07:00:00 #startmeeting fc_sig 07:00:02 Meeting started Wed Dec 5 07:00:00 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is diablo_rojo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 07:00:03 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 07:00:05 The meeting name has been set to 'fc_sig' 07:00:19 Hello gmann mattoliverau cmurphy and tonyb :) 07:00:39 \o 07:00:46 o/ 07:01:38 How's everyone's post summit been? 07:01:46 Ready for christmas? 07:02:08 Ummm lets go with "yes" how's that? 07:02:34 Sounds similar to my level of preparation 07:02:40 my Europe trip for christmas is doubt now due to passport in Canada embassy 07:03:06 i was planing to take 2 week off but now i might end up working 07:03:31 gmann, oh no! 07:03:42 diablo_rojo: I have most gifts but there's always the oh wait Joseph as $x things under the tree and Phoebe has ${some number != x} need to rebalance 07:03:49 gmann: rats 07:04:04 gmann: tell them we vouch for you? I'm sure that will work :D 07:04:24 :). let's see but chance are less. 07:04:28 gmann, yes we definitely vouch for you 07:04:36 tonyb, you have your tree up already? 07:04:49 diablo_rojo: Yes 07:04:58 Way ahead of me. 07:05:23 diablo_rojo: we're leaving the house on boxing day (for mattoliverau's place) so we've shifted things early to compensate 07:05:35 * diablo_rojo will give mattoliverau and cmurphy another couple minutes and then we will just get started 07:05:40 tonyb, ahh makes sense 07:05:48 mattoliverau: wont be here 07:06:04 Oh? 07:06:17 diablo_rojo: He's double booked 07:06:41 tonyb, like forever or just this week? 07:06:46 diablo_rojo: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-upstream-institute/latest.log.html#t2018-12-05T05:47:09 07:06:51 just this week ^^ 07:07:19 tonyb, ha ha somehow managed to miss that. Thanks :) 07:08:10 Well, lets just get the ball rolling then. 07:08:18 diablo_rojo: yw 07:08:37 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/First_Contact_SIG#Meeting_Agenda Agenda for those curious 07:08:48 #topic New Contributor Patches 07:08:59 Anyone get their homework done? 07:09:17 i just finished 2 review 07:09:37 diablo_rojo: I wrote a script to find the ones I care about .... but didn't run it 07:09:45 other most of them are under review seems. 07:09:50 which doesn't really count :( 07:10:12 tonyb, more effort than I had time to put in this week. 07:10:15 gmann, nice! 07:10:23 Nothing to report? 07:11:06 not much, i found2 people doing trivial fixes which i am trying to engage them on real bug fixes etc 07:11:22 gmann, are they any of the ones further down on the agenda? 07:11:38 I suppose we will get there :) 07:12:26 not there. checking if they are interested to purse the contribution at good level 07:12:42 gmann, cool 07:12:46 Thanks for picking that up. 07:13:16 I'd be curious to know how that goes if you are willing to keep us posted :) 07:14:09 * tonyb too FWIW 07:14:15 sure. honestly saying all people i tried to approach almost gone for few interaction :) but we do not give up and keep trying. 07:14:46 i will update if we find good contributor from them 07:15:10 gmann, we do what we can, eventually we will suck people in :) 07:15:13 tonyb, so what was the script that you wrote? 07:16:03 diablo_rojo: Just grovels around in projects.yaml to get allthe repos goverened by the project teams I consider myself able to help with 07:16:33 Oh cool :) Was just curious. 07:16:40 and generates a) a dashboard link and b) queries for a list of new contributor patches for me to review/help 07:17:02 Pretty nifty. 07:17:14 * tonyb can tidy it up and publish it as a gist 07:17:18 Anything else here? shall we move onto homework part 2? 07:17:24 tonyb: cool. 07:17:33 nothing else from me 07:18:13 #topic Ask.o.o Homework 07:18:36 nothing from me 07:18:56 i started answer one question but same time Ask.o.o went down. it is up now. 07:19:08 so homework not done on this. 07:19:12 gmann, was it down today? 07:19:23 it is up now. 07:19:48 Up now is good. 07:19:50 for 5-6 min it was down i think. not sure about whole day 07:20:14 * diablo_rojo wasn't on it earlier today so I can't confirm or deny the timeframe 07:20:25 s/I/she 07:20:47 gmann: That often happens around 0000 UTC as that's when backups go off and they strain the I/O subsystem 07:20:55 gmann: does the timing line up? 07:21:05 TIL 07:21:27 for the record the same thing happens with gerrit 07:21:56 tonyb: it was just 1 hour before, not that time. 07:22:59 Well, I guess we should take a look now that its up again. 07:23:25 +1. writing one answer now 07:23:26 gmann: Oh I may have the backup time wrong perhaps that's 0600 UTC which would line up 07:23:40 I can give myself an action item to actually post a question or two to help seed the DB with things. 07:23:46 Who wants to answer my questions? :) 07:23:59 tonyb: then it is almost same time then :) 07:24:19 diablo_rojo: Yes you can give yourself an action item 07:24:25 diablo_rojo: in fact we all insist! 07:24:34 #action diablo_rojo will post some easy questions to answer on ask.o.o before next meeting to help seed the db 07:24:38 tonyb, done :) 07:24:49 nice :) 07:24:52 gmann: Yeah it's usually 1700 or 1600 depending on DST for me 07:24:56 \o/ 07:25:49 Anything else on this topic? Or shall we move on? 07:25:50 diablo_rojo: one for training team - https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/116202/training-labs-setup-stpy-b-cluster-gives-dots-for-over-24-hours/ 07:26:29 if you can help or find people to help on that. 07:26:58 I can poke Mark on that one tomorrow 07:27:15 thanks. 07:27:17 * tonyb backspaces over the offer to look at it 07:27:27 tonyb, you can answer too :) 07:27:42 No rules saying there can't be multiple responses 07:28:19 diablo_rojo: True 07:29:00 gmann, anything else? 07:29:15 nothing more. 07:29:20 #topic Berlin Recap 07:29:42 It was super busy. The end. 07:29:47 Just kidding. 07:29:52 LOL 07:29:56 :) 07:30:17 So we had three sessions related or tangentially related 07:30:42 The first one that happened (I think it happened first..its all a bit of a blur looking back now) was the meet and greet 07:30:53 Oh wait..maybe it was second 07:30:58 Doesn't matter. 07:31:33 The Meet and Greet was pretty sparsely attended. It was over in Hall 7 which was WAAAAAAAAAAAAY far away from everything else. 07:31:42 We had one or two new faces which was nice though 07:31:58 and we played Mariokart together on my nintendo switch was a fun bonding activity 07:32:41 That may be the highlight of the summit! 07:33:02 I know the OSA folks were jealous :) 07:33:24 Another session was the one on the contributor guide operator section 07:33:29 I think it went pretty well. 07:33:36 Much better attended than the meet and greet 07:33:48 Actually was surprised by the number of people in the room 07:34:08 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BER-Contrib-Guide-Ops Etherpad from Ops Feedback Session 07:34:24 I think I already filed all the todo's into storyboard for the contributor guide too 07:34:40 so if you have some time on your hands...please pick some things up from there :) 07:34:43 did we get any volunteer from ops side for fcs 07:34:54 What with all the idleness you both have. 07:34:59 gmann, not really. 07:35:42 When it was mentioned at the PTG in Denver, eric mccormick I think volunteered but I haven't followed up with him at all 07:35:52 I suppose I can take that action item as well 07:36:02 * diablo_rojo sighs at the continually growing list of action items 07:36:34 #action diablo_rojo to follow up on potential volunteers on ops side for FC SIG co-chair or at least involvement 07:37:33 yeah at least we need till we have good Contributor guide for ops too 07:38:51 Yeah I agree gmann 07:39:21 If we can get this a little more fleshed out maybe I can get funding to go to the Ops Midcycle and evangelize about it 07:39:31 Just a thought I can look into 07:40:13 yeah that c\an help. 07:40:16 can 07:40:24 That would be great! 07:40:36 The last session was about the contributor portal 07:40:51 and deciding how to make it a little more navigable 07:40:55 and less cluttered 07:41:00 Also pretty well attended 07:41:19 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BER-Contrib-Portal Contrib Portal Etherpad 07:41:59 Oh yeah /me got an Action item from that one 07:42:45 tonyb its got its own section of the agenda ;) 07:42:51 after we finish this recap 07:43:32 The tldr; on this topic was that most of the changes still need to be done by jamesmacarthur and his team since its not managed in a repo that we can make changes to at the moment 07:43:59 I have a meeting set up with him in like two weeks so hopefully will have an update for you all for the meeting then :) 07:44:15 Any extra questions/comments on how Berlin went? 07:44:30 Any feedack you would like me to pass along to the events team? 07:44:54 L24 seems interesting and useful to implement 07:45:09 * tonyb wants bbq so another Austin summit would be nice 07:45:46 diablo_rojo: can you pass ^^ on to the events team? 07:46:02 tonyb, I'll pass it along :) 07:46:14 \o/ 07:46:42 gmann, yeah thats something we talked about at length\ 07:47:08 * gmann missed all the fcs sessions this time 07:47:32 Yeah I dont think I saw you almost at all the whole summit, but that was the case with many people. 07:47:36 diablo_rojo: thanks for summarizing. it is good to know the key thing for me 07:47:50 gmann, no problem :) That's why we do this. 07:48:06 I also sent email summaries to the ML but was unable to locate the archive links in time 07:48:40 I think I included [first contact] on both of them though? 07:48:56 Anywho, if no one has anything else we can move on. 07:49:22 nothing from me 07:49:35 tonyb, ? 07:49:55 Yup move on 07:50:23 * tonyb assumes moving on is to the 'bot' from L28 07:50:29 #topic Sandbox Bot 07:51:03 So, tonyb has signed up to make this awesome bot that helps people through the process of getting code reviews/ pushing an amended patch 07:51:15 when their first patch is to the sandbox repo at least 07:51:22 Which sounds super awesome 07:51:30 and we could totally make use of in OUI 07:51:37 It shoudl be a fun project 07:51:59 I need to draft up a design for discussion on the list 07:52:15 I'm super excited about this. 07:52:20 and then then convince infra to create an account I can use 07:52:21 Think its going to be awesome. 07:52:21 tonyb: cool. 07:52:34 tonyb, I don't think it will be a hard sell 07:52:43 but for now I think I'll just run it from cron on my openstack machine 07:53:32 basicially it will -1 a review that meets $criteria, then +2+w the next revision of that review 07:53:39 pretty simple really 07:54:23 * tonyb think criteria shoudl be a topic or keyword in the commit message 07:54:47 tonyb, let us know if there is anything we can help with 07:54:56 Yeah that seems reasonable to me 07:55:18 diablo_rojo: Will do 07:55:32 diablo_rojo: And yup we can totally use it during OUI :) 07:55:33 Was there anything you wanted to delve into now? Or good for now? 07:55:48 I think I'm good for now 07:56:09 I think most of the hard part will be getting the right place to run it 07:56:47 Makes sense 07:56:55 Oh shoot we only have 4 min left 07:57:18 #topic Reqs for contributing organisations 07:57:21 so! 07:57:28 The first patch landed 07:57:31 and so did the follow up 07:57:42 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578676/ original patch 07:57:58 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/616411 Followup 07:58:01 I think that's phrased 'diablo_rojo went mad with power and merged it' :D 07:58:32 s/mad with power/anxious to make progress 07:58:37 same difference :) 07:58:48 Pfft I like my wording better ;P 07:59:16 If we think that is in a good enough state to present to the board I can see if we can get that on the agenda for whenever the next meeing is (assuming the agenda hasn't been set yet) 07:59:26 if not, the meeting after 08:00:11 I will also setup a meeting with Danny and Heidi our more business/sponsor facing people to walk them through it and make sure they understand/ will start including it in onboarding info for new sponsors 08:00:28 If anyone wants to be in on that meeting, let me know 08:00:36 That last part sounds like an awesome idea 08:01:10 I get those once in a while :) But I don 08:01:10 +1 08:01:18 don't remember if this one was fully mine 08:01:24 probably wasn't 08:01:50 gmann, tonyb is there anything else missing in the document or do we think its ready to present? 08:01:58 Bah, over time.. 08:02:27 i think it is good to go for their feedback 08:02:37 diablo_rojo: I think it's good but I have it open to read thought one last time ... tomorrow 08:03:25 tonyb, I can wait till tomorrow since I won't be setting up the meeting tonight anyway 08:03:46 To anyone reading the logs, let me know if you want in on the meeting, otherwise it'll be just me :) 08:04:03 And I thiiiink we should probably end the meeting at this point since we are over time 08:04:17 I'll try to pick up the pace next time., 08:04:23 Thank you both for coming! 08:04:28 yeah 08:04:35 thank for chair diablo_rojo . GN 08:04:40 It'd help if I didn't keep dropping silly comments 08:05:21 tonyb, just adds to the entertainment value for those reading the logs later 08:05:26 * diablo_rojo waves to those people 08:05:38 Have a good evening gmann and tonyb! 08:05:41 #endmeeting