14:00:30 <whoami-rajat> #startmeeting cinder
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14:00:32 <whoami-rajat> #topic roll call
14:00:39 <happystacker> hello
14:00:44 <Saikumar> o/
14:00:45 <toheeb> o/
14:00:54 <msaravan> Hi
14:01:07 <jayaanand> o/
14:01:30 <simondodsley> o/
14:03:13 <whoami-rajat> hello
14:03:23 <whoami-rajat> I don't see the usual people around today
14:03:25 <rosmaita> o/
14:03:28 <whoami-rajat> any major holiday?
14:03:45 <whoami-rajat> hey Brian
14:03:53 <rosmaita> big USA holiday tomorrow and friday
14:03:54 <tosky> o/
14:03:54 <drencrom> thanksgiving?
14:03:56 <happystacker> certainly because of thanksgiving tomorrow
14:03:58 <simondodsley> It's Thanksgiving tomorrow
14:04:11 <whoami-rajat> oh, makes sense
14:04:14 <simondodsley> lots of Americans take this whole week off
14:04:34 <whoami-rajat> Happy Thanksgiving (in advance) to everyone!
14:04:34 <rosmaita> slackers
14:04:42 <simondodsley> so true
14:04:51 <whoami-rajat> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-caracal-meetings
14:04:56 <jayaanand> Happy Thanksgiving to All
14:05:18 <whoami-rajat> we have a small agenda today
14:05:20 <whoami-rajat> let's get started
14:05:23 <whoami-rajat> #topic announcements
14:05:30 <whoami-rajat> first, Midcycle-1
14:05:36 <whoami-rajat> #link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/AHJSLP4QDTT7B4GYMERBJXOUNTXMXCKV/
14:05:57 <whoami-rajat> Date: 6th December, 2023
14:05:57 <whoami-rajat> Time: 1400-1600 UTC
14:06:07 <whoami-rajat> so please add your topics to the etherpad
14:06:09 <whoami-rajat> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-caracal-midcycles
14:07:00 <whoami-rajat> L#48 currently
14:07:07 <whoami-rajat> sorry L#40
14:07:51 <whoami-rajat> it's in 2 weeks and the reason for keeping this early is because people will be going on year end break later on
14:08:10 <whoami-rajat> next, Upcoming Deadlines
14:08:12 <whoami-rajat> Caracal-2, on January 11, 2024
14:08:20 <whoami-rajat> we have milestone 2 next year in Jan
14:08:33 <whoami-rajat> which will be the driver merge deadline
14:08:57 <whoami-rajat> so if you are planning to propose any new volume or target driver, please make sure the code, tests and CI is ready before M-2
14:09:57 <whoami-rajat> anything else for announcements? I couldn't find anything major on the ML
14:11:35 <whoami-rajat> okay, looks like that's all
14:11:38 <rosmaita> it's been a quiet week
14:11:43 <whoami-rajat> let's go to topics
14:11:49 <whoami-rajat> yes
14:12:02 <whoami-rajat> #topic Spec reviews
14:12:07 <whoami-rajat> Spec freeze: 22nd December
14:12:12 <whoami-rajat> #link https://releases.openstack.org/caracal/schedule.html#c-cinder-spec-freeze
14:12:37 <whoami-rajat> the spec freeze is kept earlier than M-2 since it will conflict with driver merge deadline
14:13:06 <whoami-rajat> let's take a look at the specs one by one
14:13:14 <whoami-rajat> 1. New Quota System
14:13:22 <whoami-rajat> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder-specs/+/898998
14:13:32 <whoami-rajat> I've updated the spec based on our PTG discussion
14:13:56 <whoami-rajat> to replace Counters and Couting with StoredQuotaDriver and DynamicQuotaDriver
14:14:00 <whoami-rajat> and some other minor nit fixes
14:14:14 <whoami-rajat> it's more of less the same spec as merged in Zed
14:15:01 <whoami-rajat> so yeah, need some reviewer eyes on it
14:15:10 <whoami-rajat> 2. Encrypted Backups
14:15:16 <whoami-rajat> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder-specs/+/862601
14:15:34 <whoami-rajat> I think someone at the PTG showed interest in working on this
14:15:42 <whoami-rajat> but maybe it could be a different spec
14:15:51 <whoami-rajat> anyways, it has pending review comments that needs to be addressed
14:16:07 <whoami-rajat> also needs to be reproposed to 2024.1 dir (currently proposed for 2023.1)
14:16:56 <whoami-rajat> i see a comment from Jon where he says he is willing to work on it
14:17:21 <whoami-rajat> but it was in July
14:17:24 <whoami-rajat> I'm not sure anymore
14:17:50 <jayaanand> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/netapp-space-allocation-support
14:17:56 <whoami-rajat> anyways, if anyone is planning to work on it, please do the things states above ^
14:18:11 <whoami-rajat> 3. Sizing capacity rounded volumes
14:18:27 <whoami-rajat> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder-specs/+/872019
14:18:54 <happystacker> not sure if it's worth the amount of work. I think that PowerFlex is the only storage system which causes this problem
14:19:17 <happystacker> If there is a big ask, I can shuffle and work on it
14:19:23 <whoami-rajat> okay, so is that not a priority anymore?
14:19:25 <simondodsley> YEs - I though Xing had fixed this years ago
14:20:17 <whoami-rajat> happystacker, sounds good, should i abandon the current proposal and you can restore if needed?
14:20:17 <happystacker> I'll get some insights internally. do we have any other vendor interested in such a feature?
14:20:50 <happystacker> In any case, I don't think we'll have the appropriate bandwidth for this cycle
14:20:54 <simondodsley> i think this is definatley an issue specific to PowerFlex
14:21:11 <happystacker> yes that's my understanding too
14:21:12 <simondodsley> all those 8GB boundaries
14:21:41 <happystacker> So we can abandon it, and resurrect if we get more ask on this
14:22:06 <whoami-rajat> great, thanks for the update
14:23:34 <whoami-rajat> 4. Spec to introduce additional task status field
14:23:43 <whoami-rajat> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder-specs/+/818551
14:24:24 <whoami-rajat> i think we abandoned this idea and went ahead with this? https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder-specs/+/868761
14:24:53 <whoami-rajat> so that was merged in 2023.2 but i don't think any work was done against it
14:27:03 <whoami-rajat> okay, I've abandoned the task status field spec
14:27:23 <whoami-rajat> if anyone is planning to work on the backup status field this cycle, please re propose the spec for 2024.1
14:28:29 <whoami-rajat> I don't think any other spec was proposed recently for 2024.1 cycle
14:29:06 <whoami-rajat> that's all I had for this topic
14:30:07 <whoami-rajat> okay, moving on to the next topic
14:30:11 <whoami-rajat> #topic Send email to ML regarding increasing size of volume image metadata values
14:30:16 <whoami-rajat> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/868485
14:30:19 <whoami-rajat> drencrom, that's you
14:31:19 <rosmaita> drencrom: i am obviously having trouble getting this email together, maybe we can collaborate on an etherpad
14:31:46 <drencrom> sure, no problem
14:32:23 <rosmaita> https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-glance-nova-image-metadata-value-length
14:33:37 <drencrom> Thats it for me, you can continue with the next topic
14:34:50 <whoami-rajat> great, thanks
14:35:04 <whoami-rajat> there are no more topics for today
14:35:08 <whoami-rajat> there is one review request
14:35:17 <whoami-rajat> Add cinder active-active support for Dell PowerMax driver
14:35:21 <whoami-rajat> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/881549
14:35:34 <happystacker> this is a small one
14:35:41 <whoami-rajat> it has some failover logic to support A/A with the powermax driver
14:35:59 <happystacker> we have powerflex A/A support also coming in
14:36:10 <happystacker> Let us know
14:36:15 <whoami-rajat> great, good to have more drivers supporting it
14:36:28 <whoami-rajat> so reviewers, please take a look at the patch
14:36:33 <happystacker> we have powermax and powerflex for this cycle
14:36:48 <happystacker> powerstore will be the next one for next D cycle I guess
14:37:00 <happystacker> thank you team
14:37:07 <whoami-rajat> ok, good to know, thanks
14:37:21 <whoami-rajat> let's move to open discussion
14:37:25 <whoami-rajat> #topic open discussion
14:37:59 <zaitcev> When are we going to propose the increase of Zuul swap to 8 GB? I don't see a review pertaining to that.
14:38:59 <whoami-rajat> i think rosmaita was on to it
14:39:09 <whoami-rajat> i have been also seeing quite a lot failures on the sqlalchemy2.0 patches
14:39:35 <rosmaita> there's a patch up
14:40:00 <rosmaita> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder-tempest-plugin/+/901672
14:40:41 <rosmaita> i still need to check if any of the jobs defined in cinder's zuul.yaml need that change also
14:41:38 <happystacker> Do we have any news wrt the next Open Infra summit location?
14:41:52 <happystacker> and how Dell can participate?
14:42:03 <whoami-rajat> thanks rosmaita for the update
14:42:33 <whoami-rajat> haven't seen anything on the ML yet regarding upcoming summit
14:43:18 <happystacker> ok, I know that we had details on december last year
14:45:03 <whoami-rajat> Kendall is a good contact person but i think the details are just not out yet
14:45:25 <rosmaita> happystacker: you could email her directly and ask if she knows what the timeframe is
14:45:25 <happystacker> yeah, I'll remain patient for now ;-)
14:45:48 <happystacker> yes sure, thks rosmalta
14:46:06 <rosmaita> she used to work on cinder, so you have something in common
14:46:38 <happystacker> Kendall Nelson right?
14:47:37 <whoami-rajat> yes correct
14:47:58 <happystacker> ok cool, that's the only Kendall I know of anyway. lol
14:50:41 <whoami-rajat> i think that's all we had for open discussion
14:50:48 <whoami-rajat> make sure to revive/review the specs
14:50:51 <whoami-rajat> add topics for the midcycle
14:50:56 <whoami-rajat> and take a look at the review requests
14:51:04 <whoami-rajat> thanks everyone
14:51:08 <whoami-rajat> and happy thanksgiving!
14:51:13 <rosmaita> thanks!
14:51:14 <happystacker> thank you. and happy thanksgiving !
14:51:22 <whoami-rajat> #endmeeting