03:05:02 #startmeeting DocTeamMeeting 03:05:03 Meeting started Wed Feb 5 03:05:02 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is loquacities. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 03:05:04 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 03:05:06 The meeting name has been set to 'docteammeeting' 03:05:38 #topic Action items from last meeting 03:06:13 annegentle to email Sam-I-Am for networking details on a slide for webinar 03:06:27 :) 03:06:29 Next 03:06:33 yep 03:06:40 AJaeger to create a separate CLI Reference to get input from reviewers 03:06:47 moving right along ... 03:06:56 annegentle to find out if Oxygen XML is interested in continuing to support OpenStack with donated licenses 03:07:01 and i believe i saw an email to that effect 03:07:03 and they were 03:07:10 excellent 03:07:11 kewl 03:07:23 brucer, I sent out an email earlier as well. 03:07:36 #topic January Monthly Google Hangout today at 20:00 03:07:40 did you guys attend? 03:07:42 email? who reads that... 03:07:50 yep, brucer and I did 03:07:57 good? 03:07:59 Very small group, technical problems. 03:07:59 useful? 03:08:04 oh :( 03:08:17 that's a bit sad 03:08:19 Yeah, we want to continue, but.... 03:08:31 well, it's an experiment 03:08:38 But it was nice seeing the folks who were there. 03:08:41 hopefully we can do one that works better in this tz next time 03:08:42 good to meet ppl I guess .. but 6 a.m. was early for me, even after my alartm failed and i only got online stuff working at about 1/2 past.. 03:08:57 loquacities, is tom still on holiday? 03:09:03 slong: i believe so 03:09:08 ah 03:09:15 ok, moving on ... 03:09:25 #topic Webinar in February (date tbd) to update Icehouse doc/qa/infra plans 03:09:30 i think that is still TBD 03:09:36 unless you've heard otherwise, slong? 03:09:44 no, nothing 03:10:10 ok, i assume anne will email 03:10:20 #topic Doc tools update - 0.4 release of openstack-doc-tools, 1.13.0 release of clouddocs-maven-plugin 03:10:29 yeah, that one bit me today. 03:10:38 Was trying to mvn, and test.py no longer exists. 03:10:52 oh, that's good to know 03:11:03 there's been convo on the list about it 03:11:16 Yeah, I've got to be more constant about that reading list. 03:11:19 i haven't used it yet, but it seems like a nice improvement 03:11:24 It hasn't been updated on the howto 03:11:30 Which is where I went first. 03:11:32 ah, maybe we should make that an action 03:11:48 But what improvement? Now have to install third-party tool tox? 03:12:09 oh, yuck 03:12:14 like i said, i haven't used it yet 03:12:36 Yes, was going to update as soon as I actually got it installed and running. 03:12:45 Keep getting interrupted. 03:12:55 was looking at what AJ said on the list this morning about having built pages to review 03:12:58 sorry, NB phonecall i have to take, brb 03:13:01 do you want an action item? 03:13:09 sure 03:13:11 np brucer 03:13:33 #action slong to update the howto with the new tools update 03:13:46 thanks slong 03:13:55 Or die in trying, and ask ajeager to do it. :) 03:13:58 #topic Working on Oxygen licenses 03:14:01 hehe, that works too :) 03:14:07 :) 03:14:09 i think we can keep moving 03:14:34 # topic Style Guide for config strings - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69381 03:15:02 i don't think i have anything to add there 03:15:13 Did you look at it? 03:15:18 only briefly 03:15:36 #topic Style Guide for config strings - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69381 03:15:42 heh, that's better 03:15:56 lots of reviews already. 03:16:08 yeah, although they seem positive 03:16:13 i'll take a closer look this afternoon 03:16:30 #topic next APAC docs meeting f2f in Brisbane 03:16:51 nice, heh? 03:16:51 so slong and i cooked up a plan to have the next APAC docs meeting face to face in the Red Hat Brisbane office 03:16:58 indeed :) 03:16:59 Pizza has been approved :D 03:17:02 woohoo 03:17:11 should we still run an IRC meeting? 03:17:12 :) 03:17:19 oh hi dnavale :) 03:17:21 Well, both tom and chadan are out there 03:17:25 hi loquacities 03:17:29 that's what i thought 03:17:36 ok, i'll bring my laptop :) 03:17:40 so we can giggle through it. 03:17:44 lol 03:17:45 indeed 03:18:04 ok, i think that's it for formal topics 03:18:11 #topic Open discussion 03:18:46 anyone have anything else? 03:18:48 I talked to ajaeger and matt about doing a bit of config ref restructure, and don't think I'll step on any one's toes. 03:18:54 oh awesome 03:19:01 Did editing for the red hat version, and just want to push back up. 03:19:02 i noticed nermina was around earlier today, too 03:19:11 appreciated, as always :) 03:19:12 and move some topics into the cloud admin guide if possible. 03:19:14 hello. 03:19:19 oh hi Sam-I-Am 03:19:25 yeah, keep missing her 03:19:34 Hey Sam-I-Am, you never sleep! 03:19:36 sorry i'm a bit late 03:19:37 you've got to get up early for nermina ;) 03:19:42 no prob Sam-I-Am 03:20:04 did you want to talk about your networking stuff? 03:20:18 i can provide an update 03:20:32 looks like i missed most of the meeting :/ 03:20:33 great! 03:20:40 yeah, we sped through it pretty quickly today :) 03:20:55 Did a review of the latest, Sam-I-Am, looking good. 03:21:11 i was going to try and get to some reviews today too 03:21:18 * loquacities is running out of day 03:21:26 we met up last friday after a couple of weeks of scheduling issues. nick built the blueprints and split the neutron install guide section into smaller files 03:21:52 nice 03:22:03 i got tied up in the ops guide, but hopefully that'll be done soon so i can work on the blueprints and continue testing ML2 03:22:18 yell if we can be helpful 03:22:29 i'm sorry i haven't been around much the past couple of weeks 03:22:36 sure, i can also provide links to the blueprints if you're interested 03:22:49 that'd be great 03:22:54 I saw one of them this morning when nosing around. 03:23:04 How do blueprints get reviewed? 03:23:31 i think its mostly unofficial... and at some point we'll probably file a bug 03:23:35 i'm not certain if there's a process 03:23:47 Hmm 03:23:53 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/networking-install-guide-improvements 03:23:58 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/improve-networking-cloud-admin-guide 03:24:04 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/create-networking-guide 03:24:10 thats the three 03:24:39 i was also eyeballing the training guide 03:24:57 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/understanding-networking 03:25:03 also calls for a new book. 03:25:27 the labs kind of have their own installation process, but not as well defined as the install guide imho 03:26:02 Sorry, how do you see that that's a 'labs' blueprint? 03:26:03 ALL the books! \o/ 03:26:47 slong: oh, a separate thing. nick had me look around for places that mimic the install guide and/or involve networking 03:27:29 i think there's a general thought that we should use a simple, well-defined arch for the install guide and then build on it for more advanced features 03:27:40 that seems sane 03:27:46 not sure how well it will scale, though 03:28:12 Apologies, but back to the blueprints. Am thinking that the fourth blueprint can be closed as duplicate? 03:28:31 i think i'll e-mail nick about it 03:28:46 Lorin Hochstein created the fourth earlier in the month. 03:28:51 Jan.5 03:29:14 lorin's was first 03:29:17 i dont know if he has the same plans we do 03:29:20 might be something to ask 03:29:24 yes 03:29:50 just so you guys don't end up doing double work 03:30:02 they're all very closely related 03:30:48 yup. e-mailing now. 03:31:02 cool 03:31:09 ok, we can probably wrap it up there, yeah? 03:31:38 oh, just spotted this in the minutes from last week: 03:31:50 14:58:41 One more bit of news, since we're almost at time: 03:31:50 14:58:53 Nermina has been hired by some lucky non-cloud company. 03:31:50 14:59:02 So I will be replacing her ASAP. 03:31:56 loquacities: was there any earlier topics i could be of use on? 03:31:57 BUMMER 03:32:02 yeah, sad. 03:32:05 :( 03:32:09 I mean, not about nick of course. 03:32:36 Sam-I-Am: no, we moved through things pretty quickly 03:32:39 thanks for the update :) 03:32:43 sure 03:32:52 ok, thanks everyone 03:32:53 thanks for running the mtg loquacities 03:32:56 np 03:33:01 good... morning (or something) 03:33:03 our turnout is getting better every week! 03:33:13 #endmeeting