14:00:30 #startmeeting cinder 14:00:30 Meeting started Wed Nov 22 14:00:30 2023 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is whoami-rajat. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:30 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00:30 The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' 14:00:32 #topic roll call 14:00:39 hello 14:00:44 o/ 14:00:45 o/ 14:00:54 Hi 14:01:07 o/ 14:01:30 o/ 14:03:13 hello 14:03:23 I don't see the usual people around today 14:03:25 o/ 14:03:28 any major holiday? 14:03:45 hey Brian 14:03:53 big USA holiday tomorrow and friday 14:03:54 o/ 14:03:54 thanksgiving? 14:03:56 certainly because of thanksgiving tomorrow 14:03:58 It's Thanksgiving tomorrow 14:04:11 oh, makes sense 14:04:14 lots of Americans take this whole week off 14:04:34 Happy Thanksgiving (in advance) to everyone! 14:04:34 slackers 14:04:42 so true 14:04:51 #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-caracal-meetings 14:04:56 Happy Thanksgiving to All 14:05:18 we have a small agenda today 14:05:20 let's get started 14:05:23 #topic announcements 14:05:30 first, Midcycle-1 14:05:36 #link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/AHJSLP4QDTT7B4GYMERBJXOUNTXMXCKV/ 14:05:57 Date: 6th December, 2023 14:05:57 Time: 1400-1600 UTC 14:06:07 so please add your topics to the etherpad 14:06:09 #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-caracal-midcycles 14:07:00 L#48 currently 14:07:07 sorry L#40 14:07:51 it's in 2 weeks and the reason for keeping this early is because people will be going on year end break later on 14:08:10 next, Upcoming Deadlines 14:08:12 Caracal-2, on January 11, 2024 14:08:20 we have milestone 2 next year in Jan 14:08:33 which will be the driver merge deadline 14:08:57 so if you are planning to propose any new volume or target driver, please make sure the code, tests and CI is ready before M-2 14:09:57 anything else for announcements? I couldn't find anything major on the ML 14:11:35 okay, looks like that's all 14:11:38 it's been a quiet week 14:11:43 let's go to topics 14:11:49 yes 14:12:02 #topic Spec reviews 14:12:07 Spec freeze: 22nd December 14:12:12 #link https://releases.openstack.org/caracal/schedule.html#c-cinder-spec-freeze 14:12:37 the spec freeze is kept earlier than M-2 since it will conflict with driver merge deadline 14:13:06 let's take a look at the specs one by one 14:13:14 1. New Quota System 14:13:22 #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder-specs/+/898998 14:13:32 I've updated the spec based on our PTG discussion 14:13:56 to replace Counters and Couting with StoredQuotaDriver and DynamicQuotaDriver 14:14:00 and some other minor nit fixes 14:14:14 it's more of less the same spec as merged in Zed 14:15:01 so yeah, need some reviewer eyes on it 14:15:10 2. Encrypted Backups 14:15:16 #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder-specs/+/862601 14:15:34 I think someone at the PTG showed interest in working on this 14:15:42 but maybe it could be a different spec 14:15:51 anyways, it has pending review comments that needs to be addressed 14:16:07 also needs to be reproposed to 2024.1 dir (currently proposed for 2023.1) 14:16:56 i see a comment from Jon where he says he is willing to work on it 14:17:21 but it was in July 14:17:24 I'm not sure anymore 14:17:50 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/netapp-space-allocation-support 14:17:56 anyways, if anyone is planning to work on it, please do the things states above ^ 14:18:11 3. Sizing capacity rounded volumes 14:18:27 #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder-specs/+/872019 14:18:54 not sure if it's worth the amount of work. I think that PowerFlex is the only storage system which causes this problem 14:19:17 If there is a big ask, I can shuffle and work on it 14:19:23 okay, so is that not a priority anymore? 14:19:25 YEs - I though Xing had fixed this years ago 14:20:17 happystacker, sounds good, should i abandon the current proposal and you can restore if needed? 14:20:17 I'll get some insights internally. do we have any other vendor interested in such a feature? 14:20:50 In any case, I don't think we'll have the appropriate bandwidth for this cycle 14:20:54 i think this is definatley an issue specific to PowerFlex 14:21:11 yes that's my understanding too 14:21:12 all those 8GB boundaries 14:21:41 So we can abandon it, and resurrect if we get more ask on this 14:22:06 great, thanks for the update 14:23:34 4. Spec to introduce additional task status field 14:23:43 #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder-specs/+/818551 14:24:24 i think we abandoned this idea and went ahead with this? https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder-specs/+/868761 14:24:53 so that was merged in 2023.2 but i don't think any work was done against it 14:27:03 okay, I've abandoned the task status field spec 14:27:23 if anyone is planning to work on the backup status field this cycle, please re propose the spec for 2024.1 14:28:29 I don't think any other spec was proposed recently for 2024.1 cycle 14:29:06 that's all I had for this topic 14:30:07 okay, moving on to the next topic 14:30:11 #topic Send email to ML regarding increasing size of volume image metadata values 14:30:16 #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/868485 14:30:19 drencrom, that's you 14:31:19 drencrom: i am obviously having trouble getting this email together, maybe we can collaborate on an etherpad 14:31:46 sure, no problem 14:32:23 https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-glance-nova-image-metadata-value-length 14:33:37 Thats it for me, you can continue with the next topic 14:34:50 great, thanks 14:35:04 there are no more topics for today 14:35:08 there is one review request 14:35:17 Add cinder active-active support for Dell PowerMax driver 14:35:21 #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/881549 14:35:34 this is a small one 14:35:41 it has some failover logic to support A/A with the powermax driver 14:35:59 we have powerflex A/A support also coming in 14:36:10 Let us know 14:36:15 great, good to have more drivers supporting it 14:36:28 so reviewers, please take a look at the patch 14:36:33 we have powermax and powerflex for this cycle 14:36:48 powerstore will be the next one for next D cycle I guess 14:37:00 thank you team 14:37:07 ok, good to know, thanks 14:37:21 let's move to open discussion 14:37:25 #topic open discussion 14:37:59 When are we going to propose the increase of Zuul swap to 8 GB? I don't see a review pertaining to that. 14:38:59 i think rosmaita was on to it 14:39:09 i have been also seeing quite a lot failures on the sqlalchemy2.0 patches 14:39:35 there's a patch up 14:40:00 #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder-tempest-plugin/+/901672 14:40:41 i still need to check if any of the jobs defined in cinder's zuul.yaml need that change also 14:41:38 Do we have any news wrt the next Open Infra summit location? 14:41:52 and how Dell can participate? 14:42:03 thanks rosmaita for the update 14:42:33 haven't seen anything on the ML yet regarding upcoming summit 14:43:18 ok, I know that we had details on december last year 14:45:03 Kendall is a good contact person but i think the details are just not out yet 14:45:25 happystacker: you could email her directly and ask if she knows what the timeframe is 14:45:25 yeah, I'll remain patient for now ;-) 14:45:48 yes sure, thks rosmalta 14:46:06 she used to work on cinder, so you have something in common 14:46:38 Kendall Nelson right? 14:47:37 yes correct 14:47:58 ok cool, that's the only Kendall I know of anyway. lol 14:50:41 i think that's all we had for open discussion 14:50:48 make sure to revive/review the specs 14:50:51 add topics for the midcycle 14:50:56 and take a look at the review requests 14:51:04 thanks everyone 14:51:08 and happy thanksgiving! 14:51:13 thanks! 14:51:14 thank you. and happy thanksgiving ! 14:51:22 #endmeeting