14:00:04 <whoami-rajat> #startmeeting cinder
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14:00:06 <whoami-rajat> #topic roll call
14:00:14 <jungleboyj> o/
14:00:20 <rosmaita> o/
14:00:21 <simondodsley> o/
14:00:26 <nahimsouza[m]> o/
14:00:27 <felipe_rodrigues> o/
14:00:29 <thiagoalvoravel> o/
14:00:33 <caiquemello[m]> 0/
14:00:37 <zaitcev> o/
14:00:40 <MatheusAndrade[m]> o/
14:00:43 <enriquetaso> o/
14:01:13 <luizsantos[m]> o/
14:01:19 <whoami-rajat> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-bobcat-meetings
14:01:53 <eharney> hi
14:01:56 <lucasmoliveira059> \o
14:03:02 <whoami-rajat> hello
14:03:23 <keerthivasansuresh> o/
14:04:15 <whoami-rajat> always happy to see good number of people joining
14:04:20 <whoami-rajat> let's get started
14:04:24 <whoami-rajat> #topic announcements
14:04:34 <whoami-rajat> Cinder 2023.2 Bobcat Midcycle-1
14:05:04 <whoami-rajat> the first midcycle of 2023.2 cycle will be held on 02nd June
14:05:24 <whoami-rajat> on wednesday between 1400-1600 UTC (our usual meeting time + 1 hour extra)
14:05:37 <helenadantas[m]> hello
14:06:03 <whoami-rajat> I've prepared an etherpad to gather the topics, we still have a month but good to add them early since we only have 2 hours
14:06:05 <whoami-rajat> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-bobcat-midcycles
14:06:36 <jungleboyj> June 2nd is a Friday ...
14:06:58 <whoami-rajat> wow, it should be 31st may ...
14:06:59 <rosmaita> by 02 June, do you mean 31 May ?
14:07:02 * whoami-rajat checking again
14:07:13 <jungleboyj> :-)  Cool.
14:07:51 <whoami-rajat> it's correct on the release schedule but somehow in my personal notes the date is wrong
14:07:57 <whoami-rajat> thanks for correcting it jungleboyj and rosmaita
14:08:01 <whoami-rajat> it's actually 31st May
14:08:03 <whoami-rajat> #link https://releases.openstack.org/bobcat/schedule.html#b-cinder-mid-cycle-ptg-1
14:08:36 <whoami-rajat> so reiterating, we will be having our first midcycle of bobcat on 31st May (wednesday) 1400-1600 UTC
14:08:47 <jungleboyj> ++
14:08:57 <whoami-rajat> please add your topics to the etherpad
14:09:52 <whoami-rajat> next, Cinderlib 2023.1 (cycle trailing) release
14:09:58 <whoami-rajat> #link https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2023-May/033536.html
14:10:09 <whoami-rajat> there was an email from release team regarding the cycle trailing release
14:10:18 <whoami-rajat> and we've the cinderlib project which is cycle trailing
14:11:01 <whoami-rajat> i checked the open patches in cinderlib master and nothing seemed urgent or in a merge-able state so i proposed the release early
14:11:07 <whoami-rajat> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/882132
14:12:13 <whoami-rajat> if anyone has a urgent/required change in cinderlib that they want to include in 2023.1 release, they can propose it and let me know
14:12:28 <whoami-rajat> but if there are no concerns, we will go ahead with releasing cinderlib 2023.1 (Antelope)
14:13:45 <whoami-rajat> next, Stable releases
14:14:16 <whoami-rajat> we recently released all active stable branches i.e. 2023.1, Zed, Yoga and Xena (final)
14:14:28 <whoami-rajat> we also moved Xena to EM so there will be no more releases of xena
14:15:05 <whoami-rajat> for the list of projects that are released with the recent stable releases, please go through the etherpad on L#101
14:16:07 <whoami-rajat> thanks to jbernard for carrying out all the releases!
14:16:36 <jbernard> \o/
14:17:00 <zaitcev> Yeah.
14:17:14 <enriquetaso> ==
14:17:15 <enriquetaso> ++
14:17:17 <jungleboyj> ++
14:19:19 <whoami-rajat> that's all the announcements i had, anyone has anything else that the team should be aware about?
14:19:36 <rosmaita> rocky and stein were tagged EOL about an hour ago
14:19:40 <rosmaita> #link https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:cinder-eol
14:20:22 <whoami-rajat> oh yes, forgot to provide an update on that
14:20:24 <whoami-rajat> thanks rosmaita
14:21:04 <whoami-rajat> so rocky and stein branches are not active anymore for cinder so we can't backport/propose patches to those branches now
14:23:05 <whoami-rajat> i guess that's all for announcements, let's move to topics
14:23:09 <whoami-rajat> #topic Cinder-Backup very slow / inefficient when using chunked drivers, e.g. S3
14:23:39 <whoami-rajat> crohmann doesn't seem to be around ...
14:24:51 * whoami-rajat going through the topic
14:27:37 <whoami-rajat> ok, so there are multiple things here
14:28:23 <whoami-rajat> 1. chunked backup driver is slow during backup of large volumes as it processes each chunk
14:28:27 <whoami-rajat> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1918119
14:28:52 <whoami-rajat> there was an attempt to perform parallel read/write of the chunks
14:29:01 <whoami-rajat> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/779233
14:29:33 <whoami-rajat> Gorka has a comment on it saying we already have config options to do the same thing the patch is trying to do (though i haven't gone through the implementation)
14:30:05 <whoami-rajat> backup_native_threads_pool_size
14:30:08 <whoami-rajat> backup_max_operations
14:30:24 <eharney> the existing options probably parallelize across multiple backups instead of one backup?
14:30:51 <eharney> so not really the same thing
14:31:04 <whoami-rajat> that's a good question, I'm not sure but i think you're right
14:31:18 <whoami-rajat> backup_max_operations is for the number of worker processes
14:31:33 <whoami-rajat> backup_native_threads_pool_size is for native thread in a particular worker
14:32:06 <whoami-rajat> but i guess they take different backup operations and don't do parallel read/write of a single backup as eharney said
14:32:08 <zaitcev> In theory I was going to look into the performance of backup/restore, but I got sidetracked with Keystone.
14:33:52 <zaitcev> Also, people seem to assume that backup is infinitely parallel, but it's not true, because we compress a whole segment. Even if your network performance is infinite, and the back-end has millions of drives, you have to consume blocks as they are compressed.
14:34:02 <whoami-rajat> looks like backup discussions are more frequent than ever, but maybe it's from the same author
14:35:18 <whoami-rajat> yeah, backup is a combination of steps so anything during the whole operation can become a bottleneck
14:35:55 <whoami-rajat> s/anything/any step
14:36:45 <whoami-rajat> anyway, not an expert on backups
14:37:01 <whoami-rajat> the second point in this was regarding NFS backup driver
14:37:13 <whoami-rajat> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/611079
14:37:39 <simondodsley> maybe fix the merge conflict first...
14:37:52 <eharney> i haven't worked on this one in a while
14:38:03 <eharney> it fixed an issue where the c-bak service would be blocked by i/o operations iirc
14:39:04 <whoami-rajat> there is a comment on it by Christian today, https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/611079/5#message-3fc554786126198652ed152f52de89d5237d5368
14:41:28 <whoami-rajat> anyway, that's all i could discuss about this from the agenda
14:41:49 <whoami-rajat> anything else on this topic?
14:43:11 <whoami-rajat> ok, let's move to open discussion
14:43:15 <whoami-rajat> #topic open discussion
14:43:30 <simondodsley> Just another call to get some reviews done by cores
14:43:34 <whoami-rajat> we've 3 reviews in review request
14:43:56 <raghavendrat> Requesting some feedback on below patch (HPE 3PAR). Thanks.
14:43:58 <rosmaita> 4, i'm about to add another one
14:44:04 <raghavendrat> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/879836
14:45:19 <enriquetaso> Requesting some feedback on the ceph backup restore fix: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/880965 . Thanks!
14:45:34 <simondodsley> The Pure patch has been hanging around for 4 weeks. I'd really like to get this merged
14:46:12 <eharney> test-requirements bump here: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/879961   - have been trying to bump our mypy version up since March
14:49:38 <keerthivasansuresh> O 9
14:56:29 <whoami-rajat> started reviewing the pure patch, lost track of time
14:56:44 <whoami-rajat> I think that's all for today
14:56:55 <whoami-rajat> thanks everyone for joining
14:56:58 <whoami-rajat> #endmeeting