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14:01:38 <annegentle> hi nickchase!
14:01:53 <annegentle> Here's our agenda for the meeting
14:02:04 <annegentle> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/DocTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting
14:02:09 <annegentle> first item
14:02:15 <annegentle> #topic Action items from the last meeting
14:02:34 <annegentle> Oh I think I'm going to borrow from the API Working group and add #topic and #link commands to the agenda itself next time
14:02:39 <annegentle> Ok, last meeting
14:03:15 <annegentle> that was the APAC meeting, here's the action item
14:03:23 <annegentle> asettle to book informal Brisbane meetup for 31 March, and send out invites
14:03:41 <annegentle> That doesn't affect too many of us in this timezone
14:04:01 <annegentle> from our last meeting, Andreas and I had all the action items
14:04:09 <annegentle> Done: AJaeger to update the docs driver spec at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133372/
14:04:17 <annegentle> Done: annegentle to make a call for final review in the weekly docs status update post
14:04:26 <annegentle> Done: annegentle to update .htaccess and then delete /trunk/install and /trunk/training-guides
14:04:36 <annegentle> oh wait
14:04:48 <annegentle> Done: KLevenstein to share a lightweight “how to contribute to openstack” doc
14:04:51 <annegentle> thanks KLevenstein!
14:05:07 <annegentle> so that was sort of backwards order but they're all done
14:05:18 <annegentle> any questions?
14:05:29 <annegentle> We don't have an ajaeger, darn :)
14:05:44 <annegentle> #topic Any theme bugs that would prevent releasing RST-based User Guide
14:05:47 <sicarie> Is there a link to the lightweight guide for those of us who were not here last meeting?
14:05:56 <annegentle> sicarie: sure I'll find the link
14:06:00 <sicarie> Thanks!
14:06:10 <annegentle> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/HowTo/FirstTimers
14:06:16 <annegentle> and then the one KLevenstein sent out is here:
14:06:49 <annegentle> #link https://gist.github.com/klevenstein/20ab9def5cec5146f995
14:06:57 <sicarie> Thanks annegentle
14:07:00 <annegentle> sure thing
14:07:09 <annegentle> there's not much that's truly lightweight :)
14:07:49 <nickchase> brb, network issues
14:07:51 <sicarie> Very true - bdpayne and I are looking to revise the sec-guide contribution sections, so this is awesome
14:07:56 <annegentle> Okay, I've been sending out queries to the mailing list, are there any killer bugs that would prevent us from RST
14:08:01 <annegentle> sicarie: great!
14:08:18 <annegentle> prevent us from switching to RST for the end user guide and admin user guide?
14:08:33 <annegentle> Darren asked some great questions about the HOT chapter, I think we've got that covered.
14:08:54 <annegentle> and the translation team and Daisy really came through as did Andreas with the rest of the toolchain
14:09:12 <annegentle> #info Much gratitude to Daisy, Andreas, and everyone who helped with the RST translation toolchain addition
14:10:44 <annegentle> so, I've been trying to get a decent count of "what's left to migrate"
14:10:49 <annegentle> and I've updated the wiki page
14:11:01 <annegentle> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/Migrate
14:11:07 <annegentle> Darren has been going great gangbusters
14:11:38 <annegentle> #info There are about 20 remaining files for the Admin User Guide migration
14:12:02 <annegentle> One bit of info I want to figure out today is "how many files are remaining for the end user guide to be completely migrated"
14:12:20 <annegentle> so I'll figure that out and do a ML post with "state of the migration" updates (hopefully today)
14:12:37 <annegentle> I'm out next week for spring break so I don't know how many more I'll get to myself, this is definitely a call for HELP.
14:12:51 <annegentle> #help Sign up to migrate XML to RST for the End User Guide and Admin User Guide
14:13:12 <karenb> #help
14:13:13 <annegentle> Now that the translation toolchain is looking good, we must migrate everything by April 9.
14:13:30 <annegentle> karenb: that help command goes to the meetbot for note-taking
14:13:36 <annegentle> I think you can use /help for IRC commands
14:13:48 <annegentle> it's a call for help in the notes :)
14:14:02 <annegentle> I know I've been asking people to send questions to the ML about what conventions we want for RST
14:14:11 <annegentle> such as: do we want multiple admonitions in a row?
14:14:59 <annegentle> and
14:15:00 <annegentle> Any clever solutions to console output past the 79 char limit?
14:15:18 <Sam-I-Am> we used to get scrollbars
14:15:21 <annegentle> Last night I sent Darren an example of what we did for the Ops Guide, where O'Reilly has hard limits due to the printed page
14:15:26 <Sam-I-Am> we could also use a smaller font
14:15:38 <Sam-I-Am> i think this one is bigger (or bolder) than what we used to render
14:16:11 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: oh other good news on admonitions, there's a patch in place to fix the small icon, and yes, the font is smaller.
14:16:16 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: let me show you just a sec
14:16:52 <annegentle> #link http://docs-draft.openstack.org/64/162164/6/check/gate-openstackdocstheme-docs/99e7de3//doc/build/html/
14:17:10 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: it has more "white space" which is actually colored than before
14:17:33 <annegentle> I think, back to the original topic, we need Next and Prev links before releasing
14:17:52 <annegentle> But the original bugs that were really high on my list are getting fixed by Bernd Bausch in really clever ways.
14:18:01 <annegentle> (The admonitions were a must have for me)
14:18:09 <Sam-I-Am> did the 'file a bug' icon gain meta yet?
14:18:21 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: he's working on it but stalled I believe
14:18:28 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: so nope not yet, is that a blocker?
14:18:31 <Sam-I-Am> yep
14:18:33 <Sam-I-Am> i think so
14:18:35 <annegentle> (I really want it)
14:18:48 <annegentle> I also really want the TOC to work better
14:18:50 <Sam-I-Am> turns out people at the ops meetup really like it
14:18:57 <annegentle> yeah it's super useful
14:19:05 <annegentle> ok I'd better keep getting through the topics
14:19:16 <annegentle> #topic Driver doc editors and deadlines
14:19:26 <annegentle> The announcement went to the 3rd party list last week about the driver docs
14:19:44 <annegentle> I think there's some concern about deletions but I don't think we have deletions in mind, mostly expectations setting.
14:21:20 <annegentle> #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/specs/kilo/move-driver-docs.html
14:21:38 <annegentle> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/VendorDrivers
14:22:17 <annegentle> #inf We have a decent list of storage driver contacts but need network, database, and hypervisor contacts
14:22:19 <annegentle> spread the word!
14:22:35 <annegentle> I'll add it to this week's What's Up Doc
14:22:39 <annegentle> any questions?
14:22:53 <annegentle> #topic Report from Ops Meetup
14:23:02 <annegentle> Sounds like Sam-I-Am is still there
14:23:08 <Sam-I-Am> yep
14:23:08 <annegentle> I wanted to share the list of etherpads
14:23:39 <annegentle> #link http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/openstack-mid-cycle-meetup-day-one-roundup
14:23:44 <annegentle> That's the list of etherpads
14:23:57 <annegentle> and there are two other superuser.openstack.org articles I haven't read yet, so do take a look
14:24:24 <annegentle> Anything specific to docs Sam-I-Am? I already reached out to the Security Guide lead Bryan to get his take on the security discussions
14:24:40 <Sam-I-Am> yeah, a few things
14:25:06 <Sam-I-Am> first, cinder seems to be doing it right with their devs - no docs, no approve.
14:25:13 <annegentle> great
14:25:23 <annegentle> also explains why they have editors on that driver list :)
14:25:25 <Sam-I-Am> we need to see that with more projects
14:26:03 <Sam-I-Am> learned a bit more about what people are generally doing for HA ... most of this will go to the HA guide team
14:26:14 <annegentle> great
14:26:15 <nickchase> excellent
14:26:39 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: Rabbitmq a lot of it? Seems like high problem set there
14:26:43 <Sam-I-Am> people like the networking guide... trying to get ops contributors for scenarios (either new or improvements) because they're in the trenches
14:26:53 <Sam-I-Am> everyone hates rabbitmq, but everything else is worse
14:27:07 <Sam-I-Am> no one is using distro packages... except one guy at canonical.
14:27:12 <annegentle> ayup on the "in the trenches"
14:27:15 <annegentle> oh interesting
14:27:26 <annegentle> but for that group, using their own packages makes sense
14:27:26 <Sam-I-Am> for various reasons
14:27:42 <annegentle> were you in the tags session?
14:27:46 <Sam-I-Am> yes
14:27:52 <annegentle> any takeaways?
14:27:58 <Sam-I-Am> a larger question mark
14:28:03 <annegentle> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PHL-ops-tags
14:28:12 <annegentle> those are tags for governance of projects
14:28:27 <annegentle> yeah it's tough right
14:28:27 <Sam-I-Am> lots of argument around "how do we assure version X of thing1 works with version Y of thing2"
14:28:37 <annegentle> ok
14:28:40 <Sam-I-Am> what is "maturity" (and does it metter)
14:28:40 <annegentle> so intercompat
14:28:54 <annegentle> is the etherpad a decent set of notes from it?
14:29:05 <Sam-I-Am> yeah, all of the etherpads are good stuff
14:29:08 <annegentle> cool
14:29:11 <annegentle> Okay gotta keep it moving
14:29:23 <annegentle> Thanks Sam-I-Am for going to it and representin' docs!
14:29:28 <annegentle> #topic Specialty team reports
14:29:33 <annegentle> Anyone from training here?
14:29:43 <annegentle> Want to give a report on the latest?
14:30:57 <annegentle> I'll just link to their meeting
14:30:59 <annegentle> #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-03-09-16.02.html
14:31:09 <annegentle> How about Security Guide team?
14:31:18 <sicarie> yeah
14:31:26 <annegentle> sicarie: go ahead, just a brief update will do
14:31:41 <sicarie> We have started an end-to-end review; there are three categories being targeted for review as they're "light"
14:31:50 <sicarie> compute, networking, and storage
14:31:53 <annegentle> nice
14:31:59 <annegentle> sicarie: logging doc bugs as you go?
14:32:03 <sicarie> I'm doing general structure cleanup
14:32:08 <sicarie> annegentle: of course!
14:32:11 <annegentle> sicarie: :)
14:32:15 <annegentle> You're such a model team :)
14:32:23 <sicarie> and we're targeting 'completion' of the larger projects by Liberty
14:32:34 <annegentle> awesome, so fall 2015?
14:32:38 <sicarie> yes
14:32:59 <sicarie> I think that's as general I can get without ranting :)
14:33:02 <annegentle> hee
14:33:03 <nickchase> Mom always did like you best. :)
14:33:11 <annegentle> okay, how about Networking?
14:33:20 <nickchase> We are actually making good progress...
14:33:26 <nickchase> though it's hard to see that...
14:33:27 <annegentle> nickchase: any updates? I'll dig up the link to your progress post to the ML too
14:33:29 <nickchase> with the git issues.
14:33:49 <Sam-I-Am> git issues are consuming most of my time now
14:34:01 <Sam-I-Am> and we have a new contributor who also cant figure it out
14:34:01 <nickchase> but we are trying to clean that up today.  It's a little frustrating but we just need to go through it.  I'm hoping...
14:34:11 <annegentle> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2015-February/005956.html
14:34:13 <nickchase> that as we get things settled it will smooth out.
14:34:27 <annegentle> nickchase: sounds good
14:34:42 <nickchase> thank you for reminding me I'm one meeting minutes report b3ehind. :)
14:34:59 <annegentle> nickchase: oh ha
14:35:05 <annegentle> nickchase: thanks for reminding people about the time change too
14:35:19 <nickchase> yeah, we've got a lot of that internally
14:35:24 <Sam-I-Am> nickchase: i think our meeting is still at the same time?
14:35:28 <Sam-I-Am> well, local time :)
14:35:31 <nickchase> yes
14:35:32 <annegentle> nickchase: usually you keep the same UTC time
14:35:42 <nickchase> yeah, but everyone who attends is in the US.
14:35:45 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: but it does mean different local
14:35:56 <nickchase> So we kept local time and moved UTC.
14:36:23 <annegentle> ah
14:36:24 <annegentle> ok
14:36:29 <annegentle> rebel!
14:36:30 <annegentle> :)
14:36:33 <Sam-I-Am> that's nick!
14:36:40 <Sam-I-Am> kickin butt and taking names
14:36:44 <annegentle> Okay, any other specialty teams want to report?
14:36:55 <annegentle> Install Guide has to meet still, right KLevenstein?
14:37:07 <KLevenstein> trying to schedule a meeting as we speak, actually.
14:37:15 <Sam-I-Am> time is hard :/
14:37:23 <KLevenstein> v. international team, so it’s a challenge, but as soon as something is settled on, will post to openstack-doc
14:38:06 <annegentle> yeah time zones and time changes oh my
14:38:27 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: yeah I'd like the team to work on the spec together, looks like you've got progress and KLevenstein review now too
14:38:31 <annegentle> so hopefully that keeps it moving
14:38:39 <annegentle> Same for User Guide team, time zones are tough.
14:38:48 <annegentle> any other reports?
14:38:49 <annegentle> Any questions?
14:38:55 <Sam-I-Am> ha guide?
14:39:01 <annegentle> oh yeah!
14:39:09 <annegentle> Is MattGriffin around?
14:39:31 <annegentle> did you hear anything at the ops meetup Sam-I-Am? Sounds like ha-guide will get updates?
14:39:32 <nickchase> I can talk to ha guide
14:39:34 <nickchase> if he's not here.
14:39:36 <annegentle> nickchase: cool
14:39:50 <nickchase> ha guide will get updates.  we have...
14:40:05 <nickchase> a fairly final toc which we're trying to assign writers for.
14:40:19 <nickchase> I'm hoping that we have something more solid after this week's meeting
14:40:20 <Sam-I-Am> annegentle: yeah, i have a better idea of what people are doing
14:40:29 <Sam-I-Am> so this should hopefully narrow down excess in the guide
14:40:39 <Sam-I-Am> things no one really does
14:40:50 <annegentle> nickchase: cool, when's that meeting?
14:41:04 <nickchase> tomorrow afternoon
14:41:14 <annegentle> geez I should have queued up a list of all the meeting times, I'll add those to the weekly doc update email
14:41:21 <annegentle> so we can get more specialists involved
14:41:24 <Sam-I-Am> nickchase: did it change times too? lol
14:41:25 <nickchase> Sam-I-Am I will actually miss that meeting but can you send me the notes you have so I can try and browbeat people beforehand?
14:41:41 <annegentle> hee
14:41:42 <nickchase> Sam-I-Am I don't know, actually. :)  probably
14:41:47 <nickchase> we should find out. :)
14:41:51 <Sam-I-Am> nickchase: yeah, i can put something together
14:41:56 <nickchase> thx
14:42:07 <Sam-I-Am> nickchase: send me an email :)
14:42:11 <annegentle> Okay
14:42:24 <Sam-I-Am> kind of in an everything-is-backed-up-from-travel mess
14:42:24 <annegentle> thanks all who are making the specialty teams organized, MUCH appreciated!
14:42:33 <nickchase> Sam-I-Am done
14:42:47 <annegentle> nickchase, KLevenstein, Loquacities, Everyone
14:43:01 <annegentle> #topic API docs update
14:43:17 <annegentle> I triaged all the bugs yesterday, there are probably 280 now
14:43:27 <annegentle> bunch of Compute 2.1 API docimpacts landed looks like
14:43:52 <Sam-I-Am> would be nice to get nova people to attack them
14:44:08 <annegentle> I wanted to let you all know I'm going to take a JSON Schema patch solution to the API Working Group's meeting tomorrow to figure out if it's an okay stop-gap solution for not wanting to write XSDs and to offer automation.
14:44:23 <annegentle> Oh what I did for those DocImpact was to Subscribe the original author
14:44:29 <annegentle> that way they'll be notified.
14:44:35 <Sam-I-Am> good.
14:44:38 <nickchase> great idea
14:44:52 <annegentle> it's so amazing, the backlog of reviews for api-site is unprecedented
14:45:02 <annegentle> but it also means a lot of review time :)
14:45:08 <annegentle> I'll take it though, happy to see the uptick
14:45:20 <Sam-I-Am> are there any plans to replace wadl?
14:45:21 <annegentle> I think that's it for API docs, any questions?
14:45:28 <Sam-I-Am> that came up at the ops meetup too
14:45:33 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: I will visit it in a blueprint next release for sho'
14:45:44 <Sam-I-Am> k
14:45:55 <annegentle> we have a Swagger migration path now but I've got to get the RST migration settled
14:46:04 <annegentle> all in good time
14:46:10 <annegentle> leads naturally to
14:46:16 <annegentle> #topic Doc tools update
14:46:28 <annegentle> I wanted to note how much Bernd has taken on for the Sphinx output, really love his work.
14:46:42 <annegentle> he documents all his code, and commit messages are really thorough, and his tests are easy to follow.
14:47:01 <annegentle> I'll try to do a release of openstackdocstheme this week before I go on spring break
14:47:16 <annegentle> Well I'll DEFINITELY do a release by tomorrow, how about that
14:47:22 <AJaeger> sorry, completely missed this ;(
14:47:26 <Sam-I-Am> spring break... heh.
14:47:36 <annegentle> #info annegentle to create release of openstackdocstheme tomorow
14:47:40 <annegentle> welcome AJaeger!
14:47:48 <annegentle> Just got to doc tools! Great timing :)
14:48:10 <AJaeger> ;/
14:48:14 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: yeah my spring break will consist of a staycation with two squirrelly sons :)
14:48:28 <annegentle> AJaeger: how's the translation stuff going?
14:48:53 <AJaeger> before we can build translated RST documents, we have to release openstack-doc-tools first, I send a patch for review
14:49:00 <AJaeger> But this is not time-critical!
14:49:07 <annegentle> AJaeger: okay
14:49:18 <AJaeger> First the translators need to translate and right now they cannot translate, since we're changing everything ;)
14:49:27 <annegentle> AJaeger: I mentioned earlier that I'd like all the RST ready by April 9
14:49:27 <AJaeger> I tested that it works, so we can move forward
14:49:32 <annegentle> AJaeger: ah, okay. Good to know.
14:49:36 <AJaeger> And import/export to transifex works.
14:49:52 <annegentle> woo! I sincerely hoped it would "just work"
14:50:00 <annegentle> so I'm glad we know it does
14:50:15 <AJaeger> it needed some changes - thanks to Daisy for documenting how to really do it..
14:50:18 <annegentle> thank you AJaeger for all that work (My earlier gushing gratitude is in the meeting log) :)
14:50:31 <annegentle> AJaeger: she's awesome
14:50:36 <annegentle> AJaeger: like, really really good
14:50:38 <AJaeger> ;)
14:50:45 <AJaeger> +infinity ;)
14:50:59 <annegentle> Okay let's leave lots of time for open discussion if there aren't doc tool questions
14:51:04 <annegentle> #topic Open discussion
14:51:14 <annegentle> questions?
14:52:04 <AJaeger> I'd like to do a call for core reviewers - we've slowed down with getting patches in.
14:52:17 <AJaeger> There are far too many patches that take weeks to get in ;(
14:52:33 <Sam-I-Am> because of -1s or just waiting for any reviews?
14:52:41 <annegentle> AJaeger: yes, do you think that's a side effect of migration patches? Though I am seeing it too for API docs for sure.
14:52:51 <AJaeger> Just waiting for reviews - exapmle https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158275/ from 23rd of February.
14:53:07 <AJaeger> Lots of +1s, today a +1 with a comment that I fixed directly - and no single core reviewed
14:53:11 <AJaeger> And there are more
14:53:12 <annegentle> AJaeger: looking at the 30/60/90 review lists I can certainly make suggestions
14:53:32 <nickchase> what's the list of patches waiting for review?
14:53:58 <AJaeger> There are some patches that have smooth sailing and go in quickly as usual but my feeling is that we have slowed down
14:54:02 <AJaeger> nickchase, https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/openstack-manuals,n,z
14:54:15 <annegentle> I use https://review.openstack.org/#/dashboard/?foreach=%28project%3Aopenstack%2Fopenstack-manuals+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Fapi-site+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Fdocs-specs+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Fobject-api+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Fimage-api+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Fidentity-api+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Fcompute-api+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Fvolume-api+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Fnetconn-api+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Fopera
14:54:15 <annegentle> tions-guide+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Fsecurity-doc+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Ftraining-guides+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Fopenstack-doc-tools+OR+project%3Astackforge%2Fclouddocs-maven-plugin+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Fha-guide%29+status%3Aopen+NOT+owner%3Aself+NOT+label%3AWorkflow%3C%3D-1+label%3AVerified%3E%3D1%252cjenkins+NOT+label%3ACode-Review%3C%3D-1%252cself+NOT+label%3ACode-Review%3E%3D1%252cself&title=Ops%2FUser+Do
14:54:15 <annegentle> cs+Review+Inbox&&Needs+feedback+%28Changes+older+than+5+days+that+have+not+been+reviewed+by+anyone%29=NOT+label%3ACode-Review%3C%3D2+age%3A5d&Specs=project%3Aopenstack%2Fdocs-specs+status%3Aopen&API+Docs=%28project%3Aopenstack%2Fapi-site+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Fobject-api+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Fimage-api+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Fidentity-api+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Fcompute-api+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Fvolume-ap
14:54:17 <annegentle> i+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Fnetconn-api%29+status%3Aopen&Ops%2FAdmin+Docs=%28project%3Aopenstack%2Fopenstack-manuals+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Foperations-guide+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Fsecurity-doc%29+status%3Aopen&Training=project%3Aopenstack%2Ftraining-guides&Doc+Tools=%28project%3Aopenstack%2Fopenstack-doc-tools+OR+project%3Astackforge%2Fclouddocs-maven-plugin%29+status%3Aopen&You+are+a+reviewer+%28but+haven%27t+v
14:54:19 <annegentle> oted+in+the+current+revision%29=reviewer%3Aself&Needs+final+%2B2=%28project%3Aopenstack%2Fopenstack-manuals+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Fapi-site+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Fobject-api+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Fimage-api+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Fidentity-api+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Fcompute-api+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Fvolume-api+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Fnetconn-api+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Foperations-guide+OR+project%3Aop
14:54:20 <Sam-I-Am> aaaaaaaaa
14:54:21 <annegentle> enstack%2Fsecurity-doc+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Ftraining-guides+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Fha-guide%29+label%3ACode-Review%3E%3D2+limit%3A50&Passed+Jenkins+%28with+no+negative+feedback%29=NOT+label%3ACode-Review%3E%3D2+NOT+label%3ACode-Review%3C%3D-1+limit%3A50&Wayward+Changes+%28Changes+with+no+code+review+in+the+last+two+days%29=NOT+label%3ACode-Review%3C%3D2+age%3A2d
14:54:23 <annegentle> oh lordy
14:54:25 <annegentle> sorry
14:54:26 <AJaeger> and it' not only my patches...
14:54:26 <nickchase> :)
14:54:33 <nickchase> thanks
14:54:40 <annegentle> #link http://is.gd/JAHGeA
14:54:46 <Sam-I-Am> i try to do reviews, but been stuck on a lot of other things
14:54:52 <Sam-I-Am> (like git problems)
14:55:38 <annegentle> it's a problem I've been wanting for years, so bring it on
14:56:21 <Sam-I-Am> i would like to get this in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158983/
14:56:32 <Sam-I-Am> because then i can convert the others similarly
14:56:57 <AJaeger> Sam-I-Am, I left a question on that one - you spoke about migration but where is the original? IT's not in git...
14:57:08 <Sam-I-Am> AJaeger: its in my personal git repo
14:57:14 <Sam-I-Am> AJaeger: as are the other scenarios
14:57:36 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: is Lana working on it as a template for the other scenarios?
14:57:37 <AJaeger> Sam-I-Am, everybody was looking in openstack-manuals for it. ;(
14:57:54 <AJaeger> Sam-I-Am, next time state where it comes from so that it's clear.
14:58:17 <Sam-I-Am> AJaeger: we decided to contribute technical content outside of gerrit so contributors could avoid the docs tool chain and -1 stuff.
14:58:17 <AJaeger> could you comment there, please?
14:58:40 <AJaeger> Sam-I-Am, there is content in openstack-manuals that is similar to what you contribute - so now you confuse users.
14:58:53 <AJaeger> State next time: Import from XXX of this content
14:59:07 <Sam-I-Am> AJaeger: ok i can do that
14:59:16 <AJaeger> Migration is for me the thing we do in the user-guide - a 1:1 copy of existing content in openstack-manual in XML to RST
14:59:53 <nickchase> AJaeger the problem is that it's taken too long to get things merged
14:59:55 <AJaeger> annegentle, time is out, we have to leave
15:00:06 <annegentle> AJaeger: ayup
15:00:18 <annegentle> Okay!
15:00:21 <annegentle> Thanks all for attending
15:00:24 <annegentle> #endmeeting