15:12:58 #startmeeting Distributed_virtual_router 15:12:59 Meeting started Wed Dec 4 15:12:58 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Swami. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:13:00 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:13:03 The meeting name has been set to 'distributed_virtual_router' 15:13:32 I've just replied your email 15:13:41 #topic Distributed Virtual Router East-West Discussion 15:14:09 I agree with choosing existing OVS infrastructure as our first step, to accelerate this feature 15:14:32 Robin: For East West Distributed Router we are planning to move away from the Kernel Module 15:14:52 #agreed 15:15:47 I read previous meeting minutes and logs, glad to see that we moved forward far beyond just optimizing East-West Traffic 15:16:08 Robin:Your prototype that you did for running the performance test includes the OVS infrastructure only is it right? 15:16:26 yes, that's right 15:16:43 Yes we wanted to consider both options and so we went forward investigating those options 15:16:45 we leveraging ovs, and didn't add extra ovs br 15:17:12 just 15:18:26 Swami, r u still on line? I saw a quit information 15:18:54 hi 15:19:05 Robinwang; still there, I got disconnected 15:19:08 hi 15:19:18 I saw the info :) 15:19:45 So my question was that, for the prototype that you did, do you have any WIP code that can publish 15:20:33 sure 15:21:17 the code is based on Grizzly, just a draft 15:21:27 the mechanism is very simple 15:21:29 That's ok, 15:21:43 we can go through the code and then refactor the code for the Havana 15:21:55 Also if we need to make any minor changes we can do that 15:22:41 sure, but I think we might need some non-trivial changes on it 15:23:01 however, the mechanism is the same 15:23:17 yes, that's fine, I can review the code and then we can make changes if need 15:24:24 as you pictured in spec doc, there should be a brain to store East-West routing info 15:24:39 Also can you capture your design notes in the google doc or on the Wiki page so that we can add more content to it 15:24:58 to make the POC simple, we didn't put it into l3-agent or some other places 15:25:16 Yes, right now we were thinking of extending the L3 plugin to be the brain 15:25:35 those info is maintained in ovs plugin 15:26:10 I think we should figure out where is appropriate to put those data and implementing the logic 15:26:41 Yes you are right, those are L2 parameters, but still we wanted to push it to the L3 plugin and store it 15:27:07 #agree 15:27:13 Yes, what you mentioned is also right, that we need to figure out what would be the right place to add those data. 15:28:08 so for the 4 use cases, which one will we address first 15:28:38 We are planning to address East-West first, North-South next and then the services 15:29:00 cool 15:29:03 Because as soon as we talk about the north south then we also need to include the services in it. 15:29:48 But what I am also trying to do is, design for both East-West and North-South and then if the North-South is a low hanging fruit, then implement that as well 15:30:01 for East-West, it is pretty straight forward, we just need to inject flow entry into ovs, to identify those traffic and then manipulate headers to achiieve one-hop thing 15:30:40 Yes, you are right 15:30:50 for North-South, how does it work? 15:31:41 Robin: are you asking for the services how it would work. 15:32:35 no, not the co-work between North-South routing and other services(LB/FW/VPN) 15:32:54 what I wonder is, how we process North-South traffic in DVR 15:33:22 the work flow as I mentioned for East-West above 15:33:34 Yes, I have uploaded a picture in the "North-South" google doc regarding the design of the North South 15:34:17 We were planning to add an additional "External Gateway router" to the tenant's router to do the job. The SNAT will happen on the EG 15:35:22 I found the pic 15:35:32 #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iXMAyVMf42FTahExmGdYNGOBFyeA4e74sAO3pvr_RjA/edit 15:35:55 could you explain how it works 15:38:43 This would be the same model that we are planning to use for the East west as well, but without the additional EG. We may or may not have the additional bridge, but in discussion right now. 15:41:08 I also see Edouard's review "local ARP responder" 15:41:14 When a tenant is trying to add an external gateway to the router, we will be adding or creating the EG and then the connection between the IR and EG is established with an virtual eth pair. The EG will have an internal private address space in the 169.x.x.x range. Each tenant will have an EG in the compute node 15:41:24 is this related to North-South DVR 15:42:14 Yes Edouard already has a local ARP responder on the OVS, we can utilize it or else we can also add a rule in the OVS to do the arp functionality 15:43:42 " Each tenant will have an EG in the compute node", does it mean that on each compute node, there's at least one EG? 15:44:23 Yes, you are right. 15:45:05 what about the mac of those EG? 15:45:51 Yes, it will also have a unique mac 15:48:01 since they have the same mac, when a North-South traffic comes from the outside world, how to guarantee those packet go to the correct EG on a specific compute node? 15:49:04 Robin:No I did mention that they will have unique mac and unique floating IP on the compute node 15:49:32 sorry :) 15:49:57 I mis-understood it 15:50:38 with unique mac and FIP, it should work well 15:50:46 ok, I will add more details to that doc 15:51:46 also I am refining the plugin and agent architecture and once it is solid I will update the doc, meanwhile for this week, can you push the code that you have done on the "OVS plugin", I need to take a look at it or else update your doc or wiki with the required information 15:52:25 OK 15:53:05 #action Swami will update the North South doc with more details on the plugin/agent architecture 15:53:31 #action Robin will push the WIP code for review by the subteam 15:54:04 Robin does this timeslot works good for you 15:54:17 yes 15:54:58 ok, then if you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to send me an email and we can discuss those items in the IRC meeting. 15:55:14 Sure :) 15:55:38 once you upload the wip code send me an email, and I can go and review it 15:56:39 ok, thanks for attending the meeting. We will meet next week. 15:56:45 OK, doc may come faster than refining and merging code :) 15:56:47 any other questions 15:56:56 See you 15:57:05 Yes, we can do it together so don't worry we can speed up the process 15:57:26 ok, bye 15:57:29 #endmeeting