:13:10 <kairat> mfedosin, I guess it would just a start
14:13:26 <mfedosin> okay
14:13:45 <kairat> * will be just a draft
14:14:07 <nikhil> I actually prefer etherpad
14:14:13 <nikhil> it's easier to modify it
14:14:17 <nikhil> and collaborate on it
14:14:41 <nikhil> when we go out of draft status it will become easier on review
14:14:54 <kairat> Agree
14:15:08 <kairat> I hope Alex will succeed with updates in time
14:15:14 <mfedosin> I don't mind, but I want to see anything
14:15:28 <nikhil> yes!
14:15:37 <nikhil> even if it's just a good problem statement
14:15:49 <kairat> so
14:15:55 <kairat> it was main updates from my side
14:16:03 <nikhil> actually I have some write up for that but since alex is driving this..
14:16:05 <kairat> Oh
14:16:17 <kairat> something wrong with my grammar today
14:16:25 <nikhil> np
14:16:37 <nikhil> irc can take a toll on your when you type a lot, esp updates
14:16:44 <nikhil> you*
14:17:41 <nikhil> btw, I have one
14:17:55 <nikhil> Some people were asking me about artifacts after the summit
14:18:10 <nikhil> since there isn't any official spec/bp to help them with the experimental API
14:18:20 <nikhil> I had shared a etherpad link that we have
14:18:22 <nikhil> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-v3-api
14:18:35 <nikhil> that has some good write up on artifacts
14:18:54 <mfedosin> this is really outdated
14:19:00 <nikhil> though, some things will change some we can borrow etc
14:19:00 <kairat> i heard Alex prepared some articles about artifacts
14:19:14 <kairat> mfedosin, do you know smt about this?
14:19:24 <mfedosin> an article?
14:19:28 <mfedosin> no
14:19:30 <kairat> blogs
14:19:34 <nikhil> kairat: glad you brought it up
14:19:36 <kairat> or something similar
14:19:48 <nikhil> I was saying, may be we should consolidate the timeline of this
14:20:08 <mfedosin> kairat: I heard the same thing.
14:20:28 <nikhil> like consolidate all the links (etherpads, blogs, reviews) and get some timestamping done on them to ensure we move forward
14:20:52 <nikhil> I hope we don't get a feedback again at the last minute with -1s and -2s
14:21:11 <nikhil> at least this way we can say we had something earlier and we moved forward for so and so reasons
14:21:31 <nikhil> of course this sort of a think would take a bit of time so, we can do this over the next month
14:21:34 <nikhil> what say?
14:21:38 <nikhil> thing*
14:22:08 <nikhil> no comments?
14:22:08 <kairat> nikhil, I can ask Alex about blog drafts, if he has any
14:22:23 <kairat> I am wondering how detailed we should be herre
14:22:28 <nikhil> kairat: that would be good, thanks
14:22:43 <nikhil> kairat: nothing official, just an etherpad with all the links on there
14:22:56 <nikhil> I can manage the metadata for those links
14:23:05 <nikhil> like adding description, time etc
14:23:16 <nikhil> gist (tl;dr);)
14:23:32 <nikhil> but I hope to put some context to this discussion
14:23:45 <nikhil> rather than going in a round about fashion
14:23:54 <nikhil> something import work recently discovered
14:25:13 <nikhil> so I am done here
14:25:14 <kairat> Would you like this for experimental api or Glare?
14:25:22 <jokke_> I read first pass on the spec
14:25:32 <nikhil> kairat: no, I was saying just for artifacts in general
14:25:37 <jokke_> thanks mfedosin will try to add my comments there today
14:25:53 <mfedosin> jokke_: sure! thanks
14:25:58 <nikhil> where and how it started and why it has changed etc
14:27:07 <kairat> It sounds good to me personally
14:27:18 <nikhil> cool
14:27:19 <kairat> mfedosin, what do you think?
14:27:56 <mfedosin> I don't mind
14:28:27 <nikhil> great
14:28:39 <nikhil> we've about 2 mins left
14:28:51 <nikhil> #topic open discussion
14:29:24 <nikhil> so should we plan a video session for artifacts/glare before holidays (if people are taking them)>
14:29:25 <nikhil> ?
14:29:45 <nikhil> you can think about it and we can discuss later this week or next
14:30:03 <mfedosin> I would like it
14:30:03 <kairat> nikhil, it would be good if Alex will drive this
14:30:14 <mfedosin> but I'm on vacation till next week
14:30:19 <kairat> So I would ping him also
14:30:27 <mfedosin> and my access to Internet is very limited
14:30:36 <nikhil> yeah, np
14:30:41 <nikhil> sometime after dec 16
14:30:46 <nikhil> thanks kairat
14:30:47 <mfedosin> yes
14:30:54 <nikhil> I will try to get these 2 things moving
14:31:18 <kairat> nikhil, are we going to discuss design there&
14:31:29 <kairat> Oops, we are out of time
14:31:31 <nikhil> kairat: hopefully, and anything that's necessary
14:31:46 <kairat> nikhil, ok, thanks
14:31:49 <nikhil> yeah, lets discuss (if needed) on -glance
14:31:51 <mfedosin> thanks!
14:31:54 <nikhil> Thanks all
14:31:59 <nikhil> #endmeeting